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Idea to end Iconian War

borgdmanborgdman Member Posts: 25 Arc User
Remember when Sela said that the Iconians can not travel through time, because it mess with their minds, that was a clue. If we(the player) use the Guardian of Forever an go back to days after the mission “Cold Storage". Then we can talk to the awakened Preserver an get the information, then come back to present time. And use that info to win the war.

I don't think the Iconians know about the Guardian of Forever, because if they did they would have bombard the planet Gateway first then New Romulus & Qo'noS etc.
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    iconians did try to get back in time 200 000 year ago with thir first war, than their minds get strange and they become a bit aggressive. now with logic we could make them as they were and they will stop attacking us.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    binebane wrote: »
    iconians did try to get back in time 200 000 year ago with thir first war, than their minds get strange and they become a bit aggressive
    [citation needed]
    #TASforSTO
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Best way to win a war is to hypnotize your enemies into thinking they lost. -- Sun Tzu (Alternate reality)
  • gleitfroschgleitfrosch Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    fastest way to end this war:

    give up. :P
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Chroniton Torpedoes
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    anazonda wrote: »
    Chroniton Torpedoes

    cloaked self replicating high yield Chroniton minefields in vulnerable systems with IFF devices
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      "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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    • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
      edited April 2015
      Have Neelix cook for them...though, not even the Tal Shiar would cross that line.
    • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
      edited April 2015
      Just let the Plot Armor drop off the Iconians. It dropped for the "much feared" Heralds and we're dropping them like Normal Borg Probes. The moment Plot Armor leaves the Iconians, we'll drop them the same with Mk IX Common weapons. Just like anything else.
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    • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
      edited April 2015
      Q: Why don't we just shoot 'em?
      A: Because they only show up in cutscenes.

      Q: Why do they only show up in cutscenes?
      A: Because they're genre savvy. They know that otherwise we'd shoot 'em.

      Q: So how will the war end?
      A: A boss battle of course, just like everything else. Or in other words, one or more of them stays after a cutscene and then we shoot 'em.

      Q: But weren't they supposed to be genre savvy enough to avoid that?
      A: If they were that genre savvy, they wouldn't be opposing the player characters.
    • captaintrueheartcaptaintrueheart Member Posts: 296 Arc User
      edited April 2015
      borgdman wrote: »
      Remember when Sela said that the Iconians can not travel through time, because it mess with their minds, that was a clue. If we(the player) use the Guardian of Forever an go back to days after the mission “Cold Storage". Then we can talk to the awakened Preserver an get the information, then come back to present time. And use that info to win the war.

      I don't think the Iconians know about the Guardian of Forever, because if they did they would have bombard the planet Gateway first then New Romulus & Qo'noS etc.

      Or... when the temporal agent shows up to give us the tesseract to take with us back in time to give to our younger selves as a delta recruit, we could just turn towards the perserver then and ask him how to defeat the iconians. When that temporal guy showed up in cold storage I was like... "Seriously!!! Hey can I just ask that dude over there, you know... the guy who knows EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING! It'll only take a second or two..." LOL

      Seriously, the whole thing makes no sense. WHY do we have to gather intel on Iconians from the past when we're standing in the ultimate repository of knowledge? What could we possible learn in the past compared to the knowledge that's literally right in front of us? And the whole Dept. of Temporal Investigations only further muddies this because in the future we should have known EXACTLY when the archive gets destroyed, where it is, and more importantly exactly HOW the Iconians were beaten.

      It would have made a lot more sense if the temporal guy showed up just before the Iconian baddie, turns to us and tells us we have to get the Tesseract to our past selves to learn as much as we can about the Iconians before the archive is destroyed. He also needed to inject another plot device relating to the timeline and why he couldn't simply tell us how to defeat the iconians.

      They also needed to invent some type of plot device that would explain why we haven't been able to access any of the preserver knowledge since the events of Cold Storage. Even if the timespan is only a few days in story time, the question of "how to stop the iconians" should have been the very first question asked the minute the archive was found.

      But hey, I'm sure in the end it will be the power of TEAMWORK that saves the day! Yay for setting aside our differences and coming together as one big happy family. I completely expect a nice group hug when the day is saved along with a few lines of monolog recapping the moral lesson about working together we just learned...

      Alternatively, I'd also accept a cutscene where the view fades back to a holodeck and we're told that this was an extensive test... that we passed... and that we're finally ready to boldly go where no man has gone before. ;)
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      Captain Ariel Trueheart Department of Temporal Investigations
      U.S.S. Valkyrie - NCC 991701
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