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WildStar Is Going Free-to-Play! LOL
basilrah
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I called this back when they were in Beta.
I asked them to allow players to use any race for any class.
They told me in a firm posting voice that they will never ever compromise their devs opinionated limits on things in game and that if I didn't like it there was the virtual door.
Which I took.
I wonder how those dev limits are feeling now and whether they are a good talking points while they search for further employment.
How will this effect STO if at all? Maybe some of their F2P ideas will be worth looking at?
I asked them to allow players to use any race for any class.
They told me in a firm posting voice that they will never ever compromise their devs opinionated limits on things in game and that if I didn't like it there was the virtual door.
Which I took.
I wonder how those dev limits are feeling now and whether they are a good talking points while they search for further employment.
How will this effect STO if at all? Maybe some of their F2P ideas will be worth looking at?
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This is one of the larger MMOs out there.
I'm hoping they have some good ideas STO can use.
The only thing that could ever have an impact on STO is another Star Trek game and there isn't a single one on the horizon.
Why is that?
There is more money in this way of doing things, if done correctly.
It is quite fun, love the player housing that I so wish sto would do but it is focused to 40 person raids and pvp at end game.
It is kinda fun tho, never takes itself seriously but I prefer sto.
I meant that they might do something new in their F2P that no one else has come up with.
It does happen, even in the current stagnant world of gaming.
Someone could bravely try something new instead of just copying existing stuff.
Why was STO? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
No one ever said STO was one of the "largest MMOs" before they went FTP.
Wildstar did last longer than I expected for a super uber hardcore raider only casuals need not apply game. I will give them that.
Yes Please! STO is known for a copy paste approach and I would never expect them to come up with something on their own.
I am aware of WoW, STO, SWTOR and Wildstar.
There are literally hundreds to choose from. If you do not see anything you like there hop over to Steam. I think they have about 4,000 games on their list.
Surely not a generic F2P space game lol
I did get to playtest Infinite Space at a convention a few years back before it died. It was a traditional top-down shooter. Not very exciting. I was also in Alien Domain's CB1 and CB2. I do not see it giving STO a lot of competition, but it is an OK game.
Their devs also are probably not allowed to form their own personal PvP Fleet and nerf everything else in game to serve said agenda.
Well not exactly .
In P2P games , Devs usually try to find some type of niche to set themselves apart , to say "this is the different experience you'll get with us , unlike the competition" .
In F2P games , Devs try to cast the widest net to appeal to the largest crowd possible , which in turn will include looking at other games for successful F2P models & activities (Lockboxes for example didn't start with STO) .
STO suffered a "dumbing down" that culminated in the "maximum 15 minutes" gaming strategy (AKA "coffee break gaming") , and the saturation of the game with different options for that experience .
This was a wide departure from the "raid" style content they had pursued before .
... but different games will take different roads ... , see SWTOR's "F2P" model ...
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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.... but that would take a Star Trek utopia to accomplish that....
... or will it?
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Is it really? I've honestly not heard anything about it, after that initial burst of "hey, look at this nifty new MMO they're creating / that just launched" articles. Way back whenever it launched. Not an ad, not an article, not a word since.
/shrug
So you are saying your knowledge of the MMO market is small... as is Wildstar.
Sorry its not a large MMO at all its small time. Based on there gross income I think people have estimated there launch subs at just under 200k. (most MMOs enjoy a very nice bump when they launch and normally loose 30-50% of those subs in the first few months)
The only MMO that has the population to support a MMO Sub model is WOW. Sad but true, and also why its the last remaining NON-F2P MMO around.
STO has always been a small MMO... I don't think at any point in the life of STO has it had more then 100k players.
A larger game that can be comapred to STO is EVE and it has held steady around the 150k mark for 8 or 9 years now.
In comparison Wow has been as high as 12+ million and right now I believe is sitting around the 7.5 million mark. (those are subs not just people logging in to a free game)
I am not sure if TOR has ever broken 2 mil or so and it has likely been the closes competition the last few years.
Here is the business model:
Release as a standard MMO with sub and entry cost.
Drain that pool of player dry of money.
Then switch to an f2p model, and milk whoever drives by.
This is nothing new. This was not a surprise.
We will see this again soon.
"Well, I think as 2014 comes to a close we can officially chalk Wildstar up as "most disappointing" MMO. Seriously, I don't think I've heard people as universally excited about an MMO since Guild Wars 2 or maybe even World of ********'s original launch. WildStar was at every trade show, it hit with high-scoring reviews, and then...it disappeared.
I mean, not really. You can go play WildStar right now—buy the game, pay for a subscription, et cetera. But the players are abandoning it, and with good reason. WildStar is a pain in the TRIBBLE to play. Leveling requires grinding. Accessing great content requires grinding. Everything is one long grind.
And while that's par for the course with many MMOs, WildStar's focus on "hardcore" players meant that few newcomers stuck around, and those that did found it even harder to get to any of the good content. I mean, look at this: Only approximately 1.3 percent of players have ever killed a raid boss. Ever.
Also, PvP is still completely broken thanks to a combination of timing-based combat and horrific lag/rubber-banding, and the game is riddled with bugs.
The result? As we close out 2014, WildStar is a shell of its former hype. 2015 prediction? Free-to-play.
"
So the thought of leaving one big long annoying grind for another long big annoying grind... something tells me Wildstar is going to have to do more then just go "free".
It's like some kind of right of passage these days .
It's like ppl will only give you a try if you are different , yet they dump you for that exact same reason in the end .
Weird .
... but at least they had a space goat (with headphones !) at the end of their F2P trailer . Where's our space goat Cryptic ??? Oh yeah , and NCSoft is involved with it, so there's a "reassuring" staple ...
Believing an MMO released into today's market will go F2P at some point is hardly a big act of clairvoyance.
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Second, there is ALREADY a thread about this in Ten Forward:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1457791
Third, I can actually prove I called this over a year ago. Where is your proof OP? :P
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