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Reddit - [A Wizard of STO Presents] Full Disclosure
hunteralpha84
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http://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/38onqh/a_wizard_of_sto_presents_full_disclosure/
Not sure if this violates TOS rules but I'm hoping it doesn't and if it does I am sorry it wasn't my intention. It's just a really interesting read and show's how far people will go to achieve DPS.
Not sure if this violates TOS rules but I'm hoping it doesn't and if it does I am sorry it wasn't my intention. It's just a really interesting read and show's how far people will go to achieve DPS.
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Lengthy read, but quite interesting. And now I know why those other dps channels suddenly showed up on my list.
Can't make it in the real world, has to hold onto something so trivial as a DPS score.
DPS parcers should be a GUIDELINE to see how well you're doing, they shouldn't be taken seriously however. And yes this drama really ought to be canned right now, it's getting old and I'm not interested at all in someone else's ego-stroking. Lot of good and decent people in those channels that don't give a hoot about readouts mind you.
Of course the problem is also that they parse ISA, a group environment, rather than a solo environment. You never get an accurate picture that way. DPS becomes dependent on group composition and the buffs and debuffs they bring. You could parse 30k one run, 15k the next solely because of the difference between groups. ISA also skews the picture towards beams over cannons due to its nature.
And in the end trying to get better builds results only in better ISA builds, sometimes fully dependent on the team. They don't translate to being useful in other places, like T1 torpedo boats.
And Askray is probably still asleep.
You are clearly doing it wrong.
I run ISAs with fleetmates often, and the results are always highly accurate to within less than 0.1%, if not completely identical, unless someone mucked up the combatlog, like you probably did.
This kind of drama and **** is why I despise DPS parsers and obsessions with DPS.
And why I prefer role players for company... Though there is a higher chance of being molested with rper :P
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I have to agree, but in a less...eloquent...manner
Its nice to know you are doing well (as some builds are deceptive, meaning parsing is the only real way to know its potential), but to do all that in the quest for bigger numbers and killing the (percieved) competition...my mind boggles.
Its a game, a empheral entity that has no meaning beyond the current and once its life ebbs away those vaunted records are for naught
Seriously, re-evaluate your lives
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The stealth kick and invites are way beyond shady.... How the **** do we have admins with ethics like this? They should be in Congress or working for the NSA/FBI/CIA/ Whitehouse like all the other shady people....
"Go play with your DPS in the corner, I don't care how big it is."
Jeez.....go out, get a girlfriend or a boyfriend. Pet some puppies, enjoy the summer, go to a party somewhere or whatever.....talk about taking a mediocre computer game too seriously.
It's kind of sad reading this actually, now I feel bad
Egostroking much? Honestly get over yourselves will you? Besides ISA and DPS parcers = fail to begin with people generally keep shooting the transformers and gate and it all gets added up, try doing a proper STF where DPS really comes into play like KASA, HSE etc. just stating that you're reading it up in ISA is info enough for me...
Cryptic needs to investigate these claims. If someone intentionally caused lag even on Tribble they need to be permabanned from STO and all MMOs...
Do explain where you came to that conclusion.
I pointed out that you weren't running the reader correctly, now you're on some childish rant about how deeps has ruined your life or something.
Boo-hoo.
I thanks you for the quintillion hitpoints mobs.
Enjoy. :rolleyes:
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Well, why would they care they are the prime reason cryptic is essentially shutting the most useful game modes (elites, home of salvage) to anyone who plays this game for, y'know...fun...when they have bigger bags of shield and hull to inflate their dps upon?
(in before the obvious, get gud and make a cookiecutter scimtar, nub! post)
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Deeps didn't ruin my life, I just don't like ego-stroking like the DPS stuff seems to promote. A good player isn't someone that clings on to his awesome DPS numbers like it's the most important thing in his/her life, a good player is someone that can easily adapt, listen to teammembers and most importantly be good both in space and ground. Do you need 75k DPS for that? No... but you need to get over your pretty parcer. I keep laughing at all the comments I hear about ISA being the best to test DPS etc. ok, let's say it is, what does it prove? Nothing... nothing at all. Will a player that pulls 50K in ISA be any good in HSE? Or anything else? We don't know. That's the entire point.
People shouldn't be judged by just their DPS, they should be judged by the way they're willing to play and if they're willing to learn listening to global input. I can tell you from actually being in the high up channels, you don't get any help at all in those, I've been lurking around there for a while and most of the time (not everytime) someone asks for help... oh do the math. Or your ship sucks get a better one like mine (see the problem?). Sure some ships are better fit then other for certain roles, doesn't mean that's all accurate. And like I stated before, the parcers aren't accurate enough to give a clear picture. It's a GUIDELINE. I am part of a channel that can do every bit of content with no trouble at all, are we all master players? No but we adapt where needed and we pick up on new stuff quickly.
So no, DPS didn't ruin my life, it's just part of it, it isn't the center of my ego like it is for many people.
So your logic is there was no Ebola epidemic since Ebola existed before?
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1. i dont trust technology
2. its a witchhunt due to the dubious accuracy.
3. if i can not rely on my own devices and thoughts, that creates a dependency.
4. its purely a cosmetic tool for the insecure to pull out numbers, as if cared one bit about such silliness.
how it took everyone so long to realize its the very thing that destroys the fun in a game of all things, but thats not my concern how it arrived at that or what everyone chooses to do afterwards.
this whole thing was a collosal waste of time from the start and i have never seen this go in any other direction then this one. end of story, can it and bury it. got better things to do then end up hooked on these things like drugs.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Well that and I have friends in some of those channels , and now more than ever it would have seemed like I would have been cluster bombing them along with the problematic "gamer" mentality of their channel owners / higher ups .
And also , let's face it ... , "I told you so" just doesn't quite cover it .
So while the Reddit post(s) and their replies are full of insights , I found myself surprised to be in agreement with ... half a proposal from @omegashoker , when he proposed that both sides destroy their channels .
Mind you he wanted to rebuild the DPS community , while I would have been happy to have those players back in ESTF & PESTF, and to see an end of this artificial segregation based on numbers -- and now metals .
... incoming clich
All things aside i don't necessarily disagree with the use of DPS parsers. Used correctly parsers can be a valuable tool in improving builds and testing the impact of specific consoles/gear.
The problem however is that a gaming subculture aggressively tried to become the main culture.
Phrases like "Only use DPS channels" and "Did you fail, that's your fault for using PUG" have been going around for some time and with it sabotaging the player base for PUG.
As the DPS channels became the new standard (or at least as they did from their own perspective) it was inevitable that excesses were bound to happen. Some of which displayed in the reddit topic.
I have no doubt that in order to promote DPS channels some people entered pugs with the sole purpose of sabotaging them.
Thus i share the previous stated opinions that the DPS channels should close shop. Those who wish to do high numbers runs can do so through their fleets and friend lists.
It's time to remove the divide between the DPS-channel and non-DPS channel crowds.