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fleet expansion participation decline likely to continue.

robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
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The new reasearch fleet project and fleet armada options seem doomed for failure. The crafting dilithium requirements to get to level 14 gold ground and space gear for all main and alts, away teams, and primary ship gear appears to take years to complete at current refining rate of 8000 dilthium per day. Using fleet level 12 ultra rare as a starting point is a good shortcut, but why no fleet level 14 ultra rare available? ( BUYING YEN WITH REAL MONEY IS NOT AN OPTION FOR THIS POST AS IT MAKES UNLIMITED EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ). The refined dilithium requirement to BUILD a fleet project only lets you purchase a fleet item which must then be upgraded with MORE refined dilithium to level 14 gold. Fleet level 12 ultra rare used to be the highest level available in the game and fleet members dumped in untold refined dilithium into fleet projects to get this ground and space gear. If non-fleet members can upgrade anything to level 14 gold now, why should anyone dump their limited refined dilithum into new fleet projects?

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,565 Community Moderator
    Shiny objects that aren't available anywhere else.
    For example, Yellowstone Runabouts, Fleet consoles, and Fleet Ships.

    14 Gold is nice, but NOT required to succeed. My main has at best Mk 14 purple Phased Biomatter and a Mk 14 UV Particle Emission Plasma Torp. Works just fine for me. If I want to bump them up in quality I'll have to invest in it. But I'm not in a hurry. And who knows... maybe the new Research Lab will have some nice new shiny that will be very useful.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    ohyes, there will be many new shinies. :D
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  • primar13primar13 Member Posts: 1,896 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2015
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

    Oh wait?

    I get along just fine with all my Fleet-Level Mark 12 Gear... I go and pew pew to my hearts content, with all my friends who have been playing this game with me for many years...

    rattler2 wrote: »
    SNIP
    And who knows... maybe the new Research Lab will have some nice new shiny that will be very useful.

    Oh it does.... Lots of Stuffs, was gonna list them all but don't wanna get whacked.

  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    just call me grand admiral MIDAS
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    Man, if you are playing the game for gold then you are not playing the game.
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  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    It must be my inner ferengi....I have millions of bars of gold plated latinum too and nothing worth spending them on. My six character gold fleet will be magnificent.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    robbie222222 wrote: »
    It must be my inner ferengi....I have millions of bars of gold plated latinum too and nothing worth spending them on. My six character gold fleet will be magnificent.

    Ah the great Ferengi epic tale of the latinum armada buying out all opposition.
    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    everyone has a price
  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    rattler2 is correct, you do not need to have everything to be gold to play the game. Out of my 10 toons, only 1% of my equipment is EPIC. I do not know what your asking, that more dil be put into the game, or that the dil requirement be increased. I personally, in favor of tons of refined dil enter the game, a majority of players would rather use it to purchase zen then upgrade, so I could use my zen to purchase dil at a ratio of 500 to 1.

    Per the whole, "doom to failure" for the next holding project, well managed fleets already have the resources ready to go to upgrade the new holding in record time. For example, my fleet of 5 players have all the resources (based off what tribble stated) to complete every project for the research holding. Small fleets are getting a life line, Armadas.

    Their will always be haves, and have nots. Good thing, you can always get a free invite to any holding via the wonderful NoPpublicservice channel!
    Armada: Multiplying fleet projects in need of dilithium by 13."
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  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    the 38th rule of aquizition.....never pay more than is necessary for loot. to spend refined dil on a fleet project only to pay more dil to upgrade, when you can now upgrade to the same level without a fleet makes no sense to my inner ferengi.
  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »

    14 Gold is nice, but NOT required to succeed.
    thats a lot of carrots doc!
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    but is true, your best defense and weapon is skill. im proof of that, the USS Kittyprize is a Tier 1 constitution class, and it can run delta missions fine. i even use it to run iconian queues. i use only tos weapons too, they still get the job done!
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