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R&D: Any point of going above lv 15?
jestersage
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Is there any reason to go above lv 15, such as able to get Mk 13/14 360 Beam Array?
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Nope unless you upgrade it later.
U.S.S. Buteo Regalis - Brigid Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer build
R.R.W. Ri Maajon - Khopesh Tactical Dreadnought Warbird build
My Youtube channel containing STO videos.
I'm sure your DPS is great, but as Kahless said, "a petaQ with high system mastery is still a petaQ." (Well, he should have said it...!)
May as well keep the R&D going until you're finished.
You wouldn't want to be disapointed in the future if they do infact add lvl 20 craftable items at some point.
Word has it they're working on improvements for the crafting system...so better to play it safe, then be sorry...right ?
I won't lie, when they introduced the change to let us "triple up" R&D research on a school, I thought it was going to coincide with the release of some item that required R&D level 20. So I've reluctantly gotten back to everyone leveling their R&D, just so that if it happens I'm better prepared.
I'm sure your DPS is great, but as Kahless said, "a petaQ with high system mastery is still a petaQ." (Well, he should have said it...!)
Exactly. May as well keep going with it. Just in case.
True. The XP projects are so cheap (1 white material), the only rational reason not to go for level 20 would be being too lazy to start the daily projects.
This.... nothing wrong with maxing out, and it increasing the values to crit on projects (which can result in doubling things such as number of upgrade kits). My Fed Eng is at lvl 15+ in all schools, and lvl20 in beams.
15 gets you the captain trait. Using a purple doff, you can hit 100% chance to craft VR Mk IIs at around 13.
Not wanting to lock out your crafting slots, actually.
Because if you're leveling crafting schools, you're not crafting something else.
On this, I would ignore Druk. Unless you're already space rich, there's still EC to be made. I'd suggest producing something consistent, such as tech upgrades, instead of going for the grand prize of [CrtD]x2 [Pen].
Log in.
Click on the doff/R+D icon.
Collect previous day's results.
Click one school
Make sure it gave the list for the school you want.
Scroll to bottom (why oh why isn't the 20 hour on the top of the list?).
Click 20hr.
Click school.
Make sure it gave the list for the school you want.
Click 20 hr.
Click school.
Make sure it gave the list for the school you want.
Click 20 hr.
Click other school.
Make sure it gave the list for the school you want.
Scroll to bottom (see previous scroll to bottom).
Click 20 hr.
Click school.
Make sure it gave the list for the school you want.
Click 20 hr.
Calm down after all that exciting slider play.
I play a little game called "How fast can I slot my projects."
Its reeeee-eal hard to calm down after that 5 sec dash. Not knowing what project ill get, makes it all the more exhilarating. *wipes brow*
Should be a mini game all it owns... I mean, we all love mini games right ?
If Lv20 R&D items do come, I expect raging fools to demand that it's unfair for those to require Lv20 for that particular school.
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Not really unless you have nothing else to do in your R&D.
...because he will find an easy way to do it.
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Takes less than 30 seconds each day I log into a given character to set some rnd research. It is a grand total of 20 mouse clicks (open doffs, go to rnd, collect 5, school, scroll, set, confirm, repeat last two four times, close doffs), less if you don't have all 5 research slots unlocked yet.
In exchange for those 30 seconds I get some very nice space combat traits. Works for me. Your mileage may vary.
You're right. My mileage did vary. But there is no reason to be all snotty about it. I am delighted you spent 30 seconds per day and about twenty or so mouse clicks to achieve this stupendous event which is unparallelled in all of Human history.
I am completely unsurprised you know those numbers so very precisely.
I do not know the exact number of mouse clicks nor the amount of time per day it took me to achieve level 15 in all areas. Nor do I care. I do know it seemed to take longer than it should have. I do not want to be handed stuff after one click, but as with the XP fiasco, the Devs realized they clamped down a bit harder than they should have. The "generous" allowance of being able to slot three research projects instead of just one meant I got where I wanted. Eventually.
As with a lot of things in this game lately, the achievement did not live up to the hype surrounding it.
Again, if you took it poorly I do apologize such was not my intent.
Let me apologize to you as well.
I had a perfectly awful day at work. I am half in the bag as well and I already know I am a mean drunk. Which are not excuses but explanations.
I forgot my 1st Rule of the Internet - Think first and then post.
Only minor benefits wait at 20 and are a matter of perspective. No MK 13/14 stuff.
You get:
- an accolade for each school
- a slightly higher chance for better outcome of crafting projects
You have to invest:
- patience cuz it takes incredibly long to get there
- not much else because a daily project is launched in 3 seconds and cost nothing
I went there on all my alts and most of them have reached 3-4 different schools at a level of 20. I only make use of it when it comes to generating upgrades. In 99% of all cases I get 2 upgrades out of each project as result.
In any case the upgrade system is a joke under consideration of the time gate because there is nothing to do there basically. Much of it is just a lottery you can already play at lower levels.
My recommendation to Cryptic is make use of it in a fashion that a lvl 20 school grants you the permission to generate all kinds of weapons up to 14 BUT with completely selectable modifiers. If this costs additional Dil then so be it. Peeps could decide for themselves if they rather pay Dil for that or play lotto.
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That's really it, aside from all the increased chances.
So true; new R&D (season 9.5) started what, just over a year ago? It took me that long w/o clicking "finish now" ever, to get 2 schools to 20 (beam/cannon), torpedoes to 17, eng & ground to 16 and sci to 15.
If lvl 20 stuff/items do come out, anyone who complains about it (i.e. because they the complainees are'nt even close to having any school at lvl 20) only have themselves to blame if they never bothered to level the crafting system.
Exactly what I do. leveling the crafting schools w/o spending 17k dil is easier than making ec from vendor trash - lol