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Should Cryptic devote their current programming energies to releasing Armadas or fixing bugs?

swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
edited July 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Should Cryptic be devoting most of its programming attention to getting Armadas (and season 10.5) out the door, or delay Armadas and work on bug fixes and quality of life improvements in the current systems?

Should Cryptic devote their current programming energies to releasing Armadas or fixing bugs? 53 votes

Armadas now! My fleet needs this.
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Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    They should stop almost everything and work on bugfixing. But that will never happen, unfortunately, but my vote anyways.
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    repetitiveepic wrote: »
    What bugs do you mean anyway?

    This is sarcasm, right? (i seriously hope so...)
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    You do realize that this is not how things work, right? They don't ask themselves "shall we work on an old bug or program some new content today?".
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    sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    "Should Cryptic devote their current programming energies to releasing Armadas or fixing bugs?"

    Technically speaking Cryptic's "programming energies" are on season 11.5/12 Armadas are, at this point, being polished for release not still being worked on... otherwise they wouldn't tell us anything about them.
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    drowrulesupreme wrote: »
    We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
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    swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    My current peeve is doffing in sector space. I believe that the assimilated console still breaks if you upgrade it. There's also the problems with ground doff skills resetting, and I'm still getting rubber banding, although it's getting better.
    It'd be nice if they listed executing and recently completed diff missions in completion order, like the old system did, but the current system's livable. Also some indication that a doff has R&D stats.
    Mostly, I'm tired of them releasing system n, while still fixing bugs from system n - 2.
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    hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    Armadas now! My fleet needs this.
    Armadas. Because honestly, a lot of the game's problems are either slight inconveniences or purely cosmetic. But they have piled up a lot over the years, haven't they?

    Of course, if a bug pops up, any at all, that would directly affect revenue, Cryptic's definitely gonna address that ASAP. :p
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    swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    angrytarg wrote: »
    You do realize that this is not how things work, right? They don't ask themselves "shall we work on an old bug or program some new content today?".

    No, but someone can say "development on Armadas stops while we work on these bugs." One of the comments on the Glass Door thread mentioned them having a lot of technical debt. Think of this as paying some of it off. (And hopefully, this'll help the people writing new systems write less buggy code.)

    (And in my list of bugs, it looks like the client leaks memory.)
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    alonaralonar Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    So what are the people working on finishing up armadas going to do while the programers fix the bugs?
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    zebulongileszebulongiles Member Posts: 335 Arc User
    They have more then one group of developers on the game and various devs with differing specialties, they can work on new features such as Armadas and bug fixing at the same time. Bugs for a game this size and complexity take time to reproduce and fix.

    Us the game players have an uncountable variation of computer configurations. More types of computers and configurations then even the best Q&A teams would ever hope to have. We can help with bug fixing though, make proper detailed bug reports. Both in game and appropriate bug report pages here in the forums.
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    iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    Cryptic does both at the same time. They fix bugs and release new content. Just because they haven't gotten around to the bugs you've noticed doesn't mean it isn't on their agenda.

    When STO goes into maintenance mode, we'll get our glorious bug fixes as their programmers will be quite busy fixing all the bugs while their development team will have moved onto another project (or several projects).
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    hypl wrote: »
    Armadas. Because honestly, a lot of the game's problems are either slight inconveniences or purely cosmetic.

    I am allucinating.. lol.
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    iconians wrote: »
    Cryptic does both at the same time. They fix bugs and release new content. .

    lol, i wish that were true. Why people cant be just honest? i hate white knights, seriously.
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    sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    Armadas now! My fleet needs this.
    even if i'm not very interested by the armada stuff (= more grind), the game must evolved, and i think for the overall game, the armadas can be a good thing.
    iconians wrote: »
    Cryptic does both at the same time. They fix bugs and release new content. .


    lol, i wish that were true. Why people cant be just honest? i hate white knights, seriously.

    Iconians is right. cryptic has more than 1 team of devs. And they don't work on the same thing at the same time

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    themetalstickmanthemetalstickman Member Posts: 1,010 Arc User
    Armadas now! My fleet needs this.
    You're forgetting that the "known issues" section of patch notes is for the issues that have a fix in progress. So if it's in the "known issues" section, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
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    swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    Armadas can wait. The bugs are driving me nuts!
    themetalstickman wrote: »
    You're forgetting that the "known issues" section of patch notes is for the issues that have a fix in progress. So if it's in the "known issues" section, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.

    "Known issues" is stuff that Trendy knows about. Frost's verified a ton of bugs that never got into "known issues". (Heck most of the fixes you see each week were never listed as known bugs.)
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    jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    Armadas now! My fleet needs this.
    iconians wrote: »
    Cryptic does both at the same time. They fix bugs and release new content. Just because they haven't gotten around to the bugs you've noticed doesn't mean it isn't on their agenda.

    When STO goes into maintenance mode, we'll get our glorious bug fixes as their programmers will be quite busy fixing all the bugs while their development team will have moved onto another project (or several projects).



    hope this is bloody long way off
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    sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    The bug staff and devs have said multiple times that what you see in patch notes is a micro-fraction of what's changed, updated, fixed per patch. To draw up an exhaustive list of the fixes per patch would be just that... Exhaustive....

    Why waste time telling you what they've fixed when they could literally be fixing other things?
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    drowrulesupreme wrote: »
    We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
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    askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    These types of threads always show up on a monthly if not weekly basis. They fix bugs and release content. Any MMO that just does bug fixes will never be caught up to a game being 100% bug free. Until they shut their doors.

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