I am thinking just how absolutely perfectly a fully stuffed and mounted Ferengi would appear right next to the heads of all those Tal Shiar operatives which adorn the wall of my ready room.
tlh'Ingans angry because a third rate trader double crossed them? Forget that. How about a completely ticked off Rihannsu who suddenly finds himself in need of a new hobby?
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
I am thinking just how absolutely perfectly a fully stuffed and mounted Ferengi would appear right next to the heads of all those Tal Shiar operatives which adorn the wall of my ready room.
tlh'Ingans angry because a third rate trader double crossed them? Forget that. How about a completely ticked off Rihannsu who suddenly finds himself in need of a new hobby?
I let the ferengi live twice,both times after he double crossed me.Not this time though
But i wont kill him then and there,oh no!I will scan for the biggest group of heralds i can find,then drag that ferengi garbage scow there under warp and let the heralds.....erm...."get to know" qwen
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There IS still one time-traveling species out there that could turn the tide based on demonstrations of their technology: the Devidians nearly pulled an entire sector out of temporospatial phase and are adept time travelers.
Attempting any form of negotiation with them would be incredibly dangerous, perhaps even more ethically fraught than working with the Kobali, and could result in being stabbed in the back. My Earth-raised Devidian toon will be the first to warn you of that. But it IS a second option.
Indeed, the possibility of Devidians as Iconian servitors, or at least as exploited pawns (to do the Iconians' temporal dirty work for them), is raised in my new Foundry mission "Ghost's Gambit".
As for the artifact, I have a different theory: It's the Tox Uthat, having been delivered by the Krenim from the 27th century (or from an alternate 27th century) to be used to blow up the sphere near Iconia with all the Heralds in it, then to be taken back further in time and hidden on Risa. (Never mind that similar technology has already been around since Star Trek Generations.)
You know I would really like to see more of the war story make it into the game. itself. It doesn't feel very war-like at the moment. If this Krenim device is going to end the war nobody will even notice.
after all temporal paradoxes are funny in startreck they by a random act in the war we may end up undoing all that spock did to redo it in a paradox loop....
Ohhhhhhhh Qwen. You wont be able to run far nuff, fast nuff if you irritate the Klingons. They carry grudges like no ones business. The Feds will toss you in a prison that you will someday get out of. Republic most likely the same. But the Klingons.. They'll hunt you down and kill you...painfully... very painfully...
Or the Klingons will put him in prison and threaten to kill him every day, just to watch the Ferengi squirm.
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I think Qwen has underestimated how pissed the Alliance will be. Yes, 'A contract is a contract is a contract... but only between Ferengi'. That works both ways, though. It means the Alliance doesn't have to regard the contract as ironclad as Qwen seems to think they should. It could be that a certain starship captain, possibly with the assistance of Nog, is going to hunt Qwen down for information, the Alliance's latinum back and a term of residency in Facility 4028, then hunt down the Krenim artifact and probably have to get in a large battle with some Heralds and/or Elachi that have been sent coincidentally to also retrieve it.
I think Qwen has underestimated how pissed the Alliance will be. Yes, 'A contract is a contract is a contract... but only between Ferengi'. That works both ways, though. It means the Alliance doesn't have to regard the contract as ironclad as Qwen seems to think they should. It could be that a certain starship captain, possibly with the assistance of Nog, is going to hunt Qwen down for information, the Alliance's latinum back and a term of residency in Facility 4028, then hunt down the Krenim artifact and probably have to get in a large battle with some Heralds and/or Elachi that have been sent coincidentally to also retrieve it.
No I don't think so although I'm in a state of mind that tells me we will only beat the Iconians with time travel
Eliminate the Krenim shame I was looking forward to a story arc with them, but I believe there is a certain time weapon ship hanging about in an abandoned dry dock finished and waiting for a shakedown cruise in the last few minutes of Year of Hell Annorax was still doing temporal equations. Even though the time ship was not shown, who knows maybe the Krenim built it. But alas I know it was wiped from time but would Annorax not have been?
REMEMBER Voyager was in Krenim space on a covert mission after the Vaadaur had wiped them out maybe Voyager has tripped over the time ship on its travels.
Everytime I see complaints about the same thing
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Wow wow wow, wait hold on there! Don't undersell something of this extreme value!
It's actually authentic fake real imitation totally-legitimate replicas.
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& if the krenim are gonna make a comeback & pwlaughingtrendy loves fancy beams will Chronitons be given beam arrays & dual heavy cannons/turrets be added into the crafting rep (PLEASE)(obviously not linked to set)
A devidian vs solonae conflict out of phase from normal space might make for a really interesting episode. After all, from delta flight we know the solonae have a fleet they can't use in the war's main front.granted, there's nothing to say the solonae are any more capable of surviving in the conditions the devidians live in than they are in real space. Still, it'd be interesting.
I imagine the collateral damage would be disturbing on many levels.
Yeah, though what I had in mind was the Devidians targeting the Dyson sphere in the Iconia system and pulling it out of temporophasic alignment. If the Heralds are subject to the same insanity as the Iconians, a huge number of them just became lunch, and possibly even an Iconian among them, as they lose their minds.
Allowing that would be a huge risk, and directly helping in encouraging it and setting it up would be even worse, and likely even morally wrong. But it would be very Trek to wrestle with that sort of ethical conundrum.
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Yeah, though what I had in mind was the Devidians targeting the Dyson sphere in the Iconia system and pulling it out of temporophasic alignment. If the Heralds are subject to the same insanity as the Iconians, a huge number of them just became lunch, and possibly even an Iconian among them, as they lose their minds.
Allowing that would be a huge risk, and directly helping in encouraging it and setting it up would be even worse, and likely even morally wrong. But it would be very Trek to wrestle with that sort of ethical conundrum.
I'd do it. Then wipe the Devivians out... it'd be a way to get them all in one area so I could slaughter them
Indeed, the possibility of Devidians as Iconian servitors, or at least as exploited pawns (to do the Iconians' temporal dirty work for them), is raised in my new Foundry mission "Ghost's Gambit".
Interesting premise, though the Iconians would be taking a grave risk to have a temporally-active species in the fold, since theoretically the Devidians could get out of control. Even more of a threat in my own story universe since preconditions for my Devidian captain included the Devidians having independent thought unlike the Jem'Hadar, and not being made so irrational by the feeding urge that one raised outside of Devidian culture could not be sated by artificially generated energy. (Obviously for him to be in Starfleet he can't be using the crew as MRE's, or have the admiralty thinking that's a serious possibility.). In that sort of universe, betrayal would be a real risk the Iconians would run.
Is your mission released yet? I would be interested in playing it.
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I'd do it. Then wipe the Devivians out... it'd be a way to get them all in one area so I could slaughter them
Assuming you got the full populations of both into the area, that would potentially be a double xenocide, and at least a xenocide attempt. The debate about whether that is an acceptable cost for winning the war, or whether some solutions are so horrible that it is better to die than to "win" that way, would be a hell of a Trek debate.
(One that in my universe is made even more serious by the fact that my Devidian captain's career and character shows conclusive proof that if raised outside their sick culture, a Devidian can be sated by artificial sustenance, and actually be a person of conscience and compassion. A xenocide ends the possibility of redemption forever, and I actually took on that discussion in a short story once.)
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There's a long tradition of portraying Ferengi as stupid, but this one was just totally unbelievable. It could have at least been funny.
Obviously, it's stupid to blatantly rip off a Klingon warrior, for reasons that have been pointed out repeatedly already. But even at the level of short-sighted petty chicanery, this didn't make sense. Qwen was negotiating with a representative of the second most powerful interstellar state in the Alpha and Beta quadrants, who is also representing an alliance with two other major interstellar states, one of which is the most powerful and the richest. Who could outbid them? Maybe the Dominion, but nobody else. Who the frak is Oglo? The only reason to even bring in another potential buyer would be to push the buyer with the deepest pockets in two quadrants to pay more.
Qwen could have been fiendishly clever, or comic, or both, and that would have made a more interesting story. Qwen was just stupid, in a completely uninteresting way.
If the Ferengi are so obsessively focused on being merchants, they should at least show some indication of a basic understanding of haggling.
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But i wont kill him then and there,oh no!I will scan for the biggest group of heralds i can find,then drag that ferengi garbage scow there under warp and let the heralds.....erm...."get to know" qwen
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Indeed, the possibility of Devidians as Iconian servitors, or at least as exploited pawns (to do the Iconians' temporal dirty work for them), is raised in my new Foundry mission "Ghost's Gambit".
As for the artifact, I have a different theory: It's the Tox Uthat, having been delivered by the Krenim from the 27th century (or from an alternate 27th century) to be used to blow up the sphere near Iconia with all the Heralds in it, then to be taken back further in time and hidden on Risa. (Never mind that similar technology has already been around since Star Trek Generations.)
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with the krenim dreadnaught
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or spocks sci ship http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2008/11/2008-11-20-spock_ship.jpg
after all temporal paradoxes are funny in startreck they by a random act in the war we may end up undoing all that spock did to redo it in a paradox loop....
It's actually authentic fake real imitation totally-legitimate replicas.
Or the Klingons will put him in prison and threaten to kill him every day, just to watch the Ferengi squirm.
<See "In the Pale Moonlght" for reference>
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agreed.
your captain is now pretty much black ops.
No I don't think so although I'm in a state of mind that tells me we will only beat the Iconians with time travel
Eliminate the Krenim shame
REMEMBER Voyager was in Krenim space on a covert mission after the Vaadaur had wiped them out maybe Voyager has tripped over the time ship on its travels.
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a sci-ship with pilot ability's
& if the krenim are gonna make a comeback & pwlaughingtrendy loves fancy beams will Chronitons be given beam arrays & dual heavy cannons/turrets be added into the crafting rep (PLEASE)(obviously not linked to set)
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Yeah, though what I had in mind was the Devidians targeting the Dyson sphere in the Iconia system and pulling it out of temporophasic alignment. If the Heralds are subject to the same insanity as the Iconians, a huge number of them just became lunch, and possibly even an Iconian among them, as they lose their minds.
Allowing that would be a huge risk, and directly helping in encouraging it and setting it up would be even worse, and likely even morally wrong. But it would be very Trek to wrestle with that sort of ethical conundrum.
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I'd do it. Then wipe the Devivians out... it'd be a way to get them all in one area so I could slaughter them
Interesting premise, though the Iconians would be taking a grave risk to have a temporally-active species in the fold, since theoretically the Devidians could get out of control. Even more of a threat in my own story universe since preconditions for my Devidian captain included the Devidians having independent thought unlike the Jem'Hadar, and not being made so irrational by the feeding urge that one raised outside of Devidian culture could not be sated by artificially generated energy. (Obviously for him to be in Starfleet he can't be using the crew as MRE's, or have the admiralty thinking that's a serious possibility.). In that sort of universe, betrayal would be a real risk the Iconians would run.
Is your mission released yet? I would be interested in playing it.
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Assuming you got the full populations of both into the area, that would potentially be a double xenocide, and at least a xenocide attempt. The debate about whether that is an acceptable cost for winning the war, or whether some solutions are so horrible that it is better to die than to "win" that way, would be a hell of a Trek debate.
(One that in my universe is made even more serious by the fact that my Devidian captain's career and character shows conclusive proof that if raised outside their sick culture, a Devidian can be sated by artificial sustenance, and actually be a person of conscience and compassion. A xenocide ends the possibility of redemption forever, and I actually took on that discussion in a short story once.)
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Obviously, it's stupid to blatantly rip off a Klingon warrior, for reasons that have been pointed out repeatedly already. But even at the level of short-sighted petty chicanery, this didn't make sense. Qwen was negotiating with a representative of the second most powerful interstellar state in the Alpha and Beta quadrants, who is also representing an alliance with two other major interstellar states, one of which is the most powerful and the richest. Who could outbid them? Maybe the Dominion, but nobody else. Who the frak is Oglo? The only reason to even bring in another potential buyer would be to push the buyer with the deepest pockets in two quadrants to pay more.
Qwen could have been fiendishly clever, or comic, or both, and that would have made a more interesting story. Qwen was just stupid, in a completely uninteresting way.
If the Ferengi are so obsessively focused on being merchants, they should at least show some indication of a basic understanding of haggling.