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Hazard emitters don't purge borg shield neutralizer anymore.

hakazehakaze Member Posts: 81 Media Corps
in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
did I miss a patch or is this a bug? they don't seem to purge the shield neutralizers anymore, do they not count as a hazard debuff anymore? it doesn't matter if I activate it during the neutralizer effect or if I already had the hazard emitter effect active and counting down, my shield vanish into nothingness regardless ;_;.

Can anyone confirm this? how can I best report this ? is there a record option somewhere?
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    I dont recall hazard emitters to purge shield neutralizers, ever... hazard emitters will cleanse the plasma leaks, that borg produces on your ship, for example, but it will not prevent the borg to rip out your shields. And this is happening this way since, ages ago.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    From what I've seen, HE clears the neuralizer, but the neuralizer isn't the problem; the problem is the tachyon beam spam, which neither HE, ST, nor anything else I'm aware of does.
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  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    I dont recall hazard emitters to purge shield neutralizers, ever... hazard emitters will cleanse the plasma leaks, that borg produces on your ship, for example, but it will not prevent the borg to rip out your shields. And this is happening this way since, ages ago.
    The Hazard Emitters do clear them, its not stated in the tooltip but it does


    jarvisandalfred wrote: »
    From what I've seen, HE clears the neuralizer, but the neuralizer isn't the problem; the problem is the tachyon beam spam, which neither HE, ST, nor anything else I'm aware of does.

    yea i noticed this as well, it clears the neuralizer but the problem is also, there is too much spam of that skill (the neuralizer), i remember once that I got hit with it 4 times in a row, and when you get hit with it when your haz is already active or on cd, you cant clear the other ones :/
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    jarvisandalfred wrote: »
    From what I've seen, HE clears the neuralizer, but the neuralizer isn't the problem; the problem is the tachyon beam spam, which neither HE, ST, nor anything else I'm aware of does.

    I thought the op was talking about this, since i dont have a clue about the "neuralizer" dont know even what that is. Since the tachyon revamp, a long time ago, hazard emitter never worked against those shield drainer spams.
  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ability:_Borg_Shield_Neutralizer

    :Ability: Borg Shield Neutralizer

    An incoming Shield Neutralizer projectile.
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    The Shield Neutralizer is a Borg weapon specifically designed to drain the shields of a target for assimilation. On impact, the weapon energy engulfs the enemy shields and steadily reduces their strength.

    The Shield Neutralizer is implemented as a hazard debuff, which can be removed by 24px-Hazard_Emitters_icon_%28Federation%29.png?version=f0c073b87e0a4072e0de8f1628c6ad0c
    Hazard Emitters.

    Used by
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    Unimatrix 0047 Command Ship
    Tractor Probe

    600px-Shield_Neutralizer_Target_FX.png?version=da61abab5ccd4201cec91d879e7e360b
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  • hakazehakaze Member Posts: 81 Media Corps
    shield "Neuralizer" is simply a typo of 1 letter missing due to being overly tired which due to your insistence has become way more embarrassing then it should have been :< *sits in corner and whimpers while hugging teddy*
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Oh so that thing is the borg neutralizer.. but the effect of that weapon is instant, you cant neutralize it with hazard emitters for obvious reasons.. or i am missing something?
  • hakazehakaze Member Posts: 81 Media Corps
    apparently the hazard emitters only purges a debuff once a second, which is the real problem as even spheres now use the ability on you, so you end up with 1 neutralizer purged and 3 still on you.. your shield do not like this at all :< currently the only way I can think of to compensate for it is investing a few points in intelligence as a secondary specialisation for the 10 second shield regeneration and armor rating increase when a shield facing hits zero.
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    hakaze wrote: »
    apparently the hazard emitters only purges a debuff once a second, which is the real problem as even spheres now use the ability on you, so you end up with 1 neutralizer purged and 3 still on you.. your shield do not like this at all :< currently the only way I can think of to compensate for it is investing a few points in intelligence as a secondary specialisation for the 10 second shield regeneration and armor rating increase when a shield facing hits zero.

    No, spheres use Tachyon Beam, which is a different, uncleansable power.
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  • hakazehakaze Member Posts: 81 Media Corps
    so its pretty much " max out insulators or stay the hell away from borg" eh?
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    hakaze wrote: »
    so its pretty much " max out insulators or stay the hell away from borg" eh?

    Nah, maxing power insulators has no effect either. You just need to learn how to hold and use healing abilities as fast as you can..
  • hakazehakaze Member Posts: 81 Media Corps
    but the description in the wiki says this "This skill grants resistance to enemy attacks which attempt to drain your shields or power from subsystems. For example, attacks from Tachyon Beam will drain less energy from your shields, and attacks from Energy Siphon will drain less power from your ship subsystem power levels. " and This is primarily a PvP oriented skill, but can be situationally useful in PvE: even just having three points into the skill can considerably reduce the effectiveness of Borg Shield Neutralizers." is that out of date??
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  • iusassetiusasset Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    hakaze wrote: »
    but the description in the wiki says this "This skill grants resistance to enemy attacks which attempt to drain your shields or power from subsystems. For example, attacks from Tachyon Beam will drain less energy from your shields, and attacks from Energy Siphon will drain less power from your ship subsystem power levels. " and This is primarily a PvP oriented skill, but can be situationally useful in PvE: even just having three points into the skill can considerably reduce the effectiveness of Borg Shield Neutralizers." is that out of date??

    The wiki is very much out of date. Tachyon Beam was buffed a few months ago, and thanks to the NPC multipliers, the ability is so effective that even heavy investment in Power Insulators doesn't do much to stave off the drain in advanced and (especially) elite content.


  • hakazehakaze Member Posts: 81 Media Corps
    edited July 2015
    so the player version is still useless against npcs because of multipliers while their version is 10-20 times as effective as it should be?... yay :T so shifting around a little bit of skill points to get full insulator isn't worth the reset token, got it :<
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    jarvisandalfred wrote: »
    hakaze wrote: »
    apparently the hazard emitters only purges a debuff once a second, which is the real problem as even spheres now use the ability on you, so you end up with 1 neutralizer purged and 3 still on you.. your shield do not like this at all :< currently the only way I can think of to compensate for it is investing a few points in intelligence as a secondary specialisation for the 10 second shield regeneration and armor rating increase when a shield facing hits zero.

    No, spheres use Tachyon Beam, which is a different, uncleansable power.

    Actually, Tachyon Beam is "cleansed" with Photonic Shockwave.​​
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Well, i did several borg red alerts and i DID notice that my hazard emmiters actually cleanse the borg neutralizer. I mean, once the borg hit me, i click on hazard emitters and the effect goes away and i have my shields back again (at minimum power but they are there). So, maybe it is a random bug?
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    majortiraomega wrote: »
    jarvisandalfred wrote: »
    hakaze wrote: »
    apparently the hazard emitters only purges a debuff once a second, which is the real problem as even spheres now use the ability on you, so you end up with 1 neutralizer purged and 3 still on you.. your shield do not like this at all :< currently the only way I can think of to compensate for it is investing a few points in intelligence as a secondary specialisation for the 10 second shield regeneration and armor rating increase when a shield facing hits zero.

    No, spheres use Tachyon Beam, which is a different, uncleansable power.

    Actually, Tachyon Beam is "cleansed" with Photonic Shockwave.​​

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