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Hi LaughingTrendy Please squash rumour ship/weapon CritD is being capped.
erikosss
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Hi LaughingTrendy
I heard a rumour online that cryptic is considering capping ship/weapon CritD to 200.
I was hoping you could "squash it" and confirm its not true.
As a owner of CritDx4 space weapons (80mill each) I really hope this rumour is not true.
I guess I shouldn't be listening to rumours but cryptic does seem to have a record for making unpopular decisions.
Thanks.
I heard a rumour online that cryptic is considering capping ship/weapon CritD to 200.
I was hoping you could "squash it" and confirm its not true.
As a owner of CritDx4 space weapons (80mill each) I really hope this rumour is not true.
I guess I shouldn't be listening to rumours but cryptic does seem to have a record for making unpopular decisions.
Thanks.
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I believe these rumors are being built upon an off-handed remark I made long ago regarding doing something similar for PvP Maps Only, way back when we were discussing potential changes to Surgical Strikes.
Allow me to state, for the record, that we have no intentions at this time to impose any sort of cap (hard or soft) on Critical Severity ratings.
There's always that tiny, distant chance that our intentions on something like this could change at some point in the future. But if such a change were to ever come to pass, we'd be sure to communicate it to the playerbase.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
But, but...you clearly said 200 CrtD was a reasonable amount! More than that would be unreasonable! :P
JOKING...JOKING...JOKING...heh, but that's likely the post that somebody probably read while half-asleep, intoxicated, and with dust in their eye to have thought you were saying anything about capping.
Those pvp changes ...are they coming soon?? In other words were the plans scrapped or are you still working on them etc.etc.
^^ This I like. Straightforwardly asked, straightforwardly answered.
Thanks for the clear cut answer, Bort.
Any chance you could shine some light on those "PvP Maps Only" effects? It would do a great deal to alleviate a lot of PvP concerns (insanely high CrtH/D, PartGen damage, etc) that don't translate well over to PvE due to the massive difference between player and NPC hulls. It would also leave abilities unaffected for PvE for all to enjoy there.
The short answer is that many members of the PvP community didn't agree with this idea, nor a few other tweaks we'd tossed around (like big HP buffs for players on PvP maps, e.g.) ... and since no such changes would be easy/simple to make, we've pretty much back-burnered the concept until we can come up with something that PvPers agree would improve matters.
This discussion should probably be moved to the PvP subforum if you have further questions.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
As much as you may try to pretend there isn't...there is PvP in this game.
Do you really need OP stuff to survive PvE...that's player error...
When the NPC's come on the forums asking for things to be nerfed, then we'll talk. :rolleyes:
So in other words "Nah nah nah nah...we're OP and that's the way we like it?"
Having problems breaking 30k without OP powers?
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one" :rolleyes:
Define 'Overpowered'
After all, NPC's don't really care how fast we kill them... I'm less interested in HP bags however, and more in actually having to form strategies. So I'm enjoying the new level of complexities the latest enemy groups are adding.
P.S. I find it hilarious you accuse me of abusing what you consider 'broken' powers whenever the DPS channels have been do it forever. Every time something is 'fixed' they have to reset all the DPS channels.
just for the sake of argument, how hard would it be for everyone's weapons to be set to leveless grade wile in a pvp match?
still think thats has the best chance at effecting positive change, because
-none existent gear mark wall of entry to pvp, rarity would still mater though
-across the board baseline for damage is the ideal place to try to balance from, instead of anything between mk 12 and mk 14.
-pre dr levels or weapon damage, + all the post DR crit and clicky creep, should balance out to feel more like decent pre DR pvp
Lol, since PvP players can't agree on anything, we're doomed.
Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing!
Why would we try to have a conversation in that echo chamber.
No more doomed than anybody else. Remember the arguments over the Lobi Cats...cause folks wanted Lobi Dogs?
And the pve players can? No one agrees on anything around here!
Least in PvP you can play different people...how is PvE anything but that? You kill the same mobs under the same script over and over again :P
Not true! I do not agree with you...wait a second?
I hate to say.. waiting for pvpers to agree on anything.. well you heard of phrase "till hell hath froze over."
You would be better of just doing the changes and see how things land.
Power creep is always going to be a issue in pvp.. and people who built their ships to instant vap people in pvp are not going to be happy with any type of change that will effect that.
So I say..just do the planed changes and see how the chips fall.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/santiago-onta%C3%B1%C3%B3n/4/37b/a7
https://www.linkedin.com/in/manishmehta2
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Ashwin's got a PhD from Yale.
Santiago's got a PhD from the Autonomous University of Barcelona.
Manish's got a PhD from Georgia Tech.
But uh, what games have they been involved in?
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Got any papers or the like from guys like this?
https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemark
https://www.linkedin.com/in/steverabin
You provided a link to a paper from a few smart guys....that don't work in the industry.
What point did I miss?
Whatever came of the projects from that paper, yeah?
What point did I miss?
And how is asking you to drop out stuff from folks actually working in the industry missing the point on a discussion of AI?
Now that's something I'm missing...
Ah...the quick edit.
What is so wrong about that? Well, it's subjective...no? What might be good for you might not be good for another, eh?
With the complaints around here, folks don't even want bad AI - they'd likely prefer no AI.
Ever see that episode of King of the Hill titled Good Hill Hunting? That's what a lot of folks around these parts want...
Do you not understand that the paper would have more value...had the ideas mentioned in it...actually led to something? As is...it's theoretical fluff. PhDs that pontificate on things are a dime a dozen. Folks that make things work...
...it's a question of credentials.
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And another quick edit there...
People need to learn to communicate something if they expect people to read anything of it or comprehend it.
You start of with folks tend to have a pretty routine day with little difference.
It's not their fault they design bad NPCs...who is they? Well, there are two they there. One they or two they?
Good AI...bad AI...subjective, no? Also...kind of making assumptions, no?
Back in the day gaming used to be good - it's no longer good. That's subjective...it's your opinion.
The belief being that the reason games are not as good these days is because of a lack of focus on AI. Again, that's subjective, no?
You've got a brother in the military, who from the sounds of it is involved in the development of training simulators, eh?
And you finish by insulting that the guy knows nothing about AI - by once again stating your opinion that it's about AI, right?
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So let's step back to the discussion earlier, yeah?
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...said to another poster, but you offered the following reply...
...which is curious - given that one of the reasons folks often talk about PvP is because it is dynamic - yet you're painting it as something that is static and does not change?
...course they mention that in their reply...
...then we get your reply, again with multiple edits....
And that last line...you know what you're talking about? What are your credentials?
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So basically, you've said that PvP is boring because it is always the same - and - if games had better AI, then it would never be the same...while saying you know what you're talking about.
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So er...well...yeah...
I want everything easy? I said that where? You talk about people not reading what you've said? That's kind of curious.
But again...what you linked...means diddly squat. Hence the reason I asked for you to link some decent material from people actually in the industry that know what they're talking about...
...but er - yeah - you've gone off on some delusional ramble that has little to do with anything anybody has said while saying nobody is reading what you're saying.
You're trying to pull of some appeal to authority while assuming everybody else around you is clueless...
...would you really expect anybody to do anything but /facepalm you in response?
Maybe they're using a finite state machine with a hierarchy of atomic and composite goals while dealing with various logic checks to transition states as they attempt to complete those goals.
There are all sorts of things in play - whether they're pathing, acting aggressively, defensively, or the like - they're not just sitting their grabbing their ankles, as much as it may appear that they are just grabbing their ankles to some players.
Could be a behavior tree...could be all sorts of things. A FSM would make sense though...but who knows, eh? Well, they know...heh.
Have to keep in mind the intended audience for the game, yeah?
Think about the various complaints that have come about when they've tried to make the NPCs smarter, use more abilities, work better together, or the like...forums flood - harsh flood.
There most definitely is AI in play...an AI designed to provide some entertainment for the intended audience.
the answer by borticus was very straight forward so /closed.
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