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The Iconians Need to be More "Evil"
dcboy57
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The Iconian threat doesn't feel severe enough. This may because they just want to control you (like the Dominion), but not necessarily want to "consume" you (like the Borgs or the Reapers in Mass Effect).
More Iconian impacts to our life should be shown. Now I understand this takes time and may simply beyond the scope of a MMO, but please try, thank you.
More Iconian impacts to our life should be shown. Now I understand this takes time and may simply beyond the scope of a MMO, but please try, thank you.
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We need to see the "Evil of the Iconians"... that being said... now that T'Ket is incharge... I suspect we'll see nothing but planets exploding.
Maybe showing us how the Iconians order Elachis to assimilate? Or convert us into batteries like the Matrix?
The problem is, the writting and the content related to this new "threat". We will never be able to see how the heralds truly are because this doesnt feel like a war. Not starship fights anywhere, no red alerts, no starfleet and allies trying to survive in all the galaxy corners, just 1 episode and boom, everything is settled. Really dissapointing and.. well, anyways, expected.
While that is true (according to zeroniusrex), I have to wonder if T'Ket hasn't been taking steroids for the past 200k years ...
He sounds like a dude to me, but that's my opinion. We will probably never know for sure, unless he takes his energy pants off to satisfy our curiosity .
We dont have any proof of that. T'Ket seems a pure male for me lol. I mean unless the voice tone is not related to gender anymore because they dont have vocal cords.. or something.. who knows? who cares? lol.
They had 200,000 years and there are still only 12 of them. Either they are asexual (or at least sterile) or they all have the same gender and they lost all representatives of the other gender.
zeroniusrex said "They're all ladies" in a Reddit post.
Trans persons are people, not punchlines.
That or the Heralds were the male Iconians before the fall of the empire :O
In first place, nobody knows how many "Iconians" are left.
I am going to assume you were talking about the Heralds, i dont know if you realize that not only T'ket and the other "superior" guys are heralds, all the soldiers and the other ones are.. so 12?? lol, i dont think so when they keep poping up.. unless i missed something really important in any episode that explains all of this.
There were 12 Iconians in the cutscene during.. "Time in a bottle" ... they had their cult meeting then decided to go back to w/e they were doing.
Had to get back to the gym after the meeting.
They want to be beach ready for the invasion if Risa.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Which is kinda funny when you consider that up until now, they didn't know if they could be injured or die. Or that the bombardment of Iconia may have posed no mortal threat to them. Ie. if they didn't think they could die then blowing up a planet underneath them probably wouldn't have seemed like something that could kill them. It'd be more like burning down somebody's house when they're not home or hurting their pets.
a) those are not iconians. Those are "heralds". We can assume the iconians are "the other" or some coallition like the founders or something like that and the heralds are a member of that watever it is.
b) In the cutscene you see the "bosses" but they are heralds, like the soldiers you fight along all the mission. Heralds is supossed to be the name of the species, not the name of a gang
Where did you get those ideas from?
Stupid sexy iconians
And where did you get the idea that those you say are iconians?? precisely in all this time cryptic never named any of the heralds as iconians for some reason, and we have seen already a mention to "the other". In fact, the iconian technology we saw until now has nothing to do with the technology we see about the Heralds.
They are not like Reapers from ME or some other overpowered enemy force from any other franchise - this comparison is plainly wrong.
(And this is yet another reason, why the latest story episode makes no sense - it directly contradicts the previous storyline).
The Preserver dude in... "Blood of the ancients" identifies M'Tara as an Iconian... L'Miren, T'Ket and the other nine mutant glow worms look like M'Tara... so Iconians!
Cult Meeting:
42:33
Their servitor races doing the bidding of the Iconians. The Elachi kidnapping Romulans and turning them into Mushrooms / Space Fungi / Elachi. The Vaadwaur causing tremendous trouble in the Delta Quadrant, attacking the Kobali (that wasn't a bad idea, too bad they failed), and bringing the Krenim to the edge of extinction. AGAIN.
Do not forget it was Iconian influence that deceived Species 8472 into attacking the Alpha & Beta Quadrant powers. Species 8472's infiltration (Federation were nitwits against infiltration. AGAIN) caused a lot of destabilization and their actual attacks were devastating before the Iconian plot was exposed.
The actual Herald attacks? On New Romulus, burning lots of poor Epohhs. Think of what the Epohh Lady must be feeling as Epohhs were running around on fire! There's also the attack on Qo'nos, but I think the Klingons kind of enjoyed that. Why travel across the galaxy looking for battle when the enemy decided to show up at home? Exciting times...
What I have grief with is the handling of the war itself. It doesn't feel like one. The map is static, nothing changes, everything remains the same. That's a trap of course with the Themepark style and instance heavy ways. But past conflicts were the same. The worst handled was the Federation-Klingon War.
Lots of FE's were made concerning the Iconians, building up and leading into them, and I thought that was handled okay. But not as much concerning the Iconian War itself so far, and Cryptic said a while ago that this wasn't going to be protracted.
Edit: There's still unanswered questions. For one, exactly what will be the fruition of Sela's diplomatic trip and her many allusions that she was speaking with...
Well, i cant remember but it must be true. Then, nothing makes sense. lol.
But about the 12, no. Again, those are iconians yes but the other guys around are iconians too. We must assume they follow a chain of command, thats all. Their genetic structure is almost the same visually speaking, so you saying that even if thats the case they are different species? lol. I mean, maybe this makes sense to you but i see things in a different way. And btw, who are "The Other?".
12.. dude... count them.. you have M'Tara, T'Ket and L'Miren in the middle talking about my beard. Then another 9 around them.
As for the "Other" I have a horrible feeling it'll turn out to be us.
I also have had that suspicion. I guess that they would not be able to tell us that as it might cause us to act differently.
The campaign, M'Tara's death, and the stuff yet to come, all to cause us to go back in time to try and prevent the Iconians from becoming dark. The question then is who would have told them to follow this path, and cause an alternate timeline where the Iconians are saved? It's a beautiful twist of fate if it happens.
The moment we start using that timeship... everything will go to hell... My fleetie is convinced the Krenim will use it for their own goals and we'll end up fighting them.
It's going to be us TRIBBLE around with Time... We'll go back in time... make peace with the Iconians... Section 31... will have their own plan... somehow Iconia, Dewa III etc will be bombed... It'll be our fault the Iconians are pissed.
Then we'll be back in 2410 going... "ah... it's our fault."