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Confirmed.... New T6 Jem'hadar Recon Ship

Not sure if you have it on Holodeck yet but I stumbled up on a little gem in tribble.... a Strike ship selection pack with this little beauty in, Having both PILOT AND INTEL boff seating. The pilot bein a Ltcmdr Tac Hybrid and the Intel and Eng Lt. Looks like they answered many people's prayers.
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    medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    It totally makes sense a Jem Attack ship should be very manuerable like a pilot ship, good on them... any screengrabs to share?
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    lsegnlsegn Member Posts: 594 Arc User
    I'll stick with my Intel LTCMDR...

    It pisses me off that they do this TRIBBLE. They aren't easy to acquire.
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    gumpy24gumpy24 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    I would post one but whenever i try screenie the hud never shows.
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    damix4damix4 Member Posts: 608 Arc User
    gumpy24 wrote: »
    I would post one but whenever i try screenie the hud never shows.

    "To take a screen shot with the User Interface, use the command /screenshot_ui (for TGA) or /screenshot_ui_jpg (for JPG) in the chat box."
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    lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I you guys talking about the T6 Jem'hadar Strike Ship or is this Jemhadar Recon ship something news?
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    gumpy24gumpy24 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    Here's the shots, hope they work.

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    tontokowalski22tontokowalski22 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    But does it have the same ship trait, or a new one? Also, can it use the pilot maneuvers?
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    gumpy24gumpy24 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    same trait and no pilot maneuvers.
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    It totally makes sense a Jem Attack ship should be very manuerable like a pilot ship, good on them... any screengrabs to share?

    The bug ship must be the most inflated ship in the game, seriously. Yes it is really manouverable, but in the shows and in the canon specifications it has not even half of the weapon power than a defiant, for example just for naming one aspect of the ship. The Bug ship of the game is a complete different ship.. sadly. But who cares nowadays lol. So, it really doenst make any sense, since they released the first attack ship ever.

    But extra pilot and maneouver abilities?? why ? i dont get it. And if you put that on the bug ship, why not do it on every escort or T6 fited to it?? or can we expect from now on cryptic to be including those abilities in all ships?
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    medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    I want pilot options on the Jem ships cuz I have em all and don't want to buy dedicated pilot ships cuz I wasted so much money gettin these babies
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    gumpy24gumpy24 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »

    Sadly i dont know how else to get thigs on here. itd be much easier if you could just upload directly here.
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    It totally makes sense a Jem Attack ship should be very manuerable like a pilot ship, good on them... any screengrabs to share?

    The bug ship must be the most inflated ship in the game, seriously. Yes it is really manouverable, but in the shows and in the canon specifications it has not even half of the weapon power than a defiant, for example just for naming one aspect of the ship. The Bug ship of the game is a complete different ship.. sadly. But who cares nowadays lol. So, it really doenst make any sense, since they released the first attack ship ever.

    But extra pilot and maneouver abilities?? why ? i dont get it. And if you put that on the bug ship, why not do it on every escort or T6 fited to it?? or can we expect from now on cryptic to be including those abilities in all ships?

    As i said, the ship does NOT have the pilot abilitis the pilot ships have.... just the Lt.Cmdr Tac Pilot seating.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    gumpy24 wrote: »
    same trait and no pilot maneuvers.

    That answers that LOL

    So... Probably same stats and behavior as everything else with the T6 JHSS (Intel/Command). Same basic layout, minus specialization differences. Same console layout, and as you said, same trait and no Pilot Maneuvers.

    It seems we're going to see the BOFF seating switch-a-roo and sell the same ship, all on the same tier. It seems Cryptic will do this for the Premium "Promo" ships like the JHSS. The first one was the Elachi Sheshar. Originally Intel and then recently pimped out again with Command (those spec abilities suck). Now the JHAS ship type will get the same treatment.

    The way things stand in STO right now, I'd say the "Recon" JHSS is better. Hybrid, limited seating for Intel/Pilot is better than Intel/Command. Everything else is exactly the same.
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    It totally makes sense a Jem Attack ship should be very manuerable like a pilot ship, good on them... any screengrabs to share?

    The bug ship must be the most inflated ship in the game, seriously. Yes it is really manouverable, but in the shows and in the canon specifications it has not even half of the weapon power than a defiant, for example just for naming one aspect of the ship. The Bug ship of the game is a complete different ship.. sadly. But who cares nowadays lol. So, it really doenst make any sense, since they released the first attack ship ever.

    But extra pilot and maneouver abilities?? why ? i dont get it. And if you put that on the bug ship, why not do it on every escort or T6 fited to it?? or can we expect from now on cryptic to be including those abilities in all ships?

    In canon, the Bugship is the ultimate Cannon Fodder ship. More Bugships have been blown up onscreen in very quick sequence than every other ship class in Star Trek combined. It has to be. Rare was a combat scene in the Dominion War when several Bugships were NOT blowing up LOL! They make Mirandas look like Sovereign-class ships.
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    khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    can we have the jem'hadar battlecruiser now
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015

    In canon, the Bugship is the ultimate Cannon Fodder ship. More Bugships have been blown up onscreen in very quick sequence than every other ship class in Star Trek combined. It has to be. Rare was a combat scene in the Dominion War when several Bugships were NOT blowing up LOL! They make Mirandas look like Sovereign-class ships.

    Erm the only scene where we saw a bugship killing something was when they just crushed with the galaxy class showing they were willing to do everything they could to stop the starfleet. Lol, more than that.. the bug ship from the game is as i said, a totallly different ship lol. In drex files also i saw ages ago the "stats" (they used to post images with stats of the models) of the bug ship, and i remember it was compared with a doped saber class... xD. More faster and powerful but still just a -1 use- ship lol.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    gumpy24 wrote: »

    Sadly i dont know how else to get thigs on here. itd be much easier if you could just upload directly here.

    I'm using imgur now. Very easy, and does exactly what I need. :)

    Also, the Recon ship is not just the JHSS, right? If so, I'm actually a bit annoyed by yet another Jem ship: stop devaluating the existing ones! Grrr.
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    gumpy24gumpy24 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Right lets try this....

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    Ahh success... enjoy.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    gumpy24 wrote: »
    Right lets try this....

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    Ahh success... enjoy.


    Thank you kindly! :)

    So, esstentially, it's got a Lt. Cmdr Pilot seat now (instead of Intel), and an Intel Lt. seat (what used to be Command).
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    artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Still no battleship though :( .
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    gumpy24 wrote: »
    same trait and no pilot maneuvers.

    In that case, I likely won't bother. :) My JHSS is good enough.
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    Still no battleship though :( .
    maybe that was reserved for when they make Dominion faction?
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    khan1000 wrote: »
    can we have the jem'hadar battlecruiser now

    The funny thing is, STO originally used to have the models for the Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser in the game. But you can't see them anymore because they're replaced with the JHEC models. The same thing happened with some older NPC Fed ship models being replaced by Command FDC ones.
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    artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I fought one in 'of Bajor' a few weeks ago.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    khan1000 wrote: »
    can we have the jem'hadar battlecruiser now

    The funny thing is, STO originally used to have the models for the Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser in the game. But you can't see them anymore because they're replaced with the JHEC models. The same thing happened with some older NPC Fed ship models being replaced by Command FDC ones.

    It is the heavy escort carrier.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    khan1000 wrote: »
    can we have the jem'hadar battlecruiser now

    The funny thing is, STO originally used to have the models for the Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser in the game. But you can't see them anymore because they're replaced with the JHEC models. The same thing happened with some older NPC Fed ship models being replaced by Command FDC ones.

    It is the heavy escort carrier.

    They're not the same ships. The JHEC looks nothing at all like the canon Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser.
    STO JHEC
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Jem'Hadar_Heavy_Escort_Carrier
    JH Battlecruiser from DS9
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jem'Hadar_battle_cruiser

    The JHEC is a very boxy, stubby ship compared to the less bulky canon JH Battlecruiser with its softer linework and much more pronounced wings.

    I used to see the JH Battlecruiser models all the time in KDF "Empire Defense" missions at the ChoS Nebula. Now JHECs replace them.
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    seriousxenoseriousxeno Member Posts: 473 Arc User
    khan1000 wrote: »
    can we have the jem'hadar battlecruiser now

    I know right? I'm so sick of this little cannon fodder turned god ship. Honestly, I'm shocked the battlecruiser isn't playable yet. AFAIK its the only Dominion ship that isn't playable yet (barring the Karemma vessel).

    With all of these Dominion ships in player hands, its fairly obvious that the Dominion will never be a playable faction, so they might as well bring on the battlecruiser.
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    medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    They're saving the Battlecruiser for the next major Dominion related content...which should be hopefully very soon
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    kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Cryptic is calling "Dreadnought" what it should be "Battlecruiser". Battlecruiser is the "canon" clasification of the ship. The other Jem Hadar ship in the game , the heavy escort is just not canon. The Heavy escort has a similar shape to the jem hadar cruiser, the other canon ship, but slighty different.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    Cryptic is calling "Dreadnought" what it should be "Battlecruiser". Battlecruiser is the "canon" clasification of the ship. The other Jem Hadar ship in the game , the heavy escort is just not canon. The Heavy escort has a similar shape to the jem hadar cruiser, the other canon ship, but slighty different.

    Just to set it straight because Cryptic mixes terms up all the time and not just with the Dominion. It all can be a confusing mess. Canon Dominion Warships are very few so it's very easy to sort out:

    Bugship, also referred to as a "fighter" in DS9 at times (JHAS in STO):
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jem'Hadar_fighter

    Battlecruiser (was NPC ship in STO)
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jem'Hadar_battle_cruiser
    It also doesn't help that this same ship had 2 onscreen variations
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/dominion-battlecruiser.htm

    Battleship (JHDC in STO)
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jem'Hadar_battleship
    The JHDC believe it or not is modeled way too small haha

    STO's Non-Canon Dominion ships: Fighters, JHEC. There's also the Battleship:
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Jem'Hadar_Battleship
    The BB you can still easily find ingame as NPC ships. Months ago, there was hope & rumors that this would be a playable ship but that didn't pan out. This ship is actually closer in design theme to the canon Battlecruiser than the JHEC is but is way too big for that. The Battlecruisers weren't large and roughly the size of Cardassian Galors.

    In KDF Empire Defense at ChoS Nebula, you could find the True Way with these ships. Again, I haven't seen the Battlecruiser in ages but lots of JHECs, tons of Bugships, the occasional Battleship.
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