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I'd love a response from a Dev on this

ensignswensonensignswenson Member Posts: 45 Arc User
First off there is a lot right with the Risian event and a lot to like. I don't have a lot to complain about but I do have some issues with the event this year. I'd love to go off on the flag system which drives me nuts but that's another battle for another time.

The far bigger issue and my gripe is the Targ board in relation to other boards of the same price. Last year I worked to get myself the superior boards with a number of my characters. Those boards are now garbage if I want to win a race. They both cost 1500 but they are not created equally. Yes they don't turn as well but they turn well enough for the course and they are so fast that unless you have one your chances of winning a race are slim and none, especially if you are in an instance where your racing against a few of them. For what its worth a 500 favor board keeps up with my superior better than my superior keeps up with a Targ. Seriously! WTF!!!

I know people will say if you can't beat em join em and I've bought a number of them for my Klingon characters. Its not that I have an issue grinding for loluhnuts to get what I want but I have an issue putting my Fed characters on a Kling board. Last year we got the superior boards in three flavors...why is it that there isn't a Fed and Romulan equivalent to the Targ...it doesn't take that much work to throw a new skin on something. Its not just oversight...its either apathy or laziness for Cryptic to never take this stuff into account.

Also for the fanboys who are sure not to agree with me...I'm right on this so I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK!!!!
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited June 2015
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    Also for the fanboys who are sure not to agree with me...I'm right on this so I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK!!!!

    Way to start a discussion. Not.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Way to start a discussion. Not.

    Pretty much this. Congratulations, you just completed a self-fulfilling prophecy. Way to go.
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  • gameversemangameverseman Member Posts: 1,110 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Way to start a discussion. Not.

    Way to respond to a discussion. Not. The OP has valid points and you obviously don't have anything useful to say. So why don't you be useful and leave.

    (...)

    Now I agree with the OP. My understanding was that the TARGs were suppose be slower but turn better. Not the other way around. As the OP mentioned, even though the turn rate is worse on a TARG it's completely negligible due to the nature of the course. So, if you are trying to maximize your time and receive the best rewards, you have to get a TARG board which, again, is not aesthetically pleasing to all factions.
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  • orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2015
    Uhh, yeah...

    OP, please drop the attitude, many people (myself included) actually agree with you.

    I just finished a comment in a seperate, yet simmilar, thread about the powerboard race. I really do agree that the Targ boards are overpowered.

    I came out of the starting gate ahead of everyone on my Fed board (timed the start perfectly :)), but the Targs quickly sped past me... I ended up with a 'participant' prize. Most unhappy, not for losing, but for having a top-tier board and still getting outclassed. :(
  • borthaniusborthanius Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    C'mon Swenson... are you not used to bending over for Craptic by now? When have they not given us the shaft? Just because you ground & ground in the past is no excuse for not grinding & grinding more. :D
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    borthanius wrote: »
    C'mon Swenson... are you not used to bending over for Craptic by now? When have they not given us the shaft? Just because you ground & ground in the past is no excuse for not grinding & grinding more. :D

    Also this. Players decided a while ago they were perfectly OK with top-end gear becoming nearly obsolete the following year (if not less than a year later). Just because it happened with spaceships doesn't mean that things like hoverboards and floaters are immune to the same ideology.

    While I do agree with you (people with Targ H.O.G.'s shouldn't have a clear unfair advantage), saying "Agree with me or you're a Cryptic fanboy." is not a fantastic way to start a meaningful discussion on the topic.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    You're doing the grind wrong!
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  • borthaniusborthanius Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Also this. Players decided a while ago they were perfectly OK with top-end gear becoming nearly obsolete the following year (if not less than a year later). Just because it happened with spaceships doesn't mean that things like hoverboards and floaters are immune to the same ideology.

    While I do agree with you (people with Targ H.O.G.'s shouldn't have a clear unfair advantage), saying "Agree with me or you're a Cryptic fanboy." is not a fantastic way to start a meaningful discussion on the topic.

    Sorry m8, but as a player I was not in on that conversation regarding gear becoming obsolete, so your comment that it's perfectly OK is not valid.

    As for the original posters attitude, what do you expect after 5 years of getting shafted over & over, again & again, & having a bunch of whining fan boys give him grief & come to Craptics defense, when we all know he's right?
  • ensignswensonensignswenson Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Also this. Players decided a while ago they were perfectly OK with top-end gear becoming nearly obsolete the following year (if not less than a year later). Just because it happened with spaceships doesn't mean that things like hoverboards and floaters are immune to the same ideology.

    While I do agree with you (people with Targ H.O.G.'s shouldn't have a clear unfair advantage), saying "Agree with me or you're a Cryptic fanboy." is not a fantastic way to start a meaningful discussion on the topic.


    I really don't care what you think!! I know that probably comes as a shock to you...but I really don't.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I really don't care what you think!! I know that probably comes as a shock to you...but I really don't.

    It's a good thing you're taking time to reply to me to inform me just how much you don't care about my opinion. Stay the course, my friend.
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  • gameversemangameverseman Member Posts: 1,110 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Also this. Players decided a while ago they were perfectly OK with top-end gear becoming nearly obsolete the following year (if not less than a year later). Just because it happened with spaceships doesn't mean that things like hoverboards and floaters are immune to the same ideology.

    While I do agree with you (people with Targ H.O.G.'s shouldn't have a clear unfair advantage), saying "Agree with me or you're a Cryptic fanboy." is not a fantastic way to start a meaningful discussion on the topic.

    Beside the point... you are itching for a fight there that would be off-topic and quite obviously unnecessary. If you cared about the discussion you would post your opinion regardless.... NOT criticize them on HOW they wrote their post.

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    If you actually bothered to read the OP, half the issue is with the fact that TARG boards are Klingon... not just the fact that they circumstantially outperform boards of equal value. So it's not just about things becoming obsolete. However, I, or anyone else, shouldn't have to explain this to you since it was in the OP.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    If you cared about the discussion you would post your opinion regardless.... NOT criticize them on HOW they wrote their post.

    I believe I did that. I'm sorry you feel that I'm not posting my opinion in the way you wanted me to.
    If you actually bothered to read the OP, half the issue is with the fact that TARG boards are Klingon... not just the fact that they circumstantially outperform boards of equal value. So it's not just about things becoming obsolete. However, I, or anyone else, shouldn't have to explain this to you since it was in the OP.

    Which is half the issue. I responded to the other half of the issue. I'm also okay with additional mini-powerboards with design aesthetics pleasing to various tastes. There, now I believe I've sufficiently posted my feedback to the whole of the issue.
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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    While I do agree with you (people with Targ H.O.G.'s shouldn't have a clear unfair advantage), saying "Agree with me or you're a Cryptic fanboy." is not a fantastic way to start a meaningful discussion on the topic.

    Or any discussion at all, really.

    The OP clearly just wants to call out the Devs (something which is forbidden by the forum rules, for exactly this reason), and I submit that the only answer he'd accept from them is "you're right, of course, we'll fix that right away, is there anything else we can do for you, sir?"

    I really don't care what you think!! I know that probably comes as a shock to you...but I really don't.

    It's not a shock at all, actually. Your attitude is entirely predictable, as is the response you are getting from your fellow players (this) and will get from the Devs (none whatsoever).

    I hope venting made you feel a little better, as that is the sum total of what you have and will accomplish(ed).
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  • gameversemangameverseman Member Posts: 1,110 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    Or any discussion at all, really.

    The OP clearly just wants to call out the Devs (something which is forbidden by the forum rules, for exactly this reason), and I submit that the only answer he'd accept from them is "you're right, of course, we'll fix that right away, is there anything else we can do for you, sir?"

    Although that is a bit extreme, BUT is that NOT the gist of what they are suppose to do anyways? Even so.... that's beside the point.
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    Or any discussion at all, really.

    The OP clearly just wants to call out the Devs (something which is forbidden by the forum rules, for exactly this reason), and I submit that the only answer he'd accept from them is "you're right, of course, we'll fix that right away, is there anything else we can do for you, sir?"

    and even if the devs would respond at all, why would they respond on a weekend?
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    and even if the devs would respond at all, why would they respond on a weekend?

    Because devs are immune to California Labor Laws. Developers are supposed to respond to the beck and call of angry people on the STO forums regardless of their personal lives, no matter what hour of the day or night.

    Waiting until Monday for a dev response (or the following week while they make decisions internally) is simply unacceptable when the outrage is this intense.

    No California Judge will see Cryptic in violation of established labor laws when the subject of virtual powerboards in a video game is brought to their bench.
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  • gameversemangameverseman Member Posts: 1,110 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I guess the mods (who are volunteers) have taken the day off as well because this thread has officially gone off-topic *golf-clap*

    *grabs popcorn*
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  • ensignswensonensignswenson Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    Or any discussion at all, really.

    The OP clearly just wants to call out the Devs (something which is forbidden by the forum rules, for exactly this reason), and I submit that the only answer he'd accept from them is "you're right, of course, we'll fix that right away, is there anything else we can do for you, sir?"




    It's not a shock at all, actually. Your attitude is entirely predictable, as is the response you are getting from your fellow players (this) and will get from the Devs (none whatsoever).

    I hope venting made you feel a little better.


    Yes...I do feel a little better. I'll feel even better yet when they fix this. But so sorry that I didn't know that it was against the rules to ask a Dev to respond, and frankly I don't care. If the mods don't like it then go right ahead and ban me. Look at my post count...do you really think not having the glorious privilege of posting here is going to affect my life?

    Bottom line is that they really screwed up the race this year in relation to the targ board. Either nerf the board or make a Fed and Romulan counterpart. It doesn't take a genius to understand that there is a problem and that the solution is fairly easy.
  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The boards are not Klingon. They are human, earth, 2015 Hill Valley issue. The Klingons just overpainted the pit bull with a targ as a thin disguise,

    Of course, a plain shocking pink mini board could have been done, but I hear those don't work on water. ;)
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Yes...I do feel a little better. I'll feel even better yet when they fix this. But so sorry that I didn't know that it was against the rules to ask a Dev to respond, and frankly I don't care. If the mods don't like it then go right ahead and ban me. Look at my post count...do you really think not having the glorious privilege of posting here is going to affect my life?

    Bottom line is that they really screwed up the race this year in relation to the targ board. Either nerf the board or make a Fed and Romulan counterpart. It doesn't take a genius to understand that there is a problem and that the solution is fairly easy.

    angry much. . Seriously calm down and remain civil towards the rest of the forums dude you want help or advice then you have gone the wrong way about getting it.

    If you simply want flames then carry on and wait for Trendy or Askray to close and Ban.

    Being so forwardly angry on here will get you no where.
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  • millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The Mods and CM's are busy with their personal lives so threads like this stay unlocked longer.
    Ray seems to have been pretty active this weekend.
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  • gameversemangameverseman Member Posts: 1,110 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    angry much. . Seriously calm down and remain civil towards the rest of the forums dude you want help or advice then you have gone the wrong way about getting it.

    If you simply want flames then carry on and wait for Trendy or Askray to close and Ban.

    Being so forwardly angry on here will get you no where.

    How exactly is this a productive post? Hell, how has any of these posts been productive. You all are ranting and ******** over your interpretation of the OP's tone rather than discuss what the OP is about.... you all claim the OP is just trying to start an uproar yet,if that were true, why contribute in this manner? Hypocritical much? Also, how's your bowl of fruit loops?
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Cryptic actually designed the Targ board to encounter more lag then the regular Superior boards, thus compensating for their speed with over & under achieved manoeuvers .





    ... it's working as intended ...
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Also for the fanboys who are sure not to agree with me...I'm right on this so I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK!!!!

    Then why post on a public discussion forum? Just PM a Dev as I'm certain if your views are sooo spot on; they'll[ not only be falling over themselves to reply, they'll offer you a job for being so levelheaded and insightful.:eek:
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  • christianmacchristianmac Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Im going to comment since you told me not too. As a recent ownter of the board in question I like it. I had the basic board till 2 days go......im enjoying actually winning. And too be honest ive blown groups out of the water but ive been beaten too......and the whole flag TRIBBLE.
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  • belidosbelidos Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I really don't care what you think!! I know that probably comes as a shock to you...but I really don't.

    Many of my colleagues would argue that you do infact care, otherwise you would not be professing your lack of caring so profusely 🙈🙉🙊
  • drazursouthclawdrazursouthclaw Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Yeah, well, I'd love cake.
  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh, i think i *farted* again !!!!!!!!

    in before the lock..............
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh, I Think I *farted* Again !!!!!!!!

    Tmi

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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    How exactly is this a productive post? Hell, how has any of these posts been productive. You all are ranting and ******** over your interpretation of the OP's tone rather than discuss what the OP is about.... you all claim the OP is just trying to start an uproar yet,if that were true, why contribute in this manner? Hypocritical much? Also, how's your bowl of fruit loops?

    The original post wasn't productive either. It was just an angry rant, one that happens to be against the forum rules. It's not going to get a response from the devs, or accomplish anything before the mods get around to locking it, except perhaps giving the forum regulars some entertainment and an opportunity to be snarky.

    The OP might as well have gone up on his roof and screamed at the sky, for all the good it will do. (Mainly providing catharsis.)
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