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newplayerguy7
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Why hasn't someone (Cryptic or a Foundry author) done the obvious thing here and made a couple of missions based on this? lol
"Your insignificant band of Rebels is no match for the might of the Empire"
"Your insignificant band of Rebels is no match for the might of the Empire"
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And really, shouldn't this have been posted be in 10 Forward or at least the Foundry Subforum?
There's only one faction, and it's barely a faction (hence some references to it as a "fraction"). You can't play in an RSE or Tal'Shiar faction, because it doesn't exist. You can RP it, sure, but the only playable Romulan faction in STO from the perspective of game mechanics is the RRF (that stands for Romulan Republic Forces or Republican Romulan Forces, depending on who you ask).
As for an all-out effort, they tried that, with their usual overzealous stupidity of "kill them all, because 'loyal' Romulans should be more than willing to die for the 'security' of the Star Empire." That's what the attacks on Virinat and Crateris and Rhi (and other Romulan colonies) were about. It didn't take too long from that to the point at which Hakeev was shot in the face on Brea and Sela was carted off by the Iconians, which only resulted in more turmoil inside the already-decadent and dying Star Empire.
Now (2410) the RSE and/or Tal'Shiar is/are merely a vestige of what it/they once was/were (I'm still unconvinced by Sela's rhetoric and attempts to convince me with possibly staged encounters that the RSE and the Tal'Shiar have gone their separate ways); were they to attack in force now, they would be wiped out with little effort. The writing has been on the wall for a long time, even if some refuse to read it: the RSE is a crumbling heap of rubble and dead minds. There may be factions within the RSE (and in fact, that's highly probable, with various warlords fighting over the scraps left after Sela was ... kidnapped? captured? rescued? ... by the Iconians), but the notion that the Tal'Shiar would completely abandon the RSE is a bit hard to swallow.
So, they had their chance, they took it, they blew it, and then they got their butts handed to them -repeatedly- by the Republic as well as the Republic's Federation and Klingon allies to the point that they now are reduced to what appears to be most of one sector and part of another, with the Republic constantly gaining new territory as Romulan and Reman worlds are liberated from RSE and Tal'Shiar tyranny and terror.
Pretty much why I haven't yet bothered to give us that Foundry mission I want to write that affords Romulans the chance to kill the Undine imposter who took T'nae's place ...
Or something like that.
But yeah, I want to design as a Romulan for Romulans, and until that is possible, I doubt seriously that I'll be making any efforts to compose Foundry missions.
Thank you, but I'm not a "sir." ahr'nviahr arhem. I am a woman.
I think the "rebels vs empire" thing was pretty much just played out in the Legacy of Romulus Rom character missions. Although agree that more separation between the RSE and Republic and their territory would be nice.
Perhaps the Iconian arc will introduce the idea that whatever remains of the RSE as a state (presumably with Sela as it's head?) will tenuously join the the alliance against the iconians? This would make sense from a story perspective if Sela offered their services in exchange for an amnesty over her crimes, recognising the RSE as a viable territory and entity, and perhaps a neutral zone between the RSE and the republic? (although I would imagine they would also demand lots of republic systems be returned to them).
Not even that. The RSEs territory on the map is represented by a shade of green (the same used by disruptor weapons) that now exists only around Romulus. The rest of Romulan territory is shaded the plasma green used for the Republic.
Most of their leet was not destroyed by the Klingons. It was either destroyed in assorted schisms an civil wars, or defected to the Republic.
And finally, Hassan was only set up on Nimbus, which was never a Romulan planet. It was (and is) a neutral world with settlers from multiple powers.
That's one thing I very much wonder. Of the seemingly RSE area of space, who actually holds control there? Is it the Imperial Remnant, or the Tal'Shiar? Is there a serious separation between those two, where there are actually competing interests and governing bodies?
In particular, who is sitting in the new Imperial Senate on Rator III? It's obviously not Sela at the moment. So is it her immediate subordinate in the Imperial government, and if so does that subordinate have a handle on the Tal'Shiar? Or is it that the Tal'Shiar is so powerful that their own people are dominating the Senate to the point that they 'own' Rator?
Lots of questions, most of which I expect will be answered as the Iconian War continues, as Sela's story arc is closed, and as the remaining details of the Tal'Shiar's involvement with the Iconians is exposed.
Hakeev was leader, yeah. Last known leader was Ruul.
Just like to point out, Rator is Republic territory now. IN sector space, iot has the Republic's plasma green color under it.
Hmm, that'd be an interesting twist.
I've said this before in another thread, but Rator is in a terrible strategic location. It was always right on the border with Fed space. And now it's along the shaky border between the RSE and Republic.
Hakeev was indeed the leader of the Tal Shiar. How a Colonel is in charge of an organization as big as the Tal Shiar is another idiotic point, but that's another thread altogether.
Traditionally there is a council its leader is a part of but with Shinzon zapping the Senate and the stability issues since, the Tal Shiar literally were on their own program with no oversight, regardless of the aims of the Empire.
The RSE that we see now in STO is not the same, stable RSE from the TV shows that had a Senate having oversight, control, and stability. Sela and Hakeev needed each other for their own ends but even Sela could not reign in Hakeev when his **** got too far out of hand. The Tal Shiar and whoever leads it is literally alone. It's not friendly with what remains of the RSE. And it definitely is not friendly with the Romulan Republic and its allies, the Federation and Klingon Empire.
Tal Shiar leadership had catastrophically failed the service itself, the Romulans that composed the Empire, and the very Empire it was to defend. And it seems Hakeev's replacement is intent on keeping it that way.
There is a Rihan word used in the military, "rekkhai," which is a military form of address to a superior officer, and can be translated as "sir" or "ma'am." I've asked a few times for my fleet personnel to address me not as "ma'am," but "rekkhai," but mostly they call me "Fvillhu" or "Praetor," with some of the longtime people in the Raenasa galaen (High Command of the Fleet) calling me "Gessa" or "t'Prell" (and two calling me "ri'Nanov," my daughter and my adopted daughter).
At this point, I think it's too late for Sela to start making overtures of peaceful coexistence, and I doubt anyone with much sense would trust her to honor any treaty she signed with the Republic.
Besides, I want to kill her. Her execution is overdue, for her many crimes against peace, crimes against Romulanity and Remanity, and failure to properly discharge command responsibility. Unfortunately, the Devs seem to want to tell some story with her, so I will have to bide my time till that story is told, and then I had better be able to kill her. Some will object that that will make me judge, jury, and executioner. Some should remember that she had her chance for a trial and all but admitted her guilt of any charge which would have been brought against her by escaping captivity to stir more TRIBBLE (and of course she also stirred TRIBBLE by the method used for her escape, once again violating the free will of someone she claims to be doing everything for).
Thus, OFF WITH HER HEAD!
*orders a wall mount for the trophy* Maybe I'll just leave that in my ready room, so as not to scare casual allies visiting Tal'Diann Starbase G-14. Then again, the Fed allies can't visit that particular starbase, and I doubt the Klingons would be too bothered by it ...
Don't forget the woad and jar of honey.
Paenhe! Don't give away state secrets!
I'm sure it will only enhance your reputation when Sela finds out. :P
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One wonders if the post-war climate will level the field against the RSE and the Republic, leading to a renewed conflict (and resolution).
The way I see it. The same way Dukat after taking control of Cardassia preferred the term Gul. or how irl Khaddafi though running a country liked to be called a colonel.
If you are in charge and have little to no oversight. You can demand whatever rank you choose.
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After having read the Tales of the War it is clear there is growing discontent on New Romulus. A lot of people, myslef included, believe that D'Tan is not the man we need as our leader. We left Vulcan because we didn't feel the ways of Surak were for us. D'Tan is feels a little too much like Surak for my taste. Which is why I allfied with the KDF. It is time to go back to our martial roots. The old senate failed us. Sela failed us. D'Tan failed us. The time to build a new Empire has come!
Good point, forgot about Khaddafi's insistence on keeping the rank of Colonel. Same deal with Dukat.
Rator III - Nova Roma was of course second most populated planet in RSE and seat of power Sela's forces. She has a lot of millions inhabitants. And she is still capitol of RSE, no matter on colors on the map, where some shades of green used for the relics of Hobus supernova and Great bloom (pollution from the explosion of Scimitar).
But as somebody here said, IMHO Rator III is in not so good strategic position, she is too close Federation space, only some several LY. Probably she has more economic importance. But the same as f.e. Cardassia.
No, we left Vulcan to remain free (this is confirmed several times in the in-game lore as well as various novels which were inspirations for STO lore). Followers of Surak were among those who left and made the Journey. It wasn't the ideals of Surak, which constituted a philosophy; it was the efforts of the Vulcan establishment to turn Surakian Philosophy into a religion and force conformity to the orthodoxy they were pushing, which wasn't even consistent with what Surak taught. Surak taught Kol-Ut-Shan, which is "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations." Had the Vulcan establishment been faithful to that ideal, there would never have been any need for us to leave, because dissent would not have been viewed as a threat.
Martial roots? We are warriors, yes, but this idea that Romulans are sabre-rattling warmongers is more consistent with those who follow the Way of D'Era, established by Tellus, a warlord. His followers were "the Children of Ket-Cheleb" (Ket-Cheleb is the old Vulcan God of War). Tellus was by no means the only leader of the several different groups who left Vulcan on the Journey. And the Way of D'Era is by no means the only religion, sacred tradition, or philosophy held by Romulans and Remans. S'Task was a former student of Surak who was convinced of the error of Surak's teachings of non-violence by a dose of reality. He and Surak remained friends, and Surak is the one who gave the last Three Swords of S'harien to S'Task when the ships were readying for departure.
Of course the colors on the map matter. The Republic and Federation surround Rator on all sides. They been fighting a WAR. Rator is very clearly now within the Republic, both on the galaxy map and in sector space. It was taken. Without anything aobut the results of hte war, its the most logical conclusion. IN a similar vein, if the RSE made a resurgence, and it's terrirtory suddenly surrounded New Romulus on all sides, with not Republic color, I would assume that Mol'Rihan has been taken.
Colonel's traditionally on Earth a commander of a regiment - it could be historical from when the Tal Shiar wasn't quite so dominating, or as a lie to the 'standard' forces that the Tal Shiar is less powerful.
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