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thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
In a recent interview with the G&T Show at vegas, Geko said:

"It's a very DS9 themed expansion"

To be clear, he was talking about Season 11 and the new content and story. However, he also knows about things that are in the works and haven't been announced yet. And he has already confirmed in one of his P1 interviews this year that there *will* be a new expansion(though gave no ETA or details).

Getting to the point, since Delta Rising was obviously a Voyager themed expansion, will the next expansion be DS9 themed? And if so, will this lead into a Cardassian or Dominion faction?


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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    I think personal starbases may be the next big thing going forward. Combination personal holding/cosmetics etc.

    My wacky prediction is that Expansion 3 will build on this further with starbase combat (ie. starbases that equip ship weapons).

    Cardassians will choose one of the existing alignments and mostly draw from existing ships but will get Nors as a unique Starbase type. Maybe a lockbox to have a Nor as an existing faction.

    My prediction is a very light form of territory control, personal starbases, and a story themed around occupation with Cardassians acting as our consultants in that area. Maybe an expansion based largely around a very tight region of space. Like a solar system.
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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    Personally I'm looking forward to it, providing it doesn't follow the trend DR did. And DS9 has been long over due for a revamp. If ESD's revamp is anything to go by, we're in for a treat. But hopefully some of the other hubs especially those for the KDF will also be in line for a revamp.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I'd play the hell out of any DS9 content. I could't care less about playable Cardassians or Dominion, they are in no way comparable to Klingons or Romulans in terms of development from the shows.

    DS9 revamp would make me flutter though, get on it Taco :open_mouth:.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I got the impression from the panel that there are no current plans for a new faction, but that it might be possible maybe in 2 years or so. In other words Cardassians are not coming with the DS9/mirror stuff.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    I got the impression from the panel that there are no current plans for a new faction, but that it might be possible maybe in 2 years or so. In other words Cardassians are not coming with the DS9/mirror stuff.

    Sorry if you misunderstood, but I was *not* suggesting a Card/Dom faction for Season 11, but rather for expansion 3.

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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,168 Arc User
    DS9 Themed?

    War?

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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    DS9 Themed?

    War?

    "Just when they thought it was time to explore the final frontier...ANOTHER WAR!!!"

    :|

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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I got the impression from the panel that there are no current plans for a new faction, but that it might be possible maybe in 2 years or so. In other words Cardassians are not coming with the DS9/mirror stuff.

    Sorry if you misunderstood, but I was *not* suggesting a Card/Dom faction for Season 11, but rather for expansion 3.

    I guess it would depend how far off the expansion will be. The thing is the logical place to add Cardassians would be the mirror content and the DS9 area revamp. I guess this could pave the way for a Gamma Quadrant Dominion faction later.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,168 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    DS9 Themed?

    War?

    "Just when they thought it was time to explore the final frontier...ANOTHER WAR!!!"

    :|

    The Trailer clearly shows Starfleet wanting to return to "exploration" but then we have people with guns and the Tholians doing pew pew things in the Badlands.

    So this will be S11 ... Tholians do something in the Badlands... they then TRIBBLE up the wormhole near DS9 so it goes to the mirror universe and not the Gamma Quad... Then boom... before you know it... The Terran Empire is invading slaughtering everything in sight...

    L'Miren, T'Ket and M'Tara will arrive and be all "Oh? now you want to create the invasion theme? then about a month later we'll have several people asking for an Iconian Arc revamp before the Cardassian Arc.



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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Wasn't there, earlier this year, a mention that Cryptic had or was also considering a Mirror Universe faction of some sort? Technically that could also fall under the category of 'DS9-themed', although I agree that it is probably likely there won't be another faction in 2016.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,902 Arc User
    First where would be the logic in a Dominion faction...they've given away just about every Dominion ship baring the Battle Cruiser...they showed no remorse in that...they gave away 1 Cardassian ship and they have shown remorse in doing that.

    Second...unless they drastically change things new factions will be *fractions* as people like to put it...how do you see the Dominion being a fraction?
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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
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    lianthelia wrote: »
    Second...unless they drastically change things new factions will be *fractions* as people like to put it...how do you see the Dominion being a fraction?
    Easily. 'New approach' to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants with Odo's inspiration (and fears of the Iconians and other such forces), sending liaisons to serve with the Klingons and Starfleet to learn more about them and what is going on (and build contacts in case an alliance is useful to protect the Link) without having to commit more than a few ships and commanders to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants. The Dominion proper is not a fraction, but the Dominion outside the Gamma Quadrant, that could work.
    EDIT: To be entirely clear I still think a Dominion faction won't happen for the first reason you mention. That's a much more insurmountable obstacle than the fraction thing.
  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    thay8472 wrote: »
    thay8472 wrote: »
    DS9 Themed?

    War?

    "Just when they thought it was time to explore the final frontier...ANOTHER WAR!!!"

    :|

    The Trailer clearly shows Starfleet wanting to return to "exploration" but then we have people with guns and the Tholians doing pew pew things in the Badlands.

    So this will be S11 ... Tholians do something in the Badlands... they then TRIBBLE up the wormhole near DS9 so it goes to the mirror universe and not the Gamma Quad... Then boom... before you know it... The Terran Empire is invading slaughtering everything in sight...

    L'Miren, T'Ket and M'Tara will arrive and be all "Oh? now you want to create the invasion theme? then about a month later we'll have several people asking for an Iconian Arc revamp before the Cardassian Arc.



    I want an Iconian Arc revamp now :D
  • uryenserellonturyenserellont Member Posts: 858 Arc User
    DS9, gamma quadrant, dominion, cardassia, Odo and changelings, Miles O'Brien, Kira Nerys, Ezri Dax, Leeta (oh Leeta...), Rom, maybe Bashir or even Sisko...I would love to see any of that.

    I don't expect to see many actors though. I'm sure they're very expensive and/or not interested. If we got Rene Auberjonois or Colm Meaney though I'd flip out. They were my favorites.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,072 Community Moderator
    sqwished wrote: »
    Personally I'm looking forward to it, providing it doesn't follow the trend DR did. And DS9 has been long over due for a revamp. If ESD's revamp is anything to go by, we're in for a treat. But hopefully some of the other hubs especially those for the KDF will also be in line for a revamp.

    I had actually hoped for a First City revamp after the Herald attack on Qo'nos, much like ESD's revamp after the Undine attack.
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  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    In a recent interview with the G&T Show at vegas, Geko said:

    "It's a very DS9 themed expansion"

    To be clear, he was talking about Season 11 and the new content and story. However, he also knows about things that are in the works and haven't been announced yet. And he has already confirmed in one of his P1 interviews this year that there *will* be a new expansion(though gave no ETA or details).

    Getting to the point, since Delta Rising was obviously a Voyager themed expansion, will the next expansion be DS9 themed? And if so, will this lead into a Cardassian or Dominion faction?
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  • dakkalvar1dakkalvar1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    I hope so. DS9 was probably the best Star Trek Series, followed by TOS or Enterprise.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Easily. 'New approach' to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants with Odo's inspiration (and fears of the Iconians and other such forces), sending liaisons to serve with the Klingons and Starfleet to learn more about them and what is going on (and build contacts in case an alliance is useful to protect the Link) without having to commit more than a few ships and commanders to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants. The Dominion proper is not a fraction, but the Dominion outside the Gamma Quadrant, that could work.

    Id have to agree with this, its quite similar to my own ideas on it... However if they were planning on doing a Dominion fraction I really dont see them having done the new JHSS and selling/giving that away. Its been a while since the end of the Dominion war... look how many new ships the feds/kdf/and even roms have. Why does no one thing the Dominion has a whole new roster of vessels? They're (potentially)larger than the UFP and have a strong central, militaristic, authority... Your old Jem Dreadnaught could be an obsolete design being phased out of existence in core Dominion space. As for them being seen in the Cardi arc, well I wouldn't show the Alpha/Beta quadrants my new ships either, send envoys in older stuff, let them think the Dominion is stagnant.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,902 Arc User
    lordinsane wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Second...unless they drastically change things new factions will be *fractions* as people like to put it...how do you see the Dominion being a fraction?
    Easily. 'New approach' to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants with Odo's inspiration (and fears of the Iconians and other such forces), sending liaisons to serve with the Klingons and Starfleet to learn more about them and what is going on (and build contacts in case an alliance is useful to protect the Link) without having to commit more than a few ships and commanders to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants. The Dominion proper is not a fraction, but the Dominion outside the Gamma Quadrant, that could work.
    EDIT: To be entirely clear I still think a Dominion faction won't happen for the first reason you mention. That's a much more insurmountable obstacle than the fraction thing.

    Yeah...but they've shown they don't have a care in the world about the Iconians...the Dominion is a powerful force...they would probably control more than half of the known galaxy if it wasn't for the Wormhole.

    We've proven we can beat them, wounded one Iconian and killed another...and we don't have a disposable bio-engineered fighting force at our beck and call.

    The Iconians seem like they're masters at underestimating...with their fear of the Dominion and not even daring a attack till they conquered the Alpha and Beta powers...who knows if even then they would be able to defeat the mighty Dominion.

    I think STO has a future in the Gamma Quadrant...but if we're allies with the Dominion what else would there be? Unless Cryptic pulls out some hidden Empire in the Gamma Quadrant that not even the Dominion knew about I can't see there being a whole lot to the Gamma side.

    I'm a believer in the only facts that Starfleet and the Empires won over the Dominion was the fact of the wormhole...imagine how much more terrifying the Dominion would be with access to unlimited resources? Well that and the fact the Cardassians turned on them in a crucial battle.

    I think STO has the potential...note I said potential for a 2nd Dominion war.
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  • koraheaglecrykoraheaglecry Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    I think its a safe bet that this will be a Defiant themed Expansion. They had so much success with the Voyager theme I dont think they have much of a choice. Players are clamoring for a Defiant T6 version and while they could of cashed in on that demand months ago like the Galaxy T6 theyve made an obvious effort to avoid it with Pilot Ships, the most likely Specialization for a Defiant.

    As for a Cardassian/Dominion mini-faction. If Cardassians are introduced I highly doubt that they will be involved with the Dominion atleast in any form of an alliance, maybe going head to head. From the lore we're told that the Cardassians are still suffering from the aftermath of the bombardment of Cardassia. And many of the people that were alive during that time period are now leading the faction. So its unlikely that the Cardassians would ally themselves with the very group that tried to commit genocide on them and their homeworld.

    I personally hope that the Cardassians dont become another mini-faction. If the Klingons and Romulans are proof of anything. Its that Cryptic doesnt have the interest or the know how to implement them without abandoning them half way through the effort. The last thing this game needs is another half-***ed mini-faction that is forced to join one side or another. Nevermind the fact that those players will be subject to storylines like the Devidian, Breen, Borg, Voth, Vaadwaur and Iconian Arcs that will seem disconjointed to them since their faction was only a twinkle in Gekos eye when they were introduced.

    I suspect that the Cardassian expansion will likely see a move into the Gamma Quadrant with some sort of threat from the Dominion being exposed on Deep Space Nine. Remember that there was a bit of foreshadowing by one of the Vorta during the Cardassian Arc that indicated that the Dominion werent idly sitting around on the other side of the wormhole and that they were closely watching us. If the Dominion was to make another move on the Alpha and Beta Quadrants post Iconian War is the best time to do it. The Alliance is severely weakened and could possibly be facing a lack of cohesion between the groups once the Iconian threat is removed. The Klingons could possibly want to return to conquering and raiding....It can be argued that the war with the Federation might have been 'needless' in the players eyes, for the KDF it was very successful. Their forces, prior to the Iconian Arc, was probably never larger and the Klingons influence was/is widespread. The Republic may continue to be friendly with the Federation on the grounds of continuing to receive aid but with the Iconians out of the way they may turn their attention to the remaining Romulan Star Empire as the prize. Atleast this is the way I would write the story for the move into the Gamma Quadrant. A preemptive strike lead by the heroes of the three, maybe four, factions.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    First where would be the logic in a Dominion faction...they've given away just about every Dominion ship baring the Battle Cruiser...they showed no remorse in that...they gave away 1 Cardassian ship and they have shown remorse in doing that.

    Second...unless they drastically change things new factions will be *fractions* as people like to put it...how do you see the Dominion being a fraction?

    I think the "playable species" route could be a better one though if it were me, I'd give the Cardassians to the Federation and the Jem'Hadar to the KDF.

    But I'd also want a re-species token given that my alien-Cardassian is my main and I don't want to lose the investment I've made in him.

    Failing that, give me the opportunity to purchase (grind) Cardassian armor for him off the Exchange. (Proper armor, not the ostentatious, impractical True Way version.)

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  • typhoncaltyphoncal Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    My prediction is a very light form of territory control, personal starbases, and a story themed around occupation with Cardassians acting as our consultants in that area. Maybe an expansion based largely around a very tight region of space. Like a solar system.

    Id certainly love to see something along the lines of a territory system of some sorts, it would certainly bring in alot of elements in the game, specifically the starbase systems. Check out for example, Starfleet Command III, it had a great territory system, which we had campaigns that lasted months upon months. As well, i think it could be balanced well so it doesnt take away from the game and plays are larger role in the storyline itself. As for the Cardassians, i really would like them to expand into that area, allow the federation to play a larger role of per se rebuilding Cardassia.
    lordinsane wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    EDIT: To be entirely clear I still think a Dominion faction won't happen for the first reason you mention. That's a much more insurmountable obstacle than the fraction thing.

    Id certainly love to see if they can manage it well, lead into something that has to do with the Dominion, Cardassians and Vorta would be interesting if they take it in the direction that the Jem'Hadr settled on a world within the Cardassian space, separate from that of the Gama Quadrant Jem'hadr?
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Id have to agree with this, its quite similar to my own ideas on it... However if they were planning on doing a Dominion fraction I really dont see them having done the new JHSS and selling/giving that away. Its been a while since the end of the Dominion war... look how many new ships the feds/kdf/and even roms have. Why does no one thing the Dominion has a whole new roster of vessels? They're (potentially)larger than the UFP and have a strong central, militaristic, authority... Your old Jem Dreadnaught could be an obsolete design being phased out of existence in core Dominion space. As for them being seen in the Cardi arc, well I wouldn't show the Alpha/Beta quadrants my new ships either, send envoys in older stuff, let them think the Dominion is stagnant.


    However, like you stated it is what 20-30yrs later, what is to say they havent created newer ships granted they were only a slave race with the Vorta being the real brains behind everything? Id really like to see how they could really turn this into something really done well, they have done some awesome work on revamping other areas, it is past time that Cardassian area gets an overhaul, including DS9.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I think the T6 Defiant was deliberately delayed, with them releasing the T6 Escort Carriers first specifically so that the T6 Defiant would be released with the new DS9 influenced season. So those wondering why the awaited T6 Defiant release kept getting put off, now you know why.

    DS9 was my favour series of Star Trek, so I'm looking forward to this, plus the Admiralty System sounds fun.
  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    The Iconians seem like they're masters at underestimating...with their fear of the Dominion and not even daring a attack till they conquered the Alpha and Beta powers...who knows if even then they would be able to defeat the mighty Dominion.
    .

    The Dominion and the Iconians do share a lot of similarities in their approach to things--both are ruled by self-proclaimed "gods" who are bent on galactic domination of "lesser" races, and both depend on bio-engineered servant races to do most of their work.
  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    I am already happy if we get a remastered Cardassian / Dominion / True Way story arc by the release of Season 11 and that's prully what Geko meant by "DS9 Themed". However, it could also mean that Avery Brooks will voice Captain Sisko for the remastered "Q" episode which might jump from the Borg story arc into the DS9 story arc after all.

    And of course it could mean that we get a fourth playable faction (similar to the Remulan Republic) which can either join the FED or the KDF. That would obviously be the best of the three hints to the DS9 themed season.
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