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T6 Miranda Frigate

lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Federation Discussion
Why not rehash this old thing? It could be good!
Captain Joseph Riker, U.S.S. Odyssey==General V'Mar, U.S.S. Blackwater-A==Admiral Laura Holmes, U.S.S. Forward Unto Dawn
Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
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    deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    *gives the Vulcan stoic glare*
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    lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    *gives the Vulcan stoic glare*

    *Gives a harder Vulcan stoic glare, and uses nerve pinch*
    Captain Joseph Riker, U.S.S. Odyssey==General V'Mar, U.S.S. Blackwater-A==Admiral Laura Holmes, U.S.S. Forward Unto Dawn
    Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
    Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
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    deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    lessley00 wrote: »
    *Gives a harder Vulcan stoic glare, and uses nerve pinch*

    *mentally screams in pain but gives off a barely audible grunt as he falls to the ground*
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    lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    *mentally screams in pain but gives off a barely audible grunt as he falls to the ground*

    I win! T6 Miranda!! Must have!!
    Captain Joseph Riker, U.S.S. Odyssey==General V'Mar, U.S.S. Blackwater-A==Admiral Laura Holmes, U.S.S. Forward Unto Dawn
    Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
    Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
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    warpedcorewarpedcore Member Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Miranda as some sort of Frigate or Raider style escort is an awesome idea, and it would fit the story for the ship. It's old, out dated, and only used to pad the numbers. Put pulse phasers on her, or dual beam banks? She'd fit right in with the modern Starfleet, just... being blown up like a TIE fighter.

    Hell, they could do this too with the Excalibur and the Vesper-class ships. They aren't big hulking cruisers like the newer modern ships, but they're still spry enough to toss into the furnace.
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    lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I wouldn't mind an updated T6 Miranda. I quite like the current design and colour scheme, I would cenrtainly like to see what the design team can come up with.

    I still giggle @ the miranda train in sector space when ppl started playing their delta char
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    orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    I must admit, I'd enjoy flying around stomping Iconians in a little Miranda. :)

    However... Given Cryptic's reluctance to offer T5's of the Miranda, Connie, or (insert underappreciated ship here), and the little inconvienient truth that Cryptic is more interested in selling their own designs instead of ships we all know and love, I'm not going to expect any kind of positive response on this.

    Also, CBS might have some words on this, as I believe it was them who put the halt on T5 Mirandas and Connies... (can someone post a link confirming this?)
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    narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The Miranda class and its variations were actually seen several times in DS9 and Next Gen, more that latter than the former.

    In my opinion, a T6 Miranda/another new modern skin, would make a good platform to base a federation raider on, an analogue to the BoP, it can already load cannons, its a reasonably nimble ship and fits the relative profile. Even the USS Centaur in DS9, one of the Miranda alt skins was able to maneuver as well as the defiant in the few clips we saw of it.

    Fill it out with universal boff stations, equalize the console slots and give it a cruiser shield mod to compensate for the lack of a cloak, or stretch convention a bit and actually give it a battle cloak, Raiders don't work very well without them after all.

    Give it a pilot Lt Cmdr spec and a intel Lt (intel particularly if it were to receive a battle cloak)

    Might be a bit of a pipe dream, but for the record I'm a primarily KDF player and I have no issue with the Federation (and rommies for that matter) getting a BOP analogue. Specially with the way Cryptic have been doing releases lately.
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    adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Well considering their role in DS9 as cannon fodder, I can see an updated version serving a similar role to the T34 during WW2, quick, easy to build ships that pack a nasty punch. They would take the Defiant attitude of "guns on a warp core" to the extreme, no battlecloak, probably no cloak at all, they're not cheap.

    You could use them for planetary defence putting a couple of shipyards at each of the core worlds of each faction just to mass produce them, Voyager proved you only need a captain and the computer to control a starship which saves on crews. Or perhaps, taking it to the extreme, leave them crewless but slaved to a command ship.
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    wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Have said this before when this matter has come up - best bet for a Endgame Miranda would be for the Merian class to be introduced.

    http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Merian_class

    Designed by Mark Rademaker (the creator of the Vesta class) and features in the book series - it shares a LOT of design features with the Miranda, and if it were introduced the Miranda skin could perhaps be an option.

    make it so i would rather them spend money to get the rights from mark, like they did with the vesta than all the money they are spending on this voice acting TRIBBLE
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    hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Miranda layout built from Sovereign class parts.

    That is all.
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    thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited May 2015
    T6 Miranda would probably list for the same price point as the rest of the T6 ships. Too expensive.
    However, Making a T5U version which listed for about the same price as the rest of the T5s ought to be doable. Make the original Miranda skin and parts available as well. I wonder how long it would take to copy/paste a set of BoP files and swap out the mesh and skin.

    But as always, CBS has final say over ships which have appeared in a series or one of the films. I'll bet this is one of the reasons why there are so many ships in STO which look so different. Probably cheaper to make a brand new one from scratch than sppend the money to get CBS to approve something.
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    thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited May 2015
    I wasn't clear in my previous post. I was trying to suggest one of the reasons we may not see a T6 or even a T5 Miranda is CBS has final say. They may say no like they have with the Connie.

    Which would be a shame. Miranda is really one of the icons in a whole squadron of stars. What other Star Trek ships can say they beat Jim Kirk and 1701? I'd like to see it get a new lease on life as a repurposed ship which can do end game stuff. The precedent is already established with other ships such as the Excelsior class.
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    tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Oh, look! A dead horse. Let's beat it.
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    rarebear1rarebear1 Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    If the Miranda is going to be made into a tier 5 or 6 ship it needs to be a jack of all trades master of none. I was thinking, Universal Bridge Officer Slots all the way, with four of each console type, and maybe a secondary deflector. Plus being able to mount dual cannons, and has four weapon slots fore and aft. Base hull of maybe 40,000 Slightly more than a Science Ship, while less than a Cruiser, well one of the big modern designs anyway.
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    jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    lessley00 wrote: »
    Why not rehash this old thing? It could be good!

    Just use the T6 HEC with all parts set up like this:

    T6-Miranda.png

    Seriously... ;)
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    mjarbarmjarbar Member Posts: 2,084 Arc User
    jonathanlonehawk wrote: »
    lessley00 wrote: »
    Why not rehash this old thing? It could be good!

    Just use the T6 HEC with all parts set up like this:

    ((snip))

    Seriously... ;)

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    rarebear1rarebear1 Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    Still, I would like to have a ship that's sort of a master of none. The Klingons get the Bird of Preys they are good all rounders. However the Federation doesn't get stuff like that. I was thinking this might be a nice chance to put in some of the lesser known classes of Federation Starships. Apollo-Class, Sadin-class, Freedom-Class, Yamato-Class. Any other ideas?
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    adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    rarebear1 wrote: »
    Still, I would like to have a ship that's sort of a master of none. The Klingons get the Bird of Preys they are good all rounders. However the Federation doesn't get stuff like that.

    I'd put the Ambi up for that role with the ability to field FAW and APB along with high level sci and range of engineering powers... While it can't specialise really it can do a little of everything.
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    cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    You know, I wouldn't mind a T6 of this little ship either. But really, I just want the ability to reclaim it at T0 (or whatever).
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    jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    You know, I wouldn't mind a T6 of this little ship either. But really, I just want the ability to reclaim it at T0 (or whatever).
    You can buy it from the shipyard for ~6800 (used to be 8000) Dilithium. I think our fleet dilithium discount is reducing the price.

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    jasecurtisjasecurtis Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    jonathanlonehawk wrote: »
    lessley00 wrote: »
    Why not rehash this old thing? It could be good!

    Just use the T6 HEC with all parts set up like this:

    T6-Miranda.png

    Seriously... ;)

    Firstly, that looks awesome. Secondly, I always assumed the Akira class was a kind of 24th Century version of the Miranda. That aside, I'd love to be able to use the Miranda skin on a T6 ship. If it can be its own class instead of a skin then even better.
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    oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    lessley00 wrote: »
    Why not rehash this old thing? It could be good!


    I agree.


    It would also allow players to run Centaur and ShiKahr Class skins on potential endgame light cruisers.

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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Have said this before when this matter has come up - best bet for a Endgame Miranda would be for the Merian class to be introduced.

    http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Merian_class

    Designed by Mark Rademaker (the creator of the Vesta class) and features in the book series - it shares a LOT of design features with the Miranda, and if it were introduced the Miranda skin could perhaps be an option.

    Yes, the Merian Class is one helluva good loking ship. Always been a fan of her. They really ought to contact Rademaker for this one, his Vesta Class is one of the best looking ships in the game and it sold like cupcakes. This awesome design, paired with the fact of being a T6 Miranda and using the canon skins would sell like cupcakes as well.
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    cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    jonathanlonehawk wrote: »
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    You know, I wouldn't mind a T6 of this little ship either. But really, I just want the ability to reclaim it at T0 (or whatever).
    You can buy it from the shipyard for ~6800 (used to be 8000) Dilithium. I think our fleet dilithium discount is reducing the price.
    I tried this and cannot find it for buy. What shipyard?
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    jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    jonathanlonehawk wrote: »
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    You know, I wouldn't mind a T6 of this little ship either. But really, I just want the ability to reclaim it at T0 (or whatever).
    You can buy it from the shipyard for ~6800 (used to be 8000) Dilithium. I think our fleet dilithium discount is reducing the price.
    I tried this and cannot find it for buy. What shipyard?

    I saw it on the ESD shipyard. I'm going to assume you're a Fed... Because, well... Excelsior.

    Screenshot!
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    cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    Wow. That option is just not available to me. :'(
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    adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    Wow. That option is just not available to me. :'(

    You sure you don't already have a Miranda hidden away somewhere is a long list of unused ships?
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