first of all thx 4 sharing. its intruiging design. the handmade drawing seems very accurate btw ^^
i think they ruined the ship by the stats and bo layout.
mixing pilot and sci ltcom is just baaaaad ... the good abilities of pilot and sci both sit at ltcom minimum. (well andor squad)
also 4/4 weapon. if its a warship it should really differ more from the dkora.
5/3 and therefore only 3 tac consolemods maybe. im just tired of not having enough forward facing potential in "warships" aft weapons are lame. you either have a minelauncher thats useless, or a aft torpedo thats never used.
the bo layout seems very strange to me. you either have pilot and no science. then you have a commander tactical, so you wont be able to slot any useful pilot, cause they ALL interfere with tactical stations. its dumb.
they should change the bo layout drastically. its contradictive and leads to many many overlapping shared cds.
the only abilities that dont interfere with tactical is squadron and the heals. and they are all locked behind ltcom/com to be useful.
nope sry that ship is wasted with that layout.
im for this:
5/3 weapons 4 tac,5sci 2eng consoles
bo:
1lteng
1ltcom tac/pilot
1lt tac
1lt uni
1ltcom sci
this way its granted that you dont have to many tac slots AND pilot slots. tac and pilot heavily interfere.
(lamda blocks beta/delta/omega etc - the firecycle haste blocks all beam mods like faw and bo)
the only not interfering abilities are fly apart/hold together and squad - while squad will interfere with gravwell if its located on the sci ltcom.
really really BAD bo layout choice. really.
it will be either flown like any **** escort - just with a useless bonus aft weapon slot
or you fly it as tac/pilot with heavy shared cooldowns and ruined sci capability.
Gotta disagree. It may be a little awkward at first glance with this sort of layout, but in practice that mixed layout made the old Chel Grett pretty good in its day for doing good damage, having just enough sci and engineering to be pretty rugged, and an extra offensive sci toy or two on top. Nandi looks to work the same way, only now you can your offensive sci for some pilot tricks if you like. For players looking for a well-rounded generalist ship, it should be a pretty good fit.
Gotta disagree. It may be a little awkward at first glance with this sort of layout, but in practice that mixed layout made the old Chel Grett pretty good in its day for doing good damage, having just enough sci and engineering to be pretty rugged, and an extra offensive sci toy or two on top. Nandi looks to work the same way, only now you can your offensive sci for some pilot tricks if you like. For players looking for a well-rounded generalist ship, it should be a pretty good fit.
I'd like to see how this would go on that ship:
TT1, BFAW2, BFAW3, APB3
TT1
EPTS1, ET2
EPTS1 or EPTW1
ST1, HE2, Form Up 1
The traditional bells & whistles of Single Array Beamboating, still having nasty APB3, but having Form Up 1 to further increase damage while flying in close proximity to an ally. Flying like that and using Form Up is far more feasible on this Ferengi ship than trying that ability on Pilot Ships, which really need to fly fast, and would be trickier to keep that close distance to an ally.
so you sacrifice gravwell for having pilot, for having pilot blocking your tac.
Personally, I'm fine with that. Last I saw, Grav Well was not required to be slotted. I'll use that LtCdr SCI for basic heals and damage increases, thank you very much. The 4 SCI Console slots? LOL! Embassy Flow Cap Consoles with the Plasma Explosions, x4, to feed my Plasmonic Leech as well as extra firepower.
I'd like to see how this would go on that ship:
TT1, BFAW2, BFAW3, APB3
TT1
EPTS1, ET2
EPTS1 or EPTW1
ST1, HE2, Form Up 1
The traditional bells & whistles of Single Array Beamboating, still having nasty APB3, but having Form Up 1 to further increase damage while flying in close proximity to an ally. Flying like that and using Form Up is far more feasible on this Ferengi ship than trying that ability on Pilot Ships, which really need to fly fast, and would be trickier to keep that close distance to an ally.
so the only pilot ability here is FORM UP 1 which im not sure is actually very useful hmmmm would grav well be much better suited and useful for regular and popular ques? . I wonder why have the pilot ability in the first place then?
so the only pilot ability here is FORM UP 1 which im not sure is actually very useful hmmmm would grav well be much better suited and useful for regular and popular ques? . I wonder why have the pilot ability in the first place then?
I edited my previous reply.
The idea is forgoing utility for more damage increases, more power levels. BFAW going, APB3 going, damage increase for Form Up1. Like I said, I'd like to see how that goes. Plasmonic Leech, 4 Embassy Flow Cap Consoles to feed it with the Plasma Explosions attached. Keep my energy levels high on top of the extra damage increase.
Edit: Form Up also buffs your targeted ally, not just you and lasts a good while at 20 seconds. So, I'd like to find that Scimitar and use Form Up with him with my 8 weapon slot escort.
It's an option for folks to use it if they want or not use it if they don't want. Just like any of the hybrid seats... /shrug
so effectively its just a "free" ship with a bit of flavor for what one can expect if you buy a pilot ship?
whats the actual draw to get the ship then? the trait ...... some synergy boosting properties for pilot ships? ..... the console ofcourse can only be used by the other ferengi ship so thats a small avenue of fun. oh well
ahh nice point.. just feels so "half way house" for a ship with pilot ability. Just make it an escort or a pilot ... why sit on the fence.
Because sometimes, a ship is supposed to be neither. It's its own thing.
The Nandi warship seems to be just that: a ship built for combat, that also seems to have the capacity to be fairly durable and maneuverable. Tougher than the average escort, with more firepower than a cruiser, and seems to even have decent enough Science/Pilot capability, too. All in all, an odd combo that will probably work out just fine for the people who are actually interested in the ship.
The Dyson Science Destroyers are Science Vessels...including the Science Mastery when taken to FT5U. Still don't know why STOwiki has them listed under Destroyers.
..... you literally just answered your own question.
The Dyson Science Destroyers are not just science vessels. You are overlooking the fact that they can shift into a Destroyer mode that effectively renders them as Escorts, by removing all their inherent science vessel abilities, rearranging their subsystem power boosts, and switching around BOff seating.
Like, I don't see how people don't get that. It's literally right there in the ship classification. Science Destroyer.
Oh well thanks for the info. Obviously this ship does not have the full potential of either the pilot or an escort but is creating its own and the dyson was really " successful" at that. ive learnt enough about it now. Hopefully it benefits my mains ships in some way ... Maybe the trait. Let's see.
..... you literally just answered your own question.
The Dyson Science Destroyers are not just science vessels. You are overlooking the fact that they can shift into a Destroyer mode that effectively renders them as Escorts, by removing all their inherent science vessel abilities, rearranging their subsystem power boosts, and switching around BOff seating.
Like, I don't see how people don't get that. It's literally right there in the ship classification. Science Destroyer.
What Starship Mastery does it have? Science Vessel. What kind of ship is it? Science Vessel.
It can go into a Tactical Mode. So what's the default mode? Science Mode. What kind of ship is it? Science Vessel.
There is no overlooking anything.
It's a Science Vessel that can go to Tactical Mode. It unlocks the DHC and loses the Secondary Deflector, LCdr Tac becomes Cmdr Tac, Cmdr Sci becomes LCdr Sci, +15 Aux becomes +15 Weapon, +Turn/Impulse/Inertia and -Subsystem Targeting/Sensor Analysis.
It's not a Destroyer that can go to Science Mode.
It's a Science Vessel that can go to Tactical Mode.
One can run a Dyson without ever going Tactical.
One can't run a Dyson without it ever being a Science Vessel.
Cause...it's a Science Vessel by default.
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I stand by what I felt when they were announced - that they should have been Destroyers that could go Science Mode instead of Science Vessels that could go Tactical Mode...or...they should have been given a less trollish name.
What Starship Mastery does it have? Science Vessel. What kind of ship is it? Science Vessel.
It can go into a Tactical Mode. So what's the default mode? Science Mode. What kind of ship is it? Science Vessel.
There is no overlooking anything.
It's a Science Vessel that can go to Tactical Mode. It unlocks the DHC and loses the Secondary Deflector, LCdr Tac becomes Cmdr Tac, Cmdr Sci becomes LCdr Sci, +15 Aux becomes +15 Weapon, +Turn/Impulse/Inertia and -Subsystem Targeting/Sensor Analysis.
It's not a Destroyer that can go to Science Mode.
It's a Science Vessel that can go to Tactical Mode.
One can run a Dyson without ever going Tactical.
One can't run a Dyson without it ever being a Science Vessel.
Cause...it's a Science Vessel by default.
So the Nandi is a science vessel that can go pilot mode/tactical mode? am i getting the drift right? and it will never have the best science or best tactical potential but will have an interesting separate ouvre/niche. What do you reckon the trait will provide ? will it do what the samsar did for command or will it be something entirely different.
That's a discussion of the Dyson Science Destroyers...not the Nandi Warship.
ah ok apologies im getting a bit confused about the actual relevance of this free nandi ship to other ships like the pilot or the escort. Im just a little confused that the samsar had something for command but the nandi may not have anything for the pilot.
seems like its a truly free ship... you can do with it want you want. No benefits to anything you may have acquired otherwise except the d'kora. Maybe the trait has something going for it.
So the Nandi is a science vessel that can go pilot mode/tactical mode? am i getting the drift right? and it will never have the best science or best tactical potential but will have an interesting separate ouvre/niche. What do you reckon the trait will provide ? will it do what the samsar did for command or will it be something entirely different.
That's a discussion of the Dyson Science Destroyers...not the Nandi Warship.
As far as i know there no information has been released about the ship class and stats, but there have been leaks about the console and trait.
Both seem to indicate at least a science heavy T6 vessel. If it will be a tactical vessel with bonus science or science with a tactical edge is not yet known.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
ah ok apologies im getting a bit confused about the actual relevance of this free nandi ship to other ships like the pilot or the escort. Im just a little confused that the samsar had something for command but the nandi may not have anything for the pilot.
seems like its a truly free ship... you can do with it want you want. No benefits to anything you may have acquired otherwise except the d'kora. Maybe the trait has something going for it.
The Aelahl Light Warbird Battlecruiser offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Andromeda Exploration Cruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Benthan Assault Cruiser offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Breen Sarr Theln Carrier offers a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Dauntless Experimental Class Science Vessel has a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser offers a LCdr Tac/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser (Command variant) offers a LCdr Sci/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser (Intel variant) offers a LCdr Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Guardian Cruiser offers a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Hazari Destroyer offers a Lt Tac/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Jem'Hadar Strike Ship offers both a LCdr Tac/Intel and a Lt Uni/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither an Intel nor Command ship.
The Kobali Samsar Cruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Mat'Ha Raptor offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Pathfinder Long Range Science Vessel has a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Vaadwaur Astika Heavy Battlecruiser offers a Lt Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Vaadwaur Manasa Assault Frigate offers a Lt Sci/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Xindi-Inectoid Olaen Heavy Escort Carrier offers both a LCdr Sci/Command and a Lt Tac/Pilot BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither a Command nor Pilot ship.
The Xindi-Primate Ateleth Dreadnought Cruiser offers both a LCdr Uni/Command and a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither a Command nor an Intel ship.
They're neither Command nor Intel ships. They're ships that just offer those particular hybrid seats.
The Nandi Ferengi Warship offers a LCdr Sci/Pilot BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Pilot ship.
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Meh, that looks more antagonistic than it was meant to be...was just meant to be informative.
As far as i know there no information has been released about the ship class and stats, but there have been leaks about the console and trait.
Both seem to indicate at least a science heavy T6 vessel. If it will be a tactical vessel with bonus science or science with a tactical edge is not yet known.
As mentioned earlier, you can view the stats of the ship on Tribble.
Go to a character that has access to the Event Store.
Have they officially done a blog? Nope, they haven't. Tribble subject to change? Yep, it is. But it's there for anybody with a toon that has the Event Store unlocked (anybody that's participated in an event) to take a look at.
The Aelahl Light Warbird Battlecruiser offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Andromeda Exploration Cruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Benthan Assault Cruiser offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Breen Sarr Theln Carrier offers a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Dauntless Experimental Class Science Vessel has a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser offers a LCdr Tac/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser (Command variant) offers a LCdr Sci/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser (Intel variant) offers a LCdr Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Guardian Cruiser offers a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Hazari Destroyer offers a Lt Tac/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Jem'Hadar Strike Ship offers both a LCdr Tac/Intel and a Lt Uni/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither an Intel nor Command ship.
The Kobali Samsar Cruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Mat'Ha Raptor offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Pathfinder Long Range Science Vessel has a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Vaadwaur Astika Heavy Battlecruiser offers a Lt Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Vaadwaur Manasa Assault Frigate offers a Lt Sci/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Xindi-Inectoid Olaen Heavy Escort Carrier offers both a LCdr Sci/Command and a Lt Tac/Pilot BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither a Command nor Pilot ship.
The Xindi-Primate Ateleth Dreadnought Cruiser offers both a LCdr Uni/Command and a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither a Command nor an Intel ship.
They're neither Command nor Intel ships. They're ships that just offer those particular hybrid seats.
The Nandi Ferengi Warship offers a LCdr Sci/Pilot BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Pilot ship.
Yes Virus you made your point but didnt the Koabli freebie have " Console – Universal – Regenerative Integrity Field (Kobali Samsar Cruiser)" that helped with the command ships? Does the Nandi have something to offer? like say --> ommand Platform Synergy (4 piece)
+Energy Weapon Damage
Upgrades Command Battlecruiser platform console abilities:
Defense Platform : Create a second Defense Platform
Fleet Support Platform: The platform will now also heal ally hull for a moderate amount in addition to regenerating shields
Tachyon Pulse Platform: Increases the range of the Tachyon Pulse beams from 5km to 10km
Yes Virus you made your point but didnt the Koabli freebie have " Console Universal Regenerative Integrity Field (Kobali Samsar Cruiser)" that helped with the command ships? Does the Nandi have something to offer?
The Samsar provides the 4th possible piece for the Command Battlecruisers.
The Sarr Theln provides a 3rd possible piece for the Breen ships.
The Sheshar provides a 3rd possible piece for Elachi ships.
The Benthan Assault and Hazari Destroyer provide for a 2pc for each other.
The Strike Ship provided a 3rd possible piece for the Jem'Hadar ships.
Can't remember if the Xindi boats did anything for one another or if the Vaadwaur did either.
Folks have asked people to hit up Tribble with a toon with a D'Kora to see if there is a possible 2pc set bonus from the D'Kora and Nandi consoles.
Ah well so the nandi gives that little extra for the dkora but not for pilot ships (at the moment) . Unlike the samsar that gave a bit of extra to the command ships.
probably because the pilot 3 piece already has :-->
Pilot Modification Synergy (3 piece)
+Cannon and Turret Weapon Damage
Improved Console Abilities
Spatial Sinkhole: Extends range of pull
Subspace Eddy: Leaves longer series of eddies
Microprojectile Barrage: Adds short disable to hits from microprojectiles
ph well lets hope the trait is fun. and for new players like me it would be a fun ship to fly and dare i say be competitive with.
Ah well so the nandi gives that little extra for the dkora...
Did not say that the Nandi gives anything for the D'Kora. Said that folks have asked people to take a toon with the D'Kora to Tribble to see if that's the case. It may not. Perhaps next Summer or even with the Winter Event there might be another...and maybe there will be a set bonus then. Who knows?
ahh nice point.. just feels so "half way house" for a ship with pilot ability. Just make it an escort or a pilot ... why sit on the fence.
The *real* Pilot Ships are the ones in the C-Store. And Pilot Ships are Escorts.
And the quick build idea I had isn't sitting on the fence. It's focused completely towards damage, and Form Up will help towards that, as well as getting someone else on the team to do even more damage with me nearby (example again of me using Form Up 1 on that Scimitar on my team that has a million buffs on it and has a clue on how to play).
If I went with Grav Well, I would really be sitting on the fence.
Cool. Crystal clear for now. Console synergy for Nandi and dkora .. no info. Any synergy with Nandi and pilot not clear. Good enough. Let's see what happens.
The *real* Pilot Ships are the ones in the C-Store. And Pilot Ships are Escorts.
And the quick build idea I had isn't sitting on the fence. It's focused completely towards damage, and Form Up will help towards that, as well as getting someone else on the team to do even more damage with me nearby (example again of me using Form Up 1 on that Scimitar on my team that has a million buffs on it and has a clue on how to play).
If I went with Grav Well, I would really be sitting on the fence.
Yep im sure you will have an awesome build. My command ship helps a lot with other peeps damage.... So does my pilot ship ... Just getting some early clarity on what the new freebie Nandi will help boost stats to..... A pilot/escort or the dkora or is it just a standalone freebie with an interesting mix of skills like the dyson was meant to be.
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i think they ruined the ship by the stats and bo layout.
mixing pilot and sci ltcom is just baaaaad ... the good abilities of pilot and sci both sit at ltcom minimum. (well andor squad)
also 4/4 weapon. if its a warship it should really differ more from the dkora.
5/3 and therefore only 3 tac consolemods maybe. im just tired of not having enough forward facing potential in "warships" aft weapons are lame. you either have a minelauncher thats useless, or a aft torpedo thats never used.
the bo layout seems very strange to me. you either have pilot and no science. then you have a commander tactical, so you wont be able to slot any useful pilot, cause they ALL interfere with tactical stations. its dumb.
they should change the bo layout drastically. its contradictive and leads to many many overlapping shared cds.
the only abilities that dont interfere with tactical is squadron and the heals. and they are all locked behind ltcom/com to be useful.
nope sry that ship is wasted with that layout.
im for this:
5/3 weapons 4 tac,5sci 2eng consoles
bo:
1lteng
1ltcom tac/pilot
1lt tac
1lt uni
1ltcom sci
this way its granted that you dont have to many tac slots AND pilot slots. tac and pilot heavily interfere.
(lamda blocks beta/delta/omega etc - the firecycle haste blocks all beam mods like faw and bo)
the only not interfering abilities are fly apart/hold together and squad - while squad will interfere with gravwell if its located on the sci ltcom.
really really BAD bo layout choice. really.
it will be either flown like any **** escort - just with a useless bonus aft weapon slot
or you fly it as tac/pilot with heavy shared cooldowns and ruined sci capability.
nope. bad layout.
Gotta disagree. It may be a little awkward at first glance with this sort of layout, but in practice that mixed layout made the old Chel Grett pretty good in its day for doing good damage, having just enough sci and engineering to be pretty rugged, and an extra offensive sci toy or two on top. Nandi looks to work the same way, only now you can your offensive sci for some pilot tricks if you like. For players looking for a well-rounded generalist ship, it should be a pretty good fit.
the old chel gret didnt went into shared cds.
im critizizing that 5 tac and 3 pilot will lead to heavy shared cd, unless pilot is "misused" for heals.
im not seeing any fun exchanging hazard2 with hold together1
you completely missed my point of critique here.
having pilot ruins your tac (shared cd between lamda/haste and beta/delta/omega and faw/bo)
using pilot ALSO will kill you sci up for pilot.
so you sacrifice gravwell for having pilot, for having pilot blocking your tac.
OR
you fly the ship without pilot - then its basically BS to implement a t6 free pilot ship ... make it intel/command or CHOICE.
I'd like to see how this would go on that ship:
TT1, BFAW2, BFAW3, APB3
TT1
EPTS1, ET2
EPTS1 or EPTW1
ST1, HE2, Form Up 1
The traditional bells & whistles of Single Array Beamboating, still having nasty APB3, but having Form Up 1 to further increase damage while flying in close proximity to an ally. Flying like that and using Form Up is far more feasible on this Ferengi ship than trying that ability on Pilot Ships, which really need to fly fast, and would be trickier to keep that close distance to an ally.
Personally, I'm fine with that. Last I saw, Grav Well was not required to be slotted. I'll use that LtCdr SCI for basic heals and damage increases, thank you very much. The 4 SCI Console slots? LOL! Embassy Flow Cap Consoles with the Plasma Explosions, x4, to feed my Plasmonic Leech as well as extra firepower.
so the only pilot ability here is FORM UP 1 which im not sure is actually very useful hmmmm would grav well be much better suited and useful for regular and popular ques? . I wonder why have the pilot ability in the first place then?
It's an option for folks to use it if they want or not use it if they don't want. Just like any of the hybrid seats... /shrug
I edited my previous reply.
The idea is forgoing utility for more damage increases, more power levels. BFAW going, APB3 going, damage increase for Form Up1. Like I said, I'd like to see how that goes. Plasmonic Leech, 4 Embassy Flow Cap Consoles to feed it with the Plasma Explosions attached. Keep my energy levels high on top of the extra damage increase.
Edit: Form Up also buffs your targeted ally, not just you and lasts a good while at 20 seconds. So, I'd like to find that Scimitar and use Form Up with him with my 8 weapon slot escort.
so effectively its just a "free" ship with a bit of flavor for what one can expect if you buy a pilot ship?
whats the actual draw to get the ship then? the trait ...... some synergy boosting properties for pilot ships? ..... the console ofcourse can only be used by the other ferengi ship so thats a small avenue of fun. oh well
Because sometimes, a ship is supposed to be neither. It's its own thing.
The Nandi warship seems to be just that: a ship built for combat, that also seems to have the capacity to be fairly durable and maneuverable. Tougher than the average escort, with more firepower than a cruiser, and seems to even have decent enough Science/Pilot capability, too. All in all, an odd combo that will probably work out just fine for the people who are actually interested in the ship.
Also.
..... you literally just answered your own question.
The Dyson Science Destroyers are not just science vessels. You are overlooking the fact that they can shift into a Destroyer mode that effectively renders them as Escorts, by removing all their inherent science vessel abilities, rearranging their subsystem power boosts, and switching around BOff seating.
Like, I don't see how people don't get that. It's literally right there in the ship classification. Science Destroyer.
What Starship Mastery does it have? Science Vessel. What kind of ship is it? Science Vessel.
It can go into a Tactical Mode. So what's the default mode? Science Mode. What kind of ship is it? Science Vessel.
There is no overlooking anything.
It's a Science Vessel that can go to Tactical Mode. It unlocks the DHC and loses the Secondary Deflector, LCdr Tac becomes Cmdr Tac, Cmdr Sci becomes LCdr Sci, +15 Aux becomes +15 Weapon, +Turn/Impulse/Inertia and -Subsystem Targeting/Sensor Analysis.
It's not a Destroyer that can go to Science Mode.
It's a Science Vessel that can go to Tactical Mode.
One can run a Dyson without ever going Tactical.
One can't run a Dyson without it ever being a Science Vessel.
Cause...it's a Science Vessel by default.
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I stand by what I felt when they were announced - that they should have been Destroyers that could go Science Mode instead of Science Vessels that could go Tactical Mode...or...they should have been given a less trollish name.
So the Nandi is a science vessel that can go pilot mode/tactical mode? am i getting the drift right? and it will never have the best science or best tactical potential but will have an interesting separate ouvre/niche. What do you reckon the trait will provide ? will it do what the samsar did for command or will it be something entirely different.
That's a discussion of the Dyson Science Destroyers...not the Nandi Warship.
ah ok apologies im getting a bit confused about the actual relevance of this free nandi ship to other ships like the pilot or the escort. Im just a little confused that the samsar had something for command but the nandi may not have anything for the pilot.
seems like its a truly free ship... you can do with it want you want. No benefits to anything you may have acquired otherwise except the d'kora. Maybe the trait has something going for it.
As far as i know there no information has been released about the ship class and stats, but there have been leaks about the console and trait.
Both seem to indicate at least a science heavy T6 vessel. If it will be a tactical vessel with bonus science or science with a tactical edge is not yet known.
The Aelahl Light Warbird Battlecruiser offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Andromeda Exploration Cruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Benthan Assault Cruiser offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Breen Sarr Theln Carrier offers a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Dauntless Experimental Class Science Vessel has a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser offers a LCdr Tac/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser (Command variant) offers a LCdr Sci/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser (Intel variant) offers a LCdr Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Guardian Cruiser offers a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Hazari Destroyer offers a Lt Tac/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Jem'Hadar Strike Ship offers both a LCdr Tac/Intel and a Lt Uni/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither an Intel nor Command ship.
The Kobali Samsar Cruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Mat'Ha Raptor offers a Lt Sci/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser offers a LCdr Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Pathfinder Long Range Science Vessel has a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's not an Intel ship.
The Vaadwaur Astika Heavy Battlecruiser offers a Lt Eng/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Vaadwaur Manasa Assault Frigate offers a Lt Sci/Command BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Command ship.
The Xindi-Inectoid Olaen Heavy Escort Carrier offers both a LCdr Sci/Command and a Lt Tac/Pilot BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither a Command nor Pilot ship.
The Xindi-Primate Ateleth Dreadnought Cruiser offers both a LCdr Uni/Command and a Lt Eng/Intel BOFF hybrid seat. It's neither a Command nor an Intel ship.
They're neither Command nor Intel ships. They're ships that just offer those particular hybrid seats.
The Nandi Ferengi Warship offers a LCdr Sci/Pilot BOFF hybrid seat. It's not a Pilot ship.
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Meh, that looks more antagonistic than it was meant to be...was just meant to be informative.
As mentioned earlier, you can view the stats of the ship on Tribble.
Go to a character that has access to the Event Store.
http://i.imgur.com/cJOfVFF.png
Go to the Account Reward Claim section of the Event Store.
http://i.imgur.com/Xz60mWe.png
Right click and select info on the Ferengi Warship.
http://i.imgur.com/CkCQfUN.png
Have they officially done a blog? Nope, they haven't. Tribble subject to change? Yep, it is. But it's there for anybody with a toon that has the Event Store unlocked (anybody that's participated in an event) to take a look at.
Yes Virus you made your point but didnt the Koabli freebie have " Console – Universal – Regenerative Integrity Field (Kobali Samsar Cruiser)" that helped with the command ships? Does the Nandi have something to offer? like say --> ommand Platform Synergy (4 piece)
+Energy Weapon Damage
Upgrades Command Battlecruiser platform console abilities:
Defense Platform : Create a second Defense Platform
Fleet Support Platform: The platform will now also heal ally hull for a moderate amount in addition to regenerating shields
Tachyon Pulse Platform: Increases the range of the Tachyon Pulse beams from 5km to 10km
The Samsar provides the 4th possible piece for the Command Battlecruisers.
The Sarr Theln provides a 3rd possible piece for the Breen ships.
The Sheshar provides a 3rd possible piece for Elachi ships.
The Benthan Assault and Hazari Destroyer provide for a 2pc for each other.
The Strike Ship provided a 3rd possible piece for the Jem'Hadar ships.
Can't remember if the Xindi boats did anything for one another or if the Vaadwaur did either.
Folks have asked people to hit up Tribble with a toon with a D'Kora to see if there is a possible 2pc set bonus from the D'Kora and Nandi consoles.
probably because the pilot 3 piece already has :-->
Pilot Modification Synergy (3 piece)
+Cannon and Turret Weapon Damage
Improved Console Abilities
Spatial Sinkhole: Extends range of pull
Subspace Eddy: Leaves longer series of eddies
Microprojectile Barrage: Adds short disable to hits from microprojectiles
ph well lets hope the trait is fun. and for new players like me it would be a fun ship to fly and dare i say be competitive with.
Did not say that the Nandi gives anything for the D'Kora. Said that folks have asked people to take a toon with the D'Kora to Tribble to see if that's the case. It may not. Perhaps next Summer or even with the Winter Event there might be another...and maybe there will be a set bonus then. Who knows?
The *real* Pilot Ships are the ones in the C-Store. And Pilot Ships are Escorts.
And the quick build idea I had isn't sitting on the fence. It's focused completely towards damage, and Form Up will help towards that, as well as getting someone else on the team to do even more damage with me nearby (example again of me using Form Up 1 on that Scimitar on my team that has a million buffs on it and has a clue on how to play).
If I went with Grav Well, I would really be sitting on the fence.
The Xindi Console set did get expanded by 2 for a grand total 4 set bonus.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9198513-xindi-terrestrial-lockbox-and-lobi-ships
T5 Xindi Escort and Carrier with their consoles from a few lockboxes ago. Now the new T6 Xindi Escort and Battlecruiser from the current lockbox.
Yep im sure you will have an awesome build. My command ship helps a lot with other peeps damage.... So does my pilot ship ... Just getting some early clarity on what the new freebie Nandi will help boost stats to..... A pilot/escort or the dkora or is it just a standalone freebie with an interesting mix of skills like the dyson was meant to be.
Heh, how about a fell off the fence and landed on my head build? :P
TT1, APB1, FAW3, APO3
KLW1
EPtS1, AtS1
EPtW1
HE1, TBR1, CI1
ST1, TSS2
Corrosive Plasma Array, Romulan Plasma Array, Omni-Directional Plasma Array, Kinetic Cutting Beam
Corrosive Plasma Blast Mine, Romulan Hyper-Plasma Torpedo, Experimental Romulan Plasma Array, Corrosive Plasma Array
5x Plasma Locators
Leech, C-RCS [Kin]
Assimilated, 0Point, Bounty Hunter's Friend, Rom Flow [Pla]
Iconian Deflector
Romulan Engine
Iconian Core
Iconian Shields
2x SRO for the Tacs, Hierarchy Pirate for one Sci, Diplo Nausicaan Pirate for the other Sci, and a Talaxian Engineer.
2x VR DCE for EPtX CD reduction
VR WCE for Cleanse Everything
VR TBO for Reverse TBR
VR SDO for BFI
VR PWO for Shield Power
30 Intel/15 Command
Beam Barrage, Intense Focus, Pattern Recognition, Momentum, Ablative Shell, Inspirational Leader, Elusive, Techie, Crippling Fire, Last Ditch Effort
Precise, Advanced Targeting Systems, Auxiliary Power Configuration - Offense, Radiant Detonation Matrix
Refracting Tetryon Cascade, Quantum Singularity Manipulation, Bio-Molecular Shield Generator, Deploy Sensor Interference Platform
Reciprocity, All Hands on Deck, Improved Pedal to the Metal, Supremacy
Ahh nice build for the freebie Nandi. Love the traits! no Nandi trait?
Mind the spacebergs!!!