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Console-Universal-Sustained Radiant Field Mk XII buffs weapons only 1.6%

wen1503wen1503 Member Posts: 156 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
Console - Universal - Sustained Radiant field provides 20% buffs to hull and shield heals and 10% to all weapon damage.

Tested in Sol system - well away from the station and other people. Confirmed that hull heals and shield heals work as advertised - almost exact Direct 20% buff out to 4 decimal places. Tested Engineering team and Hazard Emitters. Tested Emergency power to shield and science team. Equipment doesn't make a difference to the console...zero diminishing returns...

Weapons are another story...

Tested Beam arrays, kinetic cutting beam and two tropedos

Beams were boosted 1.647%
Torpedos boosted 1.97%
Kinetic Cutting 2.2%

Very different results on different weapons.

I tested with Tactical consoles on and off. Tested withe deflector, engine core and shields on and off. Tested with Traits on and then stripped all personal, ship and space traits. The numbers changed a minor amount...three decimals down. For all intents the same. The buff is a direct buff....but only 1.6% to 2.2% dependant on the weapon.

Decimal places have to be off....I stripped as bare as possible so any funky math would not cloud the issue.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    That would explain why I didn't see much of an increase in my dps
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Sounds like it's a Strength boost, not a Bonus boost (er or Cat1 and not Cat2, depending on what you call them).

    Would probably see the same boost from slotting a Common Generic Mk VII Tac Console then for comparison and verifying the kind of boost it is.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    Sounds like it's a Strength boost, not a Bonus boost (er or Cat1 and not Cat2, depending on what you call them).

    Would probably see the same boost from slotting a Common Generic Mk VII Tac Console then for comparison and verifying the kind of boost it is.

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  • wen1503wen1503 Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Virus....without any tac consoles or any equipment buffing weapons...it still buffed only 1.6% on beams. It's not even as big a buff as the Mk VII generic console you spoke of....

    It's really broken - weapons damage wise...it buffs heal for hull and shield a direct 20%. No matter how many buff consoles those have.

    It's not wai...
  • themetalstickmanthemetalstickman Member Posts: 1,010 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Is it buffing only base damage? That would be a far smaller amount than buffing total damage.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    wen1503 wrote: »
    Virus....without any tac consoles or any equipment buffing weapons...it still buffed only 1.6% on beams. It's not even as big a buff as the Mk VII generic console you spoke of....

    It's really broken - weapons damage wise...it buffs heal for hull and shield a direct 20%. No matter how many buff consoles those have.

    It's not wai...

    There is still going to be the weapon itself and the skills the player has.

    For example (rough example)...

    Beam Array Base Damage: 100

    9 Starship Weapon Training: 49.5
    9 Starship Energy Weapons: 49.5
    Mk I-XII: 120
    Mk XIII: 40
    Mk XIV: 70
    UR: 10
    Gold (including the Dm): 10
    Accolade: 2

    125 Weapon Power: *2.5

    (no traits/etc in play)

    (100 + 351) * 2.5 = 1127.5 DPV


    So now we add in the +10%...

    Beam Array Base Damage: 100

    9 Starship Weapon Training: 49.5
    9 Starship Energy Weapons: 49.5
    Mk I-XII: 120
    Mk XIII: 40
    Mk XIV: 70
    UR: 10
    Gold (including the Dm): 10
    Accolade: 2
    Radiant: 10

    125 Weapon Power: *2.5

    (no traits/etc in play)

    (100 + 361) * 2.5 = 1152.5 DPV


    1152.5 / 1127.5 = 1.022

    So that person would have seen a 2.2% increase from the +10%.

    The amount of the increase is going to depend on what's involved. Work in all sorts of other things and it is going to vary. Boosts from Ship Mastery, Console Boosts, Set Boosts, etc...

    One will only see the actual +10% if they've got nothing else. TRIBBLE/Mk 0 Weapon, with no skill, no accolade...they'd go from 100 to 110 and see the 10%.
  • wen1503wen1503 Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If it's buffing base mark 1 damage by 10 percent before skills...that's just lying with statistics. The heals buff 20 percent directly, regardless of other consoles.

    I want to believe someone dropped a decimal or the weapon buff should not even be listed it's so small. This kind of error just causes players to bad mouth devs or blame them for bait and switch.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    wen1503 wrote: »
    If it's buffing base mark 1 damage by 10 percent before skills...that's just lying with statistics. The heals buff 20 percent directly, regardless of other consoles.

    I want to believe someone dropped a decimal or the weapon buff should not even be listed it's so small. This kind of error just causes players to bad mouth devs or blame them for bait and switch.

    It's just like a Tac Console that gives +10%...the +10% it gives is only to the base damage. Most things are only buffing that base damage.

    2pc KHG/AMACO is +25% to base torpedo damage.
    2pc Predator/Nukara is +7.6% to base.
    2pc Jem? Yep.
    2pc Temporal? Yep.

    The Starship Mastery boosts are Strength (base) boosts. Tac Consoles, Skills, AMP...whole bunch of things.

    There are things which are Bonus boosts from gear though. 2pc T'varo is a Bonus boost. 2pc Fluidic's +7.5% for Phasers/Disruptors is a Bonus boost. Those work like APO, APA, TacFleet, Emergency Power to Weapons, the T4 Nukara Auxiliary Power Configuration Offense, 2pc Ancient's +10% boost to AP....etc, etc, etc.

    As for the healing, it's going to be a different kind of formula (jarvisandalfred would be able to better answer that than me), so it may work in a completely different fashion.
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