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5 Piece Temporal set question

I posted this in the anarax timeship thread, but what's everyone's thought? Can/should those temporal set pieces be equipped now on the other ships? Can a Zahl cruiser use a Tipler Cylinder and visa versa?
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  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    Hardly think so. Probably only this ship will be able to do it, and I dont think it may even be a 5 piece set, but just a 3 set.
    I guess we'll see tomorrow.
  • cervantes3cervantes3 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    Honestly it's hardly imaginable that cryptic will put the Manheim device and the Tipler cylender on the anorax as they are not from the Krenim technology.
    Also in a more marketing view if they really wanted to put these two consoles on the ship, they would have dropped the temporal lockbox at the same time because it would incite players to buy even more keys from the store.
  • thenoname711thenoname711 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    It is already said in dev blog that Tipler cylinder/Mannheim device will be equipable on the Annorax sci dread. :)
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    *nods* but the question is do you think it should also go the other way around. I think I could go for the Zahl shield on my mobius.
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  • cervantes3cervantes3 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    After reading again the dev blog, it's mentionned that the Annorax can equip the two consoles but it's not said that both will be part of a set with te Krenim's one.
    I think it will goes like this: A set of 3 pieces with the Krenim, the Zahl and the Annorax's consoles. Another of 2 pieces with Manheim and Tipler.
    It means that Manheim and Tipler couldn't be equiped on the Zahl and the imperium warship. So the consoles from the laters and the one from Annorax couldn't be equiped on the Mobius and the Wells.

    The only mean to put a zahl shield on the Mobius will be to make a 5 pieces set, but i don't think that would happen.
  • giliongilion Member Posts: 686 Arc User
    Ya I also think that only the new Dread will be able to use the consoles and not the other ships. It would be cool to use the new consoles on the old temporal ships, but I dont think it would make sense to have all that tech on such small ships. Probably one of the reasons they allow it on the dread, its so big that it makes sense to have all those gadgets.
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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    Better have some awesome 5pc bonus to slot 5 uni consoles....
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  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    I wouldn't be surprised if the Annorax console was able to form a set with either group of consoles, or both.

    It's a Krenim ship, so getting the Krenim set makes perfect sense. It's also a kind of timeship, so getting the Temporal set also makes sense. Yes, the other timeships are from another faction. But it's not hard to imagine that temporal research might produce similar technology.

    It hardly matters to me, as I am unlikely to ever get a Wells or any other lockbox ship let alone the Annorax. I can't even keep up with the C-Store ships, let alone the lockboxes and never mind the fact I can only fly one ship at a time.
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    Manheim/tipler is a 2 piece set.
    But then there is also the Lobi store 3 piece as well, temporal Torp/chroniton dual beam bank and tachy console.
    So that is potentially a lot of set bonuses.

    Also has there ever been a space set (Deflector/2nd deflector/core/engines/shield) that could not be equipped on other ships ?
    Don't think so.
    So yeah that might be interesting.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    It is already said in dev blog that Tipler cylinder/Mannheim device will be equipable on the Annorax sci dread. :)

    Seems I missed all of that. :) The Annorax sci dread, isn't that the cheap T5 ship, though?! If so, I'm not interested.
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    It is already said in dev blog that Tipler cylinder/Mannheim device will be equipable on the Annorax sci dread. :)

    Seems I missed all of that. :) The Annorax sci dread, isn't that the cheap T5 ship, though?! If so, I'm not interested.

    no it's the ship coming in the next doff pack. it's on the same level as the bug ship, elachi dread, voth bulwark, etc.

    i.e. it will be one of the most expensive ships in the game.
  • damix4damix4 Member Posts: 609 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Seems I missed all of that. :) The Annorax sci dread, isn't that the cheap T5 ship, though?! If so, I'm not interested.
    Annorax hasn't been released yet. Maybe you meant Atrox or Apex?
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    It is already said in dev blog that Tipler cylinder/Mannheim device will be equipable on the Annorax sci dread. :)

    Seems I missed all of that. :) The Annorax sci dread, isn't that the cheap T5 ship, though?! If so, I'm not interested.

    no it's the ship coming in the next doff pack. it's on the same level as the bug ship, elachi dread, voth bulwark, etc.

    i.e. it will be one of the most expensive ships in the game.


    K, thx. :)
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    Manheim/tipler is a 2 piece set.
    But then there is also the Lobi store 3 piece as well, temporal Torp/chroniton dual beam bank and tachy console.
    So that is potentially a lot of set bonuses.

    Also has there ever been a space set (Deflector/2nd deflector/core/engines/shield) that could not be equipped on other ships ?
    Don't think so.
    So yeah that might be interesting.

    The Ancient Obelisk set. You can't get the full set bonus on every ship. Likewise quad cannons sets which are class restricted.

    I'd really like for the Annorax console to be backwards compatible with time ships.

    Now, the question I have had for some time that would be of interest here:

    Have we ever seen evidence in the Cryptic engine that an item can contribute to two different bonus sets?

    Because I think that sounds like a reasonable direction for desirable power creep's sake and one that would allow lots of interesting possibility/versatility with click consoles going forward.

    A big issue is that as more weapons/console slots open up or on certain kinds of ships, click consoles become less desirable because of the opportunity cost. One way to bypass that would be to have ability consoles contribute towards multiple set bonuses.

    So if say the Annorax counted as one item in a Krenim 3 piece set and one item in a temporal 3 piece set and you could also mix and match for 2 piece bonuses... THAT gets interesting.
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,676 Arc User
    Manheim/tipler is a 2 piece set.
    But then there is also the Lobi store 3 piece as well, temporal Torp/chroniton dual beam bank and tachy console.
    So that is potentially a lot of set bonuses.

    Also has there ever been a space set (Deflector/2nd deflector/core/engines/shield) that could not be equipped on other ships ?
    Don't think so.
    So yeah that might be interesting.

    If you're willing to count consoles too, yes. The Command Cruiser consoles can't be fitted on the Kobali Samsar, even though the Kobali console is part of that set. That seems to be the closest example if you're looking for whether the Krenim Dread's consoles could fit the Timeships or other the Krenim Lockbox ships is a probability. There's the partially unrestricted elements mixed with restricted ones all over, including the ones mentioned by stoleviathan99, as well as every low tier and high tier mixes. Anything from a lockbox cross-faction doesn't count towards a given C-Store set, so you can't use the Projected Singularity console to count as a piece of the set for the Galaxy consoles, even though both Romulan D'D and Fed Galaxy console sets have the same name and include a Molecular Cohesion Nullifier.
  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    cervantes3 wrote: »
    Honestly it's hardly imaginable that cryptic will put the Manheim device and the Tipler cylender on the anorax as they are not from the Krenim technology.
    Also in a more marketing view if they really wanted to put these two consoles on the ship, they would have dropped the temporal lockbox at the same time because it would incite players to buy even more keys from the store.

    Actually, as far as STO's plot is likely concerned, I theorize that the Krenim technology is what forms foundation of the future of the Federations temporal capabilities. So it probably all gets traced back to Krenim origins. After all temporal agents speak about scanning and monitoring time, just like the Krenim can.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Manheim/tipler is a 2 piece set.
    But then there is also the Lobi store 3 piece as well, temporal Torp/chroniton dual beam bank and tachy console.
    So that is potentially a lot of set bonuses.

    Also has there ever been a space set (Deflector/2nd deflector/core/engines/shield) that could not be equipped on other ships ?
    Don't think so.
    So yeah that might be interesting.

    The Ancient Obelisk set. You can't get the full set bonus on every ship. Likewise quad cannons sets which are class restricted.

    I'd really like for the Annorax console to be backwards compatible with time ships.

    Now, the question I have had for some time that would be of interest here:

    Have we ever seen evidence in the Cryptic engine that an item can contribute to two different bonus sets?

    Because I think that sounds like a reasonable direction for desirable power creep's sake and one that would allow lots of interesting possibility/versatility with click consoles going forward.

    A big issue is that as more weapons/console slots open up or on certain kinds of ships, click consoles become less desirable because of the opportunity cost. One way to bypass that would be to have ability consoles contribute towards multiple set bonuses.

    So if say the Annorax counted as one item in a Krenim 3 piece set and one item in a temporal 3 piece set and you could also mix and match for 2 piece bonuses... THAT gets interesting.
    We have the reverse... sets that can use either a singularity core OR a Warp Core.
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