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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,204 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I love animals in STO! They taste great in Yamok Sauce!
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  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I love animals in STO! They taste great in Yamok Sauce!

    I prefer syrup of squill on mine,...
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Also, as a Fed, you heroically save cute, innocent tribbles from the pre-Alliance, dastardly, beard-twirling, mean Klingons to make them unable to sing songs of another Great Tribble Hunt!
    #TASforSTO
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,448 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    cptjhunter wrote: »
    Sorry, If I didn't see it on the show, I don't count it.

    However, a futuristic ship with berber carpets, beige wallpaper on the bulkheads, and decorated with circa 1990's pier 1 imports furniture, would probably have a Dolphin navagator. So I'm just gonna agree that your paperback book is canon, cause it put money in Rick Berman's pocket.

    I don't want to derail this dumb idea thread, with another dumb topic, OK?
    TNG S5 Ep21: The Perfect Mate.

    Watch it. Geordi shows dolphins on board the Ent to a visitor. It wasn't a book.

    If you were truly not interested in derailing the thread, why bother responding without reading the link provided?

    Or is a character referencing something onscreen not enough to make it canon for you?
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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    bergins wrote: »
    TNG S5 Ep21: The Perfect Mate.

    Watch it. Geordi shows dolphins on board the Ent to a visitor. It wasn't a book.

    I suspect everyone watching that ep was too busy staring at Famke Janssen to notice or remember some dolphins.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,961 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    You don't have to kill these animals. You can just give up. That's a viable option, and about the same kind of option an "animal lover" would have if he was faced with a hostile, man-eating animal in real life.



    Reminds me a bit of Spec Ops: The Line and the moral tale it hides between its neatly made ego-shooter.

    As a player, you decide whether you want to accomplish a task or a mission. If the only way to accomplish a task in the game involves killing people or animals, and you do it for the sake of accomplishing the task, then you apparently didn't care that much about the animals or people.

    You can blame the developers for creating such "cruel" scenarios, but... it's a game. It's at least all made-up. In the real world, you have to make choices like that, too. Do you really think all that deeply about it? Did you consider the impact on plant and animal lives of the mining operations needed to gather the rare earths for your smartphone?
    hfmudd wrote: »
    I suspect everyone watching that ep was too busy staring at Famke Janssen to notice or remember some dolphins.

    I want my lawyer.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 5,969 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Who cares if animal or plant life is affected? The name of the human game right now is total control over natural forces. We're getting there, but we have a ways to go yet.

    Humans are the top of the food chain, and it's up to us to remain that way indefinetly. Any animal, plant, force -- whatever product of nature -- that challenges that is subject to elimination.

    Cats and dogs have evolved and adapted to accept their subservient role to humanity, but animals that don't are no linger useful or necessary.

    We need to genetically engineer Velociraptors. Is there any problems Velociraptors can't solve?
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    thay8472 wrote: »
    Is there any problems Velociraptors can't solve?
    Killing the annoying/stupid characters of any Jurassic Park movie instead of killing the likeable ones?
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    thay8472 wrote: »
    We need to genetically engineer Velociraptors. Is there any problems Velociraptors can't solve?

    Yes... but for those we'll have Velociraptors with frickin' lasers on their heads!
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,448 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    I suspect everyone watching that ep was too busy staring at Famke Janssen to notice or remember some dolphins.
    Well, while the servers are down, I started watching the episode in question on Netflix.

    The dolphin reference happens before the first scene with Janssen. It IS a brief "Leave the Ambassador alone, let's go see the dolphins instead" kind of moment, though. Easy to miss if you aren't looking for it...
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    I suspect everyone watching that ep was too busy staring at Famke Janssen to notice or remember some dolphins.

    OK,I.m guilty as charged...:o

    The defense rests.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I'm just waiting for PETA in-game protests forming around the homeworlds now.
    As a member of People Eating Tasty Animals, I see no problem with killing animals. As long as you do it for a good reason. :D

    Oh you meant the other PETA? they're whackos...
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  • ssargonssargon Member Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    • Mind Games where you are forced to kill Epohs.

    To be fair, your tricorder has enough range to revive both of them if you get in the right spot.

    Granted I revive them more to troll Sela than anything.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,982 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Who cares if animal or plant life is affected? The name of the human game right now is total control over natural forces. We're getting there, but we have a ways to go yet.

    Humans are the top of the food chain, and it's up to us to remain that way indefinetly. Any animal, plant, force -- whatever product of nature -- that challenges that is subject to elimination.

    Cats and dogs have evolved and adapted to accept their subservient role to humanity, but animals that don't are no linger useful or necessary.

    LOL Humans are a rampant viral vector.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM1-DQ2Wo_w

    People must understand that any member of the biosphere is important to that biosphere.

    Just because humans are a disease doesn't mean they can't use their vaunted intelligence to control their destructive behaviors.

    They need the biosphere to continue to produce metabolic gases and flora on which to feed.

    And don't kid yourself, humans are Herbivores. There is no such thing as an "Omnivore" as in eat "everything" do you eat pavement?

    They are just advantageous, it's easier to convert meat into meat.

    They pay for this with damage to their circulatory systems, but it gives them bigger brains while making them inferior to all other animals on the planet physically.

    I think there's a bit of jealousy over that and that's why some people think they are better than animals, which they are NOT and will never be.

    This is also why they want to pave over everything as their ancient fear of the carnivore lurking in the shadows has them cutting down every tree on the planet.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,204 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    thay8472 wrote: »
    We need to genetically engineer Velociraptors. Is there any problems Velociraptors can't solve?

    They would be outstanding game to hunt with the weapons in Star Trek :P

    Hell, they could start a Jurassic Park on Earth and invite the Klingons! They love going on Safari Hunts for dangerous, Big Game! The TRIBBLE they bring to these hunts!

    Make it so!
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,982 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    They would be outstanding game to hunt with the weapons in Star Trek :P

    Hell, they could start a Jurassic Park on Earth and invite the Klingons! They love going on Safari Hunts for dangerous, Big Game! The TRIBBLE they bring to these hunts!

    Make it so!

    I would love this due to the inevitable "oops" factor inherent in all things human.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,204 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I would love this due to the inevitable "oops" factor inherent in all things human.

    If JJ Abrams can have starships falling out of space and right into San Francisco (intact), why can't Dinosaurs? It'll be AWESOME!
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,982 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If JJ Abrams can have starships falling out of space and right into San Francisco (intact), why can't Dinosaurs? It'll be AWESOME!

    Wow,

    I just had an Awesome thought.

    JJ Abrams does Jurrasic Park!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    LOL Humans are a rampant viral vector.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM1-DQ2Wo_w

    People must understand that any member of the biosphere is important to that biosphere.

    Just because humans are a disease doesn't mean they can't use their vaunted intelligence to control their destructive behaviors.

    They need the biosphere to continue to produce metabolic gases and flora on which to feed.

    And don't kid yourself, humans are Herbivores. There is no such thing as an "Omnivore" as in eat "everything" do you eat pavement?

    They are just advantageous, it's easier to convert meat into meat.

    They pay for this with damage to their circulatory systems, but it gives them bigger brains while making them inferior to all other animals on the planet physically.

    I think there's a bit of jealousy over that and that's why some people think they are better than animals, which they are NOT and will never be.

    This is also why they want to pave over everything as their ancient fear of the carnivore lurking in the shadows has them cutting down every tree on the planet.
    Actually, Agent Smith's logic in concluding Humans are a virus is inherently flawed. He states that other life reproduces only up until a certain point, but all other life reproduces to the maximum extent it can. If there were no other trees, the White Oak in my yard would create a forest all on it's own if left to it's own devices. It cares not about some sort of preconceived notion of natural borders. It simply makes seeds and those seeds sprout where they will, and it makes thousands every year. You could cover the world in it's seedlings and it would continue to make more, because that's what it does.

    Trying to say that Humans are a disease because they don't "respect" the environment is based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of nature. NOTHING in nature respects the natural order. Everything tries to bend the natural order to it's whims. The result only seems stagnant when you try to view it as a whole.
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    LOL

    And don't kid yourself, humans are Herbivores.

    Eyes facing forward. Check.

    Several sharp teeth. Check.

    The self proclaimed "Herbivores" will be on my menu if I ever go down on a plane crash in the Andes mountains.

    After all, they chose a spot lower in the food chain than me.;)
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Wow,

    I just had an Awesome thought.

    JJ Abrams does Jurrasic Park!

    I can see it now , it will be 20ish paleontologists that also are expert helicopter pilots who team up , but constantly argue about a love triangle , and the ethics of creating dinosaurs , complete with rehashing of catch phrases and a bruting scientist that is the son of Ian Malcom that quotes chaos theory , occams razor , and then something rhetorical and hyperbolic from mother Teresa or Mandela that makes your average open mouthed popcorn chewig socialite communicate their own perspectives on a quote a 10 year old could understand , but it was said in such a way that they feel like Einstein's. ...even if they are just dumb.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,615 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    Patrick Stewart was against Picard having a fish, as he believed that part of humanity's maturity would include no longer keeping other animals captive for our entertainment etc.

    Isn't that why all of the fish tanks, (in the game) on our bridges, are holographic?
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,961 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Actually, Agent Smith's logic in concluding Humans are a virus is inherently flawed. He states that other life reproduces only up until a certain point, but all other life reproduces to the maximum extent it can. If there were no other trees, the White Oak in my yard would create a forest all on it's own if left to it's own devices. It cares not about some sort of preconceived notion of natural borders. It simply makes seeds and those seeds sprout where they will, and it makes thousands every year. You could cover the world in it's seedlings and it would continue to make more, because that's what it does.

    Trying to say that Humans are a disease because they don't "respect" the environment is based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of nature. NOTHING in nature respects the natural order. Everything tries to bend the natural order to it's whims. The result only seems stagnant when you try to view it as a whole.

    Yes... I guess it just shows that Agent Smith has been along humans so long that he makes the same mistakes as them.
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