With Velcro to hold the pins in place, I could see a varient of Bowling working - though it would be partway similar to a midway game since the ball would probably need to be thrown instead of rolled; scoring would be based on pins knocked from their velcro or maybe magnetic mounts.
Football (American) would probably work with a few modifications since one primarily carries or throws the ball - movement would be the difficult part since just running wouldn't work in Z-G.
Zero-G Martial Arts, Fencing or even Pro-Wrestling would be possible and interesting to watch; all those cheesy wire-work moves we see in movies and such would suddenly be much more do-able. The question would be how would a 'pin' work for that kind of situation...
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Soccer, hockey, football, basketball, baseball, and rugby would work well with some slight modifications. Soccer, rugby, and hockey would become more similar due to the nature of the sports. What is more likely to happen is that due to the similarity of some of the sports, these will be combined into new sports. The only difference between Zero G Hockey and Zero G Soccer is one uses a stick while the other uses body parts so they might be considered as the same game with players deciding which rules to follow.
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This reminds me of a scene from an old show I used to watch in the 90s, Space: Above and Beyond. The marines were on this moon or something, low G with EV suits. One of them, I think his name was Chang, brought a light up football. He had this epic grin on his face as he said "Go long. Go reeeeaaal long." Then he threw the ball, and... well... lets just say it was never heard from again.
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maybe with slightly larger court, and all 6 surfaces constructed from multiple sized panels set a varying angles. difficulty modes could be set based on the court, ball and raquet size, with greater variation and complexity introduced by varying the size, number and angle of the panels. maybe have a super mode that has the panel angles changing as the volley progresses.
scoring would be achieved based on the number of panels hit during a single service, with the points being awarded to a player who either hits the other player with the ball or are awarded as a result of the oppossing player swinging for the ball and missing, both of which end the play and require a new service. winning the set is by reaching a pre determined score, and the game can be set to reaching (n) sets out of (m). difficulty could be adjusted based on the court, ball and/or raquet size, with greater variation and complexity introduced by varying the size, number and/or angle of the panels on the wall.. we could maybe even have a super mode with changing panel angles and a decreasing court size as a volley progresses.
service could be initiated by a player or the court itself, in accordance to todays rules, with each player having 'a side' of the court. due to the nature of ZeroG, the 'side' and 'floor' are set by the player who has control of the service.
*also, the panels themselves dont have to be just passive surfaces, they could actively deflect the ball. this would also be another mechanic to alter the complexity.. you could alter the strength of the deflection and keep it constant for the whole game, or maybe vary the deflection during the game etc etc
This reminds me of a scene from an old show I used to watch in the 90s, Space: Above and Beyond. The marines were on this moon or something, low G with EV suits. One of them, I think his name was Chang, brought a light up football. He had this epic grin on his face as he said "Go long. Go reeeeaaal long." Then he threw the ball, and... well... lets just say it was never heard from again.
I was thinking indoors... playing sports in ev suits seems rather risky.
There was a scene with a zero-G game in Ender's Game with an example...
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Speaking of shows with Zero-G sports, wasn't there some kind of Football (American)/Lacross/Jailai hybrid-type sport played in a Zero-G field on the show "Batman Beyond"?
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Speaking of shows with Zero-G sports, wasn't there some kind of Football (American)/Lacross/Jailai hybrid-type sport played in a Zero-G field on the show "Batman Beyond"?
possibly, but IIRC it wasn't well defined, and was probably a one-off gimmick.
Of course chess checkers and go all work fine assuming a metal board and magnetic pieces. E-sports too (welcome to the first interplanetary StarCraft tournament... Why did we hook up the LAN and launch all the players into orbit? Why not!... Also we might have been drunk at the time)
There was a book I read once (can't remember the title) that had null-g "boxing" (more like MMA) as a major sport.
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Speaking of shows with Zero-G sports, wasn't there some kind of Football (American)/Lacross/Jailai hybrid-type sport played in a Zero-G field on the show "Batman Beyond"?
Not sure what they called it, but here is a picture of it.
Soccer, hockey, football, basketball, baseball, and rugby would work well with some slight modifications. Soccer, rugby, and hockey would become more similar due to the nature of the sports. What is more likely to happen is that due to the similarity of some of the sports, these will be combined into new sports. The only difference between Zero G Hockey and Zero G Soccer is one uses a stick while the other uses body parts so they might be considered as the same game with players deciding which rules to follow.
I grew up playing traditional soccer, and later, indoor soccer in college. 4 walls definitely made for an interesting twist on the game. I'd be very excited to add a 6th barrier, and a floating element. Juggling would be non-existent, but trapping might still be a skill, just with "equal and opposite" reactions upon stopping the ball.
Archery and target shooting. Rather than stationary shots, float and shoot at a variety of targets/angles. Darts, too, for that matter.
Laser tag/paint ball. Zero-g 3-d maze.
Acrobatic trampoline sport. 6 sides covered with trampolines. One wall with trampoline attached acting as a slide-away door to let players in.
I grew up playing traditional soccer, and later, indoor soccer in college. 4 walls definitely made for an interesting twist on the game. I'd be very excited to add a 6th barrier, and a floating element. Juggling would be non-existent, but trapping might still be a skill, just with "equal and opposite" reactions upon stopping the ball.
That definitely resembles jai alai, which is what I first thought of when seeing the topic question.
Jal Alai- as long as they can get some pastel suits and solve crime afterwards, let's do it. I was thinking that it was a game of la crosse.
Parkour wouldn't work since Parkour requires gravity, but obstacle courses would work.
The gravity element of it would be gone, sure, but that is true with American football and several other gravity-based sports mentioned. Parkour appears to also be about finding the right footing and angle to push yourself to an intended next step, which would work in zero-g.
Obstacle courses I would agree with. It would be like STO's Risa jetpacking, just using natural body movements to propel through a ringed course.
The gravity element of it would be gone, sure, but that is true with American football and several other gravity-based sports mentioned. Parkour appears to also be about finding the right footing and angle to push yourself to an intended next step, which would work in zero-g.
Obstacle courses I would agree with. It would be like STO's Risa jetpacking, just using natural body movements to propel through a ringed course.
But half the fun of Parkour is the risk of gravity plummeting you to your doom or at least injury. Without that element, then it is the same as an obstacle course.
But half the fun of Parkour is the risk of gravity plummeting you to your doom or at least injury. Without that element, then it is the same as an obstacle course.
what about the risk of accidentally impaling yourself? :P
If you plan to play in zero G, there are some very important things you need to keep in mind.
1: If you lave a large enough cargo bay, or a holodeck, you can still have a decent amount of room in which to play.
2: Since you are playing inside, you don't even need a suit. Granted, you may still want a light pressure suit, just to keep blood flowing properly in zero G, but you don't need a full-on space suit and oxygen tanks.
3: But since you are in zero G, games where YOU need to move are not going to work unless you have some sort of pack with manoeuvring thrusters, similar to what astronauts use to keep themselves stable during spacewalks.
4: In zero G, friction to stop collisions doesn't exist. When (not if, WHEN) collisions occur, the pileup will continue to happen until you all are plastered against a wall. So don't even think about movement sports unless you plan to wear full-body armour.
5: So that said, sports where you are remaining perfectly stationary are going to be the safest option. So think archery, or target practice of some sort.
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Football (American) would probably work with a few modifications since one primarily carries or throws the ball - movement would be the difficult part since just running wouldn't work in Z-G.
Zero-G Martial Arts, Fencing or even Pro-Wrestling would be possible and interesting to watch; all those cheesy wire-work moves we see in movies and such would suddenly be much more do-able. The question would be how would a 'pin' work for that kind of situation...
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This reminds me of a scene from an old show I used to watch in the 90s, Space: Above and Beyond. The marines were on this moon or something, low G with EV suits. One of them, I think his name was Chang, brought a light up football. He had this epic grin on his face as he said "Go long. Go reeeeaaal long." Then he threw the ball, and... well... lets just say it was never heard from again.
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maybe with slightly larger court, and all 6 surfaces constructed from multiple sized panels set a varying angles. difficulty modes could be set based on the court, ball and raquet size, with greater variation and complexity introduced by varying the size, number and angle of the panels. maybe have a super mode that has the panel angles changing as the volley progresses.
scoring would be achieved based on the number of panels hit during a single service, with the points being awarded to a player who either hits the other player with the ball or are awarded as a result of the oppossing player swinging for the ball and missing, both of which end the play and require a new service. winning the set is by reaching a pre determined score, and the game can be set to reaching (n) sets out of (m). difficulty could be adjusted based on the court, ball and/or raquet size, with greater variation and complexity introduced by varying the size, number and/or angle of the panels on the wall.. we could maybe even have a super mode with changing panel angles and a decreasing court size as a volley progresses.
service could be initiated by a player or the court itself, in accordance to todays rules, with each player having 'a side' of the court. due to the nature of ZeroG, the 'side' and 'floor' are set by the player who has control of the service.
*also, the panels themselves dont have to be just passive surfaces, they could actively deflect the ball. this would also be another mechanic to alter the complexity.. you could alter the strength of the deflection and keep it constant for the whole game, or maybe vary the deflection during the game etc etc
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I know, but this reminded me of that scene with the football in low-G.
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Well i could see a similar game combining the best elements of american football , soccer and hockey into on zero gravity event.
Something like blitzball and since it would be zero G it could be a nice sport
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Dodgeball.
Archery and target shooting. Rather than stationary shots, float and shoot at a variety of targets/angles. Darts, too, for that matter.
Laser tag/paint ball. Zero-g 3-d maze.
Acrobatic trampoline sport. 6 sides covered with trampolines. One wall with trampoline attached acting as a slide-away door to let players in.
I grew up playing traditional soccer, and later, indoor soccer in college. 4 walls definitely made for an interesting twist on the game. I'd be very excited to add a 6th barrier, and a floating element. Juggling would be non-existent, but trapping might still be a skill, just with "equal and opposite" reactions upon stopping the ball.
That definitely resembles jai alai, which is what I first thought of when seeing the topic question.
Jal Alai- as long as they can get some pastel suits and solve crime afterwards, let's do it. I was thinking that it was a game of la crosse.
Parkour wouldn't work since Parkour requires gravity, but obstacle courses would work.
The gravity element of it would be gone, sure, but that is true with American football and several other gravity-based sports mentioned. Parkour appears to also be about finding the right footing and angle to push yourself to an intended next step, which would work in zero-g.
Obstacle courses I would agree with. It would be like STO's Risa jetpacking, just using natural body movements to propel through a ringed course.
But half the fun of Parkour is the risk of gravity plummeting you to your doom or at least injury. Without that element, then it is the same as an obstacle course.
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1: If you lave a large enough cargo bay, or a holodeck, you can still have a decent amount of room in which to play.
2: Since you are playing inside, you don't even need a suit. Granted, you may still want a light pressure suit, just to keep blood flowing properly in zero G, but you don't need a full-on space suit and oxygen tanks.
3: But since you are in zero G, games where YOU need to move are not going to work unless you have some sort of pack with manoeuvring thrusters, similar to what astronauts use to keep themselves stable during spacewalks.
4: In zero G, friction to stop collisions doesn't exist. When (not if, WHEN) collisions occur, the pileup will continue to happen until you all are plastered against a wall. So don't even think about movement sports unless you plan to wear full-body armour.
5: So that said, sports where you are remaining perfectly stationary are going to be the safest option. So think archery, or target practice of some sort.
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