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Brotherhood of the sword too difficult
stuart1965
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Brotherhood of the sword too difficult even on "easy mode".
Communication seems to be a problem on it, when getting players to deactivate the iconian tech in a number of seconds.
Also the heralds weaponry is way over powered against level 14 gear.
The easy mode is more like advanced so far to high in difficulty.
Communication seems to be a problem on it, when getting players to deactivate the iconian tech in a number of seconds.
Also the heralds weaponry is way over powered against level 14 gear.
The easy mode is more like advanced so far to high in difficulty.
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Only problems im having is with those damn side missions... "Save the Syndicate operative".. you have 5-10 seconds before he's killed. :mad:
The problem is not the mission, because the space combat was very easy. I would recommend you ask around for some build and piloting advice.
Too difficult on "easy" ?
All you have to do is click 3 Items and survive for ~20s ... repeat 4 times ... done ...
Multiple strategies work, as long as everyone is following it. You can shoot the initial enemies first, once they'er clear, one guy deactivates the first piece of tech, while the other four split up in two pairs. Since there's two other locations where tech has to be deactivated, that leaves one guy shooting and drawing aggro, one guy to perform the task of deactivating the Iconian technology.
Or you can ignore the first group of enemies and just deactivate the tech immediatly, whatever you do, make sure everyone's following the same strategy as you actually need each other and work as a team. Which is a good thing.
Which also means that you may have to give advice to your teammates. It's a new mission after all and most people are used to simply shoot everything they see and then start wondering what they have to do and what the mission's objectives are (take infected ground and space as an example, it's often shoot first, think and look around / check the situation later).
It may be hard, but these are the ultimate bad guys. Simple strategy can make it very easy though, as long as everyone knows what he's doing and as long as you've got someone in your team who can take a few hits, heal or draw aggro.
Edit: what most people may not know yet: you can disable Iconian tech even if you're fired upon. Unlike everywhere else in the game, your actions don't get interrupted if someone shoots you. Considering the little amount of time available I'm assuming this is intended.
Well ... that's more of a "generel" problem ... but the "Tactics" are as complicated as answering questions about "flying pigs" ...
All you need is one more guy who knows what he's doing ... pugged it twice ... guess I was lucky ...
Very much this.
Agreed on that... it also doesn't help that you have no way of knowing what the side mission will be. It can be release the targs, or save some operative.
But then again, if you have two people head for the targs and two for the operative, it should be doable as well. Same problem here: most people simply shoot the first thing they see, which is often the large group of enemies near the first Iconian tech in that part of the mission.
So yeah, bottom line: divide some tasks and work in pairs. Don't have four people shooting one group of enemies and leave optional objectives to be completed by one guy who then gets killed. Don't keep mindlessly shooting stuff but take note of the objectives and make sure everyone knows his or her task.
Brotherhood of the sword is a ground mission. nothing to do with space.
Yes its the co-ordination which is hard, and that many in the game don't understand english.
Team chat would be good if in the same lingo.
Let the stupid suffer
I would do kobali for the doohickies and bug hunt for the marks or else do brotherhood on normal unless or until they fix it.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Most people play tactical officers and try to DPS everything to death. That's a fact, 51% of characters as of the last infographic (which is a flawed representation of data anyway but moving on).
I had a guy earlier today who thought it was okay to berate the rest of the team for not doing well despite the fact he spent most the mission doing exactly that, throwing damage everywhere and achieving precisely nothing. I don't even need to go through parse data to see that.
People need to learn that damage isn't everything. In fact it really is down to strategy and competence with your build. The best people are people who can work well with others and adapt to the situation at hand, and as the person I quoted said, pugs 99% of the time aren't capable of such. People like the idiot I encountered today are part of the reason why, sheer ignorance.
I can't say I find it difficult combat wise even on Advanced, haven't had a chance to do Elite yet as no one seems to want to do it
All people need to know is 3 things:
-getting shot doesn't interrupt you so, unless you have low health and shield, ignore the enemies shooting you
-enemies don't stop respawning until you activate the 3 devices (where most of them (except fused constructs) vanish) so, at best, ignore them, at worse, have someone to aggro them so they don't kill or knock you down before you finish the activation
-you need to complete any optional (or required in advanced and elite) objective before activating the 3 devices, otherwise you fail
In fact you only need one more for it, one teammember capable of understanding the very easy objective. Since one player can deactivate two devices (the first and one of the seconds).
If you cant do that, dont let the doorhandle hit you on the way out.
How many languages do you speak?
Some people really should just stick to single player games....
The only annoying thing about BoS are bugs like the targs not moving.
This! Very well said. I wish there will missions designed against "dps-fascism" :-) but the sad truth is we know how it goes with design and difficulty in STO.
I do however simply LOVE the fact that it seems to have those failable "optional" objectives that everybody enjoys so much on Advanced. Those are an absolute BLAST. Stupid mission failing in area two because of some objective that was so far down the list you couldn't even see it...:mad: .
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Though in Elite, it gets more appropriately challenging... so much so, haven't won one yet because the pug team never communicated to one another.
I pugged this on normal and was done in, like, 7 minutes tops.
The most difficult part for me is locating the damn consoles. There's also always someone who will run to the first console in sight and activate it before other players are ready, causing the first interaction to fail. But it usually works after two or three attempts.
I have no issues with the difficulty of the mission on Normal, but I'm biased as I tend to carry the team (I'm a ground-focused Engineer with Elite gear.)
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sorry, much easier to never take the mission and just do the easy space mission.
I don't feel like communicating in this game, never had to before. Playing original EQ for years, sure because that required communication from the moment you entered the game.
STO is a single player game with casual grouping that should not require any real thought or communication....lol.
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All 5 player queues require some form of strategy (or thinking) the problem is that most players go in thinking it’s just a kill,kill,kill until the leave button pops up kind of mission.
They all forget to do the most simplest of things which is read your objective window.
Ask around to see what kind of strategy is being used, look it up on you tube, use your resources be for you start saying it’s too hard.
Bug Hunt was the same when it first came out until more and more people finally understood it. Right now, PUGs do BHE sleepwalking.
This. It's a new queue, just give people time to learn it. Same goes for the Heralds themselves, the first time I played Blood of the Ancients, I died so many times. Then I learned their tactics and how to counter.
Tip: ALWAYS aim for the Thralls. Constructs aren't that dangerous in small numbers, but the Thralls will jack you up. IMO, Thralls are more dangerous than Defilers.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
As long as 3 people figure out what they're supposed to do, (2 if you already know what to do), then you can get through it.
I will say that, while the heralds aren't particularly resilient, I do feel they hit too hard on normal. Routinely getting hit for triple digit values, in the 2-3 hundred range, on normal, with mk xiv gear, is kind of disappointing & frustrating. All their melee attacks seem to have 100% shield penetration, (I wish my shotgun did), and tier those standard beam attacks can't see to decide if they are ignoring shields or not.
I played one game where lag knocked all the players out but me right before the herald leader and tried to solo him. I managed to do it, but it took forever since it was a constant cycle of: run up, take a shot/use a special ability, 3 hits dead, respawn repeat.
I've been dreading advanced an elite, simply because I'll probably be one shot-ed by everything.