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calintane753
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Shortly: the Command Abilities are nothing more than a stub, while the "Preserver Resonant Technologies" set in the wiki isn't present at all.
Thanks.
Bye / Qapl
Thanks.
Bye / Qapl
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http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Fix it yourself.:rolleyes:
The site the Devs actually maintain is the Arc Site.
That site actually has the information you are looking for.
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ok im guessing you fail to comprehend what folk are saying.. the initial responses where.. 'it isnt updated by the devs, it is updated by the community'.. that leads to 'IF you find no info or an error, and YOU CAN ADD a little, add a lot, OR just CORRECT IT.. then DO SO.
if everyone shared your general attitude towards the wiki.. the wiki wouldn't exist. the guys and girls that write to the wiki, clearly already know that information, so by your thinking.. they don't actually need to be there do they? but they are and they do a great job with the time they can spare.
be grateful that people are willing to spend their own time writing to and updating the information on the wiki, that work would be simpler if more people got involved. expecting all the information to be there and up to date without understanding how it gets there or complaining about it in any fashion is just [rude] there's a few other words that would probably express that better, but i often forget the better descriptive ones so that will have to do.
I would be very grateful... if it were up to date. But the vast majority of Intel-related powers have not even a page available, which was released five months ago. Let's not even get into data on the Command specialisation.
I will admit, however, that my post was somewhat poorly worded, but I'm afraid that I don't know how to word it any better
I would say that you missed the point but the reality is that you willingly ignored it. BTW, Command was released 5 months ago. Intel was released back in the Fall.
Hey, that's not fair, I miss the point all the time
... really?
Wow. A lot more time went by than I thought did.
Yes, the STO Wiki is updated by players. The same players who on these forums pass off opinion as fact, and prefer to use emotion-based logic to reality-based logic.
A lot of "detailed info" written by Wiki authors is conjecture, and what they "feel" is correct, not what might actually be correct. The admins of the STO Wiki have never had any problem with this, so the over-all quality of the STO Wiki has always been sub-par. For every well-written, accurate article, there are 50 pages with outdated TRIBBLE, or no pages on topics of interest at all.
A great deal of what is listed in the Wiki is also simply regurgitated in-game tooltips and info, word-for-word. This includes all possible bugs, typos, and 'misidentifications' that we see in the patch notes from time to time.
A player would have better luck asking Borticus on the forums than to consider what someone wrote on the STO Wiki as factually accurate.
People continually ask why the STO Wiki is in such a sad state. And the uncomfortable truth of it is that any person with the knowledge and skill to improve the quality of the wiki recognizes it as a lost cause and a waste of their time.
Agreed...Don't believe everything there is there. That is why its a WIKI. Lots of good information but always check for yourselves and do your own homework to confirm information.
This seems terribly unfair to the people that mantain the wiki. Also, the fact that it is a copy of what is found ingame is something expected (if a Thingitron does 1000 damage to a random enemy, I expect the wiki to say that a Thingitron does 1000 damage to a random enemy, not something else)
I've found a lot of interesting info I wouldn't ever be able to find (or that would provide pretty hard to scavenge from forums, arc or the old website). I would probably have given up on most stuff if not for the wiki.
Maybe the STO wiki is subpar, but it is the only coherent source of information we have. You want a comprehensive list of all playable starships with a link to each one's stats, or info on how to obtain a particular ship? Good luck finding that piece of info on Arc or everywhere else. Or asking Borticus to provide one.
Might seem unfair, but it is what it is. I don't believe in giving out cookies and pats on the back for sub-par work, even if it is volunteer work. If a player volunteers to inform and educate the playerbase, they volunteer to hold themselves accountable for the things they say and any scrutiny that comes with it.
If I volunteer to say something on the STO forums, I volunteer what I say as open for criticism. I don't expect people to kiss my aft simply because I'm trying to bring some enlightenment from time to time -- to the contrary, I expect people to tell me when I'm wrong and why I'm wrong.
If any player-run resource simply gets hand-fed information from Cryptic and PWE without any sort of independant research, then there is no point in having that player-run resource if it's simply an echo-chamber for what Cryptic has already published.
I help maintain the wiki for another video game, and the only reason I do that is because the administration there refuses to settle for what the video game developer says and they have volunteers who do their own research and analysis for the betterment of the game. The video game developer, in turn, uses their wiki as a research tool for quality assurance.
"Hey, this article says this thingamajig deals 1,000 damage."
"Yeah, that's what it does."
"But this wiki author has noted that it only deals 900 damage."
"Huh, we should go check it out then."
I'm not saying nobody should ever consult the wiki ever, just that most of it is horribly out of date or inaccurate and has been for 5 years. There's no sense in anticipating it will suddenly change its tune overnight. There are times I go to the wiki as well, but like anything -- it's only one resource in a multi-part strategy to get the facts.
Just because it's the only coherent source of information (which I'd argue, since the STO subReddit and even 4chan have demonstrated better investigative skill and information publication from time to time), doesn't mean anybody should settle for it if it's low quality.
The difference between No Information and Misinformation can be extremely insignifigant. In some cases, one might be better off not reading the STOWiki at all if it affects their decision-making, since it could actually be harmful instead of helpful.
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Is anyone maintaining the wiki? I don't mean that as an insult, but an actual question: many Intel and command powers aren't up there and some of the new ships don't even have pages. Did the people who used to like to do the wiki given up? Moved on to another game?
But it's not comprehensive. This is why everyone telling the OP to just write something is missing the point: so much needs to be done on the wiki that it looks like a daunting task, at best, or a lost cause, at worst.
Maybe a group of players could get together and update it? And get rid of those "performance" sections that are either terrible advice (in one article someone recommended running all turrets on a ship) or stating the obvious ("this ship has a lot of science slots" Thanks, sto-wiki!).
One person working alone is going to feel like Sysiphus considering the speed at which new ships and abilities are coming out.
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
The OP was misinformed, it's an honest mistake, it's not as if he/she made a childish rant about it like so many people do.
My point is that it is actually better than the *nothing* we get from Cryptic, because it may act as a starting point. Example:
I want to know what space/ground equipment sets are available and how do I get them. So I look for "[STO] equipment sets" in various places.
Obviously it's far from being perfect, but still someone took the time to collect information (from various sources, some might be correct, other not so) and put it together in one place.
Now, it is a wiki, everyone knows you always take wikis for what they are: not an official source for anything, prone to honest errors or plain trolling.
Still, ARC won't do any good to anyone not looking for a very specific piece of information (in other words you must know what you are looking for in the first place)... and even then you might not find what you're looking for (i.e. try looking for nukara rep rewards, or d'kora marauder, if there was any information it's lost now).