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We've shown you how to defeat ISA with only pets, and without using any abilities... now Ryan shows another way; clearing ISA solo.

Galaxy Class Solo VS ISA


I really wish all these players would stop logging onto the forums and posting to complain about the lag. If there really was an issue with the lag there would be all these players logging onto the forums to post complaints about the lag.
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    1 player (in a non-DPS oriented ship) can handle an ISA on his own, but 4 pugs can't.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    1 player (in a non-DPS oriented ship) can handle an ISA on his own, but 4 pugs can't.

    The build's linked in the "show more" part of the video.

    http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=ryanstossologalaxy1_0

    There are some interesting choices in that build, but that comes down to his experience and piloting ability - something folks need to keep in mind if they're thinking copy-pasta unless they're a recent clone of his...heh.
    deokkent wrote: »
    I hope devs are embarrassed of themselves lol.

    Ryan's picture is in the dictionary next to outlier.

    Now, if a goofball like me was able to do that...then they would probably be applying to be a fry cook. But Ryan's Ryan...
  • captainpugwash1captainpugwash1 Member Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I think you lot should take over the DEVs jobs, you no more about the game than they do......:)
  • captainpugwash1captainpugwash1 Member Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I really wish all these players would stop logging onto the forums and posting to complain about the lag. If there really was an issue with the lag there would be all these players logging onto the forums to post complaints about the lag.

    Lag, NO, its a new evasive maneuver trait,,,,,,:)
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited May 2015
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  • cepholapoidcepholapoid Member Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I just don't understand why people refuse to acknowledge the MASSIVE lag in game. I mean it's everywhere, go into an STF, any PvP match, kerrat, you name it, everyone I talk too experiences the lag to some extent.
    If you don't experience it, well then you are one lucky SOB, but it's fairly obvious that it is not just an isolated issue, otherwise there wouldn't be so many people complaining about it.
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  • unsacredgraveunsacredgrave Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I think they should make a map for very high dps players. something like "extreme" difficulty. but in general this game needs some balance... it shouldnt be possible that 1 player alone can finish a team-mission. thats absurd. its not intended to be a solo mission, it should require team-work.

    besides that, soloing infected space is nothing new. just enter "ise solo" in the youtube search and you find lots of videos.there are even more runs...like without shields, with t3 ships, with 4-player teams, speed runs, and truck loads of other things to make easy content challenging.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I think they should make a map for very high dps players.

    A start would be simply adding the missing the Elite versions of various queues that are lacking an Elite version.

    Though, I've got a tinfoil hat lingering around that still suspects they didn't do that for some of them because they're likely going to do a revamp or just remove them.
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I noticed the cut, and splice,on the ship splosion job.

    So if I call BS, on that being a legit STF,is it unfair? :confused:
  • rickdankorickdanko Member Posts: 470 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Awesome video. Loved the variants on the TNG and DS9 themes. But...Hill Street Blues? Hawaii 5-0? lol :D

    What CD did you get the themes from?
    They're not really gone, as long as we remember them
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    Plasma Nugget
    Rayzee
    excellentawesome#4589
    torgaddon101
    raeat

    I'm allowed to disagree.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    A start would be simply adding the missing the Elite versions of various queues that are lacking an Elite version.

    Though, I've got a tinfoil hat lingering around that still suspects they didn't do that for some of them because they're likely going to do a revamp or just remove them.

    Well, as (I think it was) Geko once stated: We have to much PvE in this game, eh^^
  • j0hn41j0hn41 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Played the music, got my hopes up and everything, and yet he didn't crash into the planet! Was disappointed.

    Very entertaining regardless.
  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    RyanSTO you're such a show off. "Stands" and gives the man a standing ovation. :P

    Now for the rest of us time to shut up about STF's being too hard. If one man can solo it, be it the god of DPS himself, then surely not shirley 5 of us together can beat it.

    Well done old chap
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    1 player (in a non-DPS oriented ship) can handle an ISA on his own, but 4 pugs can't.

    the reason: how much has cost his build?

    TBR boff -> at least 28 mil ec
    lobi store consoles -> too expensive
    kemocite weapon skill -> too expensive
    crtdx4 beams -> i don't want to know the cost
    etc etc

    please stop to denigrate pugs, a lot of players do what they can and don't/can't put tons of real money in this game.

    Ryan is a very good player, but don't compare him to the others. thx
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,565 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    "I really wish all these players would stop logging onto the forums and posting to complain about the lag. If there really was an issue with the lag there would be all these players logging onto the forums to post complaints about the lag."

    Couple of days ago i did a non-pug with fleeties in ISA. The lag was so bad in there I'd hit BFAW and after the buff wore off my ship started shooting and everyone started moving again. At first I thought it was my connection but when everyone in the group reported similar problems that dispelled my "it's me" idea.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    the reason: how much has cost his build?

    TBR boff -> at least 28 mil ec
    lobi store consoles -> too expensive
    kemocite weapon skill -> too expensive
    crtdx4 beams -> i don't want to know the cost
    etc etc

    please stop to denigrate pugs, a lot of players do what they can and don't/can't put tons of real money in this game.

    Um, I'm confused here. He soloed it. So uh, obviously people don't all individually need all of that to do the queue, right? So saying that players can't afford everything he has there, doesn't mean anything, eh? Cause one doesn't even need the amount of DPS he did there to do ISA. He finished it with ~2:12 left on the clock for the 15 minute Optional that starts after the initial engagement completes. So each person wouldn't even need a 1/5th of what he's got there, eh? Each wouldn't need to perform even at 20% of what he did. 20% of what he did would be overkill...get's closer to around 15% of what he did if that much.

    Please stop making excuses about it being a case of needing to spend real money to do something like ISA. :(
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    and please stop of thinking that you "pseudo" math are the reply for everything.

    better gears = better chance of success. crtdx4 epic weapons in my opinion do more damage, than MK XII purple; but i could be wrong. i hate mathematics.

    you clearcly don't want to understand that a lot of players can't afford to buy (or don't want to buy) the gears for being more powerful in stfs. and i don't speak about epic stuff. a lot of players don't have the time to grind marks for the rep gears, etc.

    this is their choices and it must be respected. when i pug, i know that there is always a chance of failure, and when it happens, well i try again 30 minutes later.

    Pugs shouldn't be an excuse now for the fails, after all, there are the dps channels.

    this dps race has seriously damaged the cordiality.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    and please stop of thinking that you "pseudo" math are the reply for everything.

    Er...what?
    better gears = better chance of success. crtdx4 epic weapons in my opinion do more damage, than MK XII purple; but i could be wrong. i hate mathematics.

    Better chance of success?

    Knowledge of the game.
    Knowledge of the queue itself and what is required from it.
    Understanding when to activate buffs/debuffs.
    Paying attention during the run.
    Having some piloting skill to work firing arcs.
    Having a planned path through the queue as well as alternates.
    Being able to adapt to what's going on.

    The list goes on and on and on...before one even gets close to gear changes.

    Unless one has some fundamentals going, the gear upgrades just aren't going to mean much. Don't know how to explain that without math, mind you. Er...hrmmm...and I guess you don't like the casual pseudo math either, which is generally an attempt to simply things for folks that don't like math.

    Say somebody's doing 2k DPS. They invest in upgrades that triple their DPS. Cool...they're at 6k DPS.

    Say somebody's doing 15k DPS. They invest in the same upgrades that triple their DPS. Yeah, they're doing 45k DPS.

    Same upgrades, same tripling of the DPS, but one gained 4k and one gained 30k.

    Which makes upgraded gear less about being able to do something (cause it's not very efficient at low DPS) and more about being able to do something faster (cause it's more efficient at higher DPS already).
    you clearcly don't want to understand that a lot of players can't afford to buy (or don't want to buy) the gears for being more powerful in stfs. and i don't speak about epic stuff. a lot of players don't have the time to grind marks for the rep gears, etc.

    What's not to understand there? Folks don't want to put any effort in but want to get their gold sticker. It's a common complaint about those folks...
    this is their choices and it must be respected. when i pug, i know that there is always a chance of failure, and when it happens, well i try again 30 minutes later.

    A chance of failure is why I pug. It's an element of challenge...it's dynamic gameplay.

    Folks showing up guaranteeing the failure though...that's just not fun and there's simply no excuse for guaranteeing failure.
    Pugs shouldn't be an excuse now for the fails, after all, there are the dps channels.

    Now? This issue isn't anything new...it's not a Delta Rising thing. There were over 300 pages and 3200 some posts in the Worst STF thread before Delta Rising launched.
    this dps race has seriously damaged the cordiality.

    The DPS race is limited to those racing and has little to do with completing an STF...

    So what if folks are doing 75k-120k+ in an ISA when on average folks don't even need 7.5k each for a successful ISA run?

    Let the racers race...there are DPS channels.

    But don't blame them for what folks aren't doing in pugs or use it as an excuse for why folks aren't doing it.

    What those guys are doing, sure...kudos...good job...nifty...but it doesn't affect what I'm doing in the least.
  • holofrogholofrog Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    TBR boff -> at least 28 mil ec

    A science Bridgeofficer (boff) isn't expensive. But if you mean the duty officer (doff), you should watch the Video again and you'll see, that he hasn't used him.
    crtdx4 beams -> i don't want to know the cost

    That wasn't CrtDx4-Beams.

    If one player is able to win that mission - without dying and with optional, so a group of 5 Players should be able to win it as well.
  • midniteshadow7midniteshadow7 Member Posts: 787 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    WOW! Very well done Ryan... I think I need lessons!
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Nice re-run songs from the days of my youth, kudos as I enjoyed them!

    I could be wrong but, I think your top crit for that run, was some 62.5k in a single hit?

    That's a whole lot of dmg from one beam!!!
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  • ezriryanezriryan Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thanks to everyone that liked the video ;D

    a few remarks as requested:

    DOffs were as listed in the build's description. (no reverse TBR - obviously i pushed them...)

    Weapons that were used:

    Front:
    Phaser Beam Array CrtDx2 CrtH Pen Epic
    Phaser Beam Array CrtDx2 CrtH Pen Epic
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Epic
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Epic


    Rear:
    Kinetic cutting Beam Dmgx3 Very Rare
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Ultra Rare
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Ultra Rare
    Phaser Beam Array CrtDx2 Pen very Rare

    as they clearly arent optimal, I didnt list them on the buildpage.


    @shadowwraith77:
    My max one hit was 81.4 from Plasma explosion (Sci console)
    And hits in the 60s from the Typhoon Fleet-support

    Max Fire at Will was 16.826


    best regards
    RyanSTO
  • thenoname711thenoname711 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Ryan has slotted 3 embassy +Flow consoles with plasma explosion proc. That proc can do such damage. :)
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ezriryan wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone that liked the video ;D

    a few remarks as requested:

    DOffs were as listed in the build's description. (no reverse TBR - obviously i pushed them...)

    Weapons that were used:

    Front:
    Phaser Beam Array CrtDx2 CrtH Pen Epic
    Phaser Beam Array CrtDx2 CrtH Pen Epic
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Epic
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Epic


    Rear:
    Kinetic cutting Beam Dmgx3 Very Rare
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Ultra Rare
    Phaser Beam Array ACC CrtDx2 Pen Ultra Rare
    Phaser Beam Array CrtDx2 Pen very Rare

    as they clearly arent optimal, I didnt list them on the buildpage.


    @shadowwraith77:
    My max one hit was 81.4 from Plasma explosion (Sci console)
    And hits in the 60s from the Typhoon Fleet-support

    Max Fire at Will was 16.826



    best regards
    RyanSTO

    Well, you were the one running the clocker so, that info wasn't something I had in front of me lol.

    I could only try to keep up, with all of the flying yellow #'s on screen, from the video.

    So, naturally I would have missed quite a bit but, either way it was some killer dmg!

    :eek::D:P
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    Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!

  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I just don't understand why people refuse to acknowledge the MASSIVE lag in game. I mean it's everywhere, go into an STF, any PvP match, kerrat, you name it, everyone I talk too experiences the lag to some extent.
    If you don't experience it, well then you are one lucky SOB, but it's fairly obvious that it is not just an isolated issue, otherwise there wouldn't be so many people complaining about it.
    It's in CO too. Which makes sense, as they share the same servers.
  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Ryan has slotted 3 embassy +Flow consoles with plasma explosion proc. That proc can do such damage. :)
    After being "fixed", those consoles are now able to help pugs' DPS a lot and they are not that expensive, you know ...
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    and please stop of thinking that you "pseudo" math are the reply for everything.

    better gears = better chance of success. crtdx4 epic weapons in my opinion do more damage, than MK XII purple; but i could be wrong. i hate mathematics.

    you clearcly don't want to understand that a lot of players can't afford to buy (or don't want to buy) the gears for being more powerful in stfs. and i don't speak about epic stuff. a lot of players don't have the time to grind marks for the rep gears, etc.

    this is their choices and it must be respected. when i pug, i know that there is always a chance of failure, and when it happens, well i try again 30 minutes later.

    Pugs shouldn't be an excuse now for the fails, after all, there are the dps channels.

    this dps race has seriously damaged the cordiality.

    I've never spent a dime on this game. I have PvPed and run a 30k+ build with plenty of resources to push it higher if I'd like. No content or gear is out of reach for F2Pers. It just takes a little patience and discipline. It also takes research, like asking questions of people who know better than you (like Virus for example).
  • puttenhamputtenham Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    yay for power creep, that is all...
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