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The Devore

majinsyllusmajinsyllus Member Posts: 55 Arc User
edited September 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I was wondering, why didn't we see any Devore in the game yet?

They controlled a pretty large area of space, we do have a Devore sector but no Devore are to be seen?

It would've been a nice opportunity for a great ship and some new outfits.

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I mean who doesn't want to fly this ship?

This isn't the only major race Cryptic has forgotten. There's also the Vidiians..

I mean, you don't really have to create a whole storyline, even a Devore lockbox would be nice.

I just want that ship lol.

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  • thenoname711thenoname711 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    Well, the ship looks certainly amazing. I would love to fly one.
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  • stuart1965stuart1965 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    I think theres currently too many types of ships in this game, more needs to be done on new content and also something needs to be done about the PvE dead queues.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,905 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.
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  • majinsyllusmajinsyllus Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Yeah but we're flying in their space, shouldn't we be spammed with inspections?
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Maybe not, but I imagine that there are still species that are in conflict with the Vidiians for what they did. They also have extensive medical knowledge, even seeing them as part of the Alliance (and the possible consequences that may have for the willingness of other species to work together with us) while providing medical support would be one way to add them.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Maybe not, but I imagine that there are still species that are in conflict with the Vidiians for what they did. They also have extensive medical knowledge, even seeing them as part of the Alliance (and the possible consequences that may have for the willingness of other species to work together with us) while providing medical support would be one way to add them.
    Maybe what happened next is that the Borg assimilated the Vidiians wholesale because they were cured and had great medical knowledge?​​
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    Maybe what happened next is that the Borg assimilated the Vidiians wholesale because they were cured and had great medical knowledge?​​

    Maybe, but considering the only ones who probably have more extensive medical knowledge than the Vidiians are the Kobali, I doubt the Borg could easily assimilate them either of them.
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  • mikoto8472mikoto8472 Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    You're not the only one who wondered about the Devore, OP.

    I've always wondered why Cryptic didn't use the Devore Imperium as either an enemy (because every faction houses telepaths or some kind) or as a species to persuade to join the Alliance. I got the impression from the episode that the Devore were smart, advanced, with a large military and owned quite a chunk of territory.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    risian4 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Maybe not, but I imagine that there are still species that are in conflict with the Vidiians for what they did. They also have extensive medical knowledge, even seeing them as part of the Alliance (and the possible consequences that may have for the willingness of other species to work together with us) while providing medical support would be one way to add them.
    Maybe what happened next is that the Borg assimilated the Vidiians wholesale because they were cured and had great medical knowledge?​​

    Most of it wouldn't be applicable to the Borg. The Borg regenerate with nanotechnology, they don't heal with medicine. Though on second thought I can think of an area where the Borg might find it useful. Maybe the Vidiians' knowledge specifically of immunology was how the Borg learned to assimilate Undine in the Undine/Borg arc in-game.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Maybe the Vaadwaar killed them all as they did the Krenium.​​
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,521 Arc User
    Even a new season with focus on exploration needs a bad guy. Perhaps the Devore are the DQ bad guys since we borg and vaadwaur are to easy to dispose off.

    The refractive shielding, essentially a passive MES, sounds interesting.​​
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    That ships looks pretty nice, wouldn't mind seeing that added in game one but, either as an Enemy or something for my KDF Privateers to repossess as spoils of war.
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    starswordc wrote: »
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    risian4 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Maybe not, but I imagine that there are still species that are in conflict with the Vidiians for what they did. They also have extensive medical knowledge, even seeing them as part of the Alliance (and the possible consequences that may have for the willingness of other species to work together with us) while providing medical support would be one way to add them.
    Maybe what happened next is that the Borg assimilated the Vidiians wholesale because they were cured and had great medical knowledge?​​

    Most of it wouldn't be applicable to the Borg. The Borg regenerate with nanotechnology, they don't heal with medicine. Though on second thought I can think of an area where the Borg might find it useful. Maybe the Vidiians' knowledge specifically of immunology was how the Borg learned to assimilate Undine in the Undine/Borg arc in-game.

    You..... you do realize that here, in the actual real-world, scientists and doctors are already talking about potentially using nano-machines in medical applications, right? Like, it's not just a thing in sci-fi? I mean, nanotechnology is often spoken about in medical fields, is the thing. I mean, the Borg are a "race" of cyborgs, a field of research that specifically deals with limb replacement and/or augmentation. How is that somehow not related to various medical fields?
    Plus, the Borg basically deal with any knowledge, not just nanotechnology. The nano-tech is their most infamous tool, both for assimilation and repair, but both in the shows and in STO itself, it's been shown it can be countered with the proper kind of technology. I mean, in-game example: the Immunosupport Nanite Injector, a hypospray full of specially tailored anti-Borg nano-machines.
    This kind of tech probably isn't beyond the Vidiians either, and I suspect the Voth might have similar cybernetic enhancements implanted that can counter Borg assimilation nanites.
    And lest we forget, Vidiian medical technology was absolutely bonkers. They had a gadget that was a handheld medical scanner, stun device, and pinpoint transporter-aided surgical tool. The Doctor flat-out admitted that the Federation could not reproduce such a device at that time. Who knows what a proper Vidiian medical facility was equipped with, if that's what a basic organ harvester was toting?
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    majinsyllus wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Yeah but we're flying in their space, shouldn't we be spammed with inspections?

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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    risian4 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Maybe not, but I imagine that there are still species that are in conflict with the Vidiians for what they did. They also have extensive medical knowledge, even seeing them as part of the Alliance (and the possible consequences that may have for the willingness of other species to work together with us) while providing medical support would be one way to add them.
    Maybe what happened next is that the Borg assimilated the Vidiians wholesale because they were cured and had great medical knowledge?​​

    Most of it wouldn't be applicable to the Borg. The Borg regenerate with nanotechnology, they don't heal with medicine. Though on second thought I can think of an area where the Borg might find it useful. Maybe the Vidiians' knowledge specifically of immunology was how the Borg learned to assimilate Undine in the Undine/Borg arc in-game.

    You..... you do realize that here, in the actual real-world, scientists and doctors are already talking about potentially using nano-machines in medical applications, right? Like, it's not just a thing in sci-fi? I mean, nanotechnology is often spoken about in medical fields, is the thing. I mean, the Borg are a "race" of cyborgs, a field of research that specifically deals with limb replacement and/or augmentation. How is that somehow not related to various medical fields?
    Plus, the Borg basically deal with any knowledge, not just nanotechnology. The nano-tech is their most infamous tool, both for assimilation and repair, but both in the shows and in STO itself, it's been shown it can be countered with the proper kind of technology. I mean, in-game example: the Immunosupport Nanite Injector, a hypospray full of specially tailored anti-Borg nano-machines.
    This kind of tech probably isn't beyond the Vidiians either, and I suspect the Voth might have similar cybernetic enhancements implanted that can counter Borg assimilation nanites.
    And lest we forget, Vidiian medical technology was absolutely bonkers. They had a gadget that was a handheld medical scanner, stun device, and pinpoint transporter-aided surgical tool. The Doctor flat-out admitted that the Federation could not reproduce such a device at that time. Who knows what a proper Vidiian medical facility was equipped with, if that's what a basic organ harvester was toting?

    Reread what I said, please? I said there is little of practical use the Borg would gain from the Vidiians, not that the Vidiians could learn little from the Borg. The Borg don't operate like a normal species. Drones are just interchangeable parts to be used or discarded. Now, they'll use different species for different purposes--Talaxians apparently make better tactical drones due to their bone structure--but they don't care enough about individuals to practice medicine on them: their standard procedure in the event of cyber- or bioattack is to sever the affected drones from the Collective.
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    risian4 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.

    Maybe not, but I imagine that there are still species that are in conflict with the Vidiians for what they did. They also have extensive medical knowledge, even seeing them as part of the Alliance (and the possible consequences that may have for the willingness of other species to work together with us) while providing medical support would be one way to add them.
    Maybe what happened next is that the Borg assimilated the Vidiians wholesale because they were cured and had great medical knowledge?​​

    Most of it wouldn't be applicable to the Borg. The Borg regenerate with nanotechnology, they don't heal with medicine. Though on second thought I can think of an area where the Borg might find it useful. Maybe the Vidiians' knowledge specifically of immunology was how the Borg learned to assimilate Undine in the Undine/Borg arc in-game.

    You..... you do realize that here, in the actual real-world, scientists and doctors are already talking about potentially using nano-machines in medical applications, right? Like, it's not just a thing in sci-fi? I mean, nanotechnology is often spoken about in medical fields, is the thing. I mean, the Borg are a "race" of cyborgs, a field of research that specifically deals with limb replacement and/or augmentation. How is that somehow not related to various medical fields?
    Plus, the Borg basically deal with any knowledge, not just nanotechnology. The nano-tech is their most infamous tool, both for assimilation and repair, but both in the shows and in STO itself, it's been shown it can be countered with the proper kind of technology. I mean, in-game example: the Immunosupport Nanite Injector, a hypospray full of specially tailored anti-Borg nano-machines.
    This kind of tech probably isn't beyond the Vidiians either, and I suspect the Voth might have similar cybernetic enhancements implanted that can counter Borg assimilation nanites.
    And lest we forget, Vidiian medical technology was absolutely bonkers. They had a gadget that was a handheld medical scanner, stun device, and pinpoint transporter-aided surgical tool. The Doctor flat-out admitted that the Federation could not reproduce such a device at that time. Who knows what a proper Vidiian medical facility was equipped with, if that's what a basic organ harvester was toting?

    Reread what I said, please? I said there is little of practical use the Borg would gain from the Vidiians, not that the Vidiians could learn little from the Borg. The Borg don't operate like a normal species. Drones are just interchangeable parts to be used or discarded. Now, they'll use different species for different purposes--Talaxians apparently make better tactical drones due to their bone structure--but they don't care enough about individuals to practice medicine on them: their standard procedure in the event of cyber- or bioattack is to sever the affected drones from the Collective.

    And you missed the point of what I was getting at: that cybernetics are almost inherently tied to medicine.
    Plus, I'm pretty sure that if the Borg came under some kind of concerted bio-attack effort, they'd definitely whip up some kind of medical procedure to inoculate themselves, lest they risk simply losing scores of drones to the "cut off" method you described (a method that they only really use in extreme circumstances, as it's been shown that they do attempt to recover individual drones before fully discontinuing and scuttling them).
    Plus, I'm sure there's plenty they could gain from the Vidiians, both from knowledge and technology. Imagine if the Borg could simply point a transporter beam at a targeted entity and transport a dosage of assimilation nanites directly into their body.
    They could also probably utilize the knowledge the Vidiians have to improve drone physiology and resilience to diseases and the like.
    The Borg may be a very different race, but they are still a race and they do have these kinds of concerns.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    Didn't the Vaadwaur conquer them at some point?
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Didn't the Vaadwaur conquer them at some point?

    No, that was the Krenim and the B'omar.
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    If anything, I want the next big sto enemy to be the Kobali, just so we can finally wipe those body snatchers off the face of the universe​​
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    starswordc wrote: »
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    Didn't the Vaadwaur conquer them at some point?

    No, that was the Krenim and the B'omar.

    They still could have got the Devore as well. They don't need to give a list.​​
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,521 Arc User
    burstorion wrote: »
    If anything, I want the next big sto enemy to be the Kobali, just so we can finally wipe those body snatchers off the face of the universe

    Been there, done that and the joke has grown old by now.​​
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  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    I wouldn't mind seeing that ship added for players to fly.
    It's beautiful and mean lookin.
    Did the Devore cloak ? I can't remember.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,521 Arc User
    vengefuldjinn wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind seeing that ship added for players to fly.
    It's beautiful and mean lookin.
    Did the Devore cloak ? I can't remember.

    Refractive shielding. Think Mask Energy Signature.​​
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  • thenoname711thenoname711 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    Yes, refractive shielding. From the Memory alpha page:
    Refractive shielding was a deflector shield stealth technology used by the Devore Imperium of the Delta Quadrant, which allowed a vessel to remain invisible to conventional sensors unless compensated for.
    Not too hard to turn it into cloaking device to promote sales of the ship, is it? ;)
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  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 832 Arc User
    I think the Devore appeared in only one episode (but outstanding one) and they are delta clones of the Romulans, so nothing is interesting except their ship, which looks a bit romulanish too. If we receive some nihydron ship, we can expecting devore ship in any next lock-box. If you watch carefully STO rumours , you're able to reveal who will be the new main enemy of season 11th
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    That is one nice looking ship. That's what I wish the atrox looked like
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    theanothername wrote: »
    majinsyllus wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Well the Devore are/were xenophobic...and the Vidiians...supposedly the Think Tank cured the phage so no reason for all those angry organ thieves be be flying around the Quadrant.
    Yeah but we're flying in their space, shouldn't we be spammed with inspections?
    Devore "This is Devore space, does any of your thousands of heavily armed warships host telepaths?"
    telepathic KDF Alien char: "yeah, totally"
    Devore "...Ok" *warps far far away*
    *[Eridian flies through Devore space on way to shoot Vaadwaur*

    Devore patrol ship captain: Lower your shields and prepare to be inspected. We have reason to believe you may be harboring telepaths.

    Eridian *looks at Devore with angry glare*: You love telepaths and wish to make them safe from the threat of the Devore imperium.

    Devore captain: Uh... what was I talking about?

    Eridian: You were talking about how you don't have time to talk to me because you sighted a Devore Warship 3 ly from here.

    Devore captain: Yes, of course, I really should just erase this meeting from my log. I can't let my superiors know I've been wasting time when I should be fighting the Devore. *closes comm channel and warps away*

    *Eridian resumes course towards Vaadwaur space*
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