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T6 Odyssey/Enterprise Leading the Charge against the Iconians? Where is she?

papesh1papesh1 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Federation Discussion
I love the promo material showing the Odyssey/Enterprise leading the charge.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9213973-delta-recruitment-week-4%21


When is she going to be updated? I doubt Starfleet would send its flagship in underpowered. She deserves some costume options, Command or Intel Abilities, and a Hanger to name a few. This is the current class of the Enterprise, the Flagship of Starfleet. Stop toying with us, Cryptic.
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  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    papesh1 wrote: »
    I love the promo material showing the Odyssey/Enterprise leading the charge.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9213973-delta-recruitment-week-4%21


    When is she going to be updated? I doubt Starfleet would send its flagship in underpowered. She deserves some costume options, Command or Intel Abilities, and a Hanger to name a few. This is the current class of the Enterprise, the Flagship of Starfleet. Stop toying with us, Cryptic.

    Likely not for awhile, I expect the T6 defiant and sovereign , before along with several other new specializations. I imagine that the seating of the upgraded flagships, will encompass a lot of the different new specializations. Also a big mission with all the refitted flagships, would be released at same time.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The crew of the Enterprise doesn't need all the crutches to do awesome...
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    papesh1 wrote: »
    I love the promo material showing the Odyssey/Enterprise leading the charge.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9213973-delta-recruitment-week-4%21


    When is she going to be updated? I doubt Starfleet would send its flagship in underpowered. She deserves some costume options, Command or Intel Abilities, and a Hanger to name a few. This is the current class of the Enterprise, the Flagship of Starfleet. Stop toying with us, Cryptic.

    That poster was made AFTER the Iconian invasion started...IE AFTER the front line ships of all three major Alpha and Beta Quadrant powers got wiped -- so what you're seeing in that poster is what's left of the Fleets...:eek::D;)
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  • bberge1701bberge1701 Member Posts: 726 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2015
    papesh1 wrote: »
    I love the promo material showing the Odyssey/Enterprise leading the charge.

    Actually, that's me in my Odyssey-class U.S.S. Hornet (NCC-91714). :D
  • papesh1papesh1 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The crew of the Enterprise doesn't need all the crutches to do awesome...

    Point taken! However, it would be nice to have the largest Fed crusier to be brought up to par with the Eclipse, Andromeda and the Command Cruisers. While I do enjoy my Andromeda, I like the sheer size of the Ody.
  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    papesh1 wrote: »
    Point taken! However, it would be nice to have the largest Fed crusier to be brought up to par with the Eclipse, Andromeda and the Command Cruisers. While I do enjoy my Andromeda, I like the sheer size of the Ody.

    I think the Command Cruisers may outsize the Odyssey. The Presidio especially is gigantic.
  • papesh1papesh1 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    variant37 wrote: »
    I think the Command Cruisers may outsize the Odyssey. The Presidio especially is gigantic.

    Interesting point. I will have to check it out.

    It would be nice if the wiki got an updated ship chart.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Or they could just Fleet up the thing. If someone burns a 5U token it already has the appropriate hull, shields, and console slots, so just let the Fleet enhancement boost the ensign to lieutenant instead of the usual Fleet stuff. Puts it right on par with any Fleet T6 ship.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    "Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise."
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  • maobemaobe Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Or they could just Fleet up the thing. If someone burns a 5U token it already has the appropriate hull, shields, and console slots, so just let the Fleet enhancement boost the ensign to lieutenant instead of the usual Fleet stuff. Puts it right on par with any Fleet T6 ship.

    should be a skin for command cruisers too imho :P
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  • terlokiterloki Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    Actually, that's me in my Odyssey-class U.S.S. Hornet (NCC-91714). :D

    Wait, I thought it was the U.S.S. Cosmos (NCC-101864-A). What photo-op was my flagship posing for then? :confused:
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  • caylenrcaylenr Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I am not sure how they'd make a T6 version of this ship. Obviously they wouldn't need to do much as BOffs go, other than change the Ens Uni to a Lt Uni. They would give it a little more hull and shields, and definitely a hangar.

    But then you hit the major issue. Console layout. There are three very distinct versions of the Oddy. Granted most people use the Tac version, but there are a few that use the Sci and a very VERY few that use the Engi. Now you couldn't really do a T6 version without basing it off one of those three, but then if you choose one, then you give the finger to the other two. The T6 Bort and Scim would have similar problems.

    The only real recourse here would be to introduce the first 12 console ship (4/4/4), but then power creep. Again.
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  • forthegamerforthegamer Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The T6 ship could be a refit that comes after the Odyssey gets torn to bits that leads to it getting a refit. It'll likely come after the Iconian War. So Season 11.
  • papesh1papesh1 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    caylenr wrote: »
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.

    Shon is a bit of a hot head. I think having an Andorian on the Enterprise was a stupid decision. I doubt it would ever happen on a real show.

    Like the First Contact reference though...LOL.
  • papesh1papesh1 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The T6 ship could be a refit that comes after the Odyssey gets torn to bits that leads to it getting a refit. It'll likely come after the Iconian War. So Season 11.

    I would go for that. I am enjoying my Andromeda at the present.
  • terlokiterloki Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The only real recourse here would be to introduce the first 12 console ship (4/4/4), but then power creep. Again.

    They could theoretically get around that by making it 4/3/3/1 and giving it a universal slot. It would certainly fit for an Enterprise, though that's a whole other can of worms that the devs may not want to open.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    terloki wrote: »
    They could theoretically get around that by making it 4/3/3/1 and giving it a universal slot. It would certainly fit for an Enterprise, though that's a whole other can of worms that the devs may not want to open.

    I can see where you're going with this, but a more accurate way of doing that would actually be 4 engi, 2 tac, 3 sci, with two uni consoles, because you'd be taking the stock version (aka the 200k FC version) and just giving the option to make it like the t5U version of one of the three. You'd be able to do the same with the Scimi and Bort. I like that idea.

    But as you said, that's a whole new can of worms, and I don't know if cryptic would be able to effectively program that in with all the current issues (aka bug free).
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  • papesh1papesh1 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    While I realize that the Ody isn't that old, I think if they gave a Command or Intel seat, a hanger, some costume options, and a special console. It would be a viable purchase. Make the hull potential the highest for any Fed ship. She is the beast of the Federation. Give her a ship mastery trait that matches up with her size and power. Maybe give her different ship abilities than the standard cruiser traits. The Command cruisers got the battle cruiser traits. Perhaps they could create a dreadnought or flagship set of traits. The mirror universe uses the Ody as a dreadnought(in game) so why not the prime universe. A flagship set of traits wouldn't be far fetched...the Enterprise can't be everywhere. They introduce the ships as the Flagship pack and introduce the Klingon and Romulan versions as well.


    I like the overall flow of the ship compared to a Galaxy. While I love the Galaxy, the Ody looks like a Sovereign on steroids. I have always loved the updated classic look of the Sovereign. The Ody is a bigger variant in many ways.

    I jumped in my Ody yesterday from my Andromeda. I just like the overall silhouette of the ship better. If I had to add/change anything to her design, I would like some neck/hull options.

    The explanation for a refit could be due to the increasing number of threats to the Delta Alliance...like the Iconian War. Starfleet pushed the limits of current ship design to introduce an Odyssey Refit......yada yada yada...
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    With the T6 Odyssey class and with other T6 ships, do you all think it is time they introduce a new or improve the QSD? Have the chroniton quantum slipstream drive added? The Vesta class came out in 2380, before the Odyssey class and other ships. In Star Trek the technologies eventually gets passed on to other ships, so do you think it is time for an update on the QSD and other technologies?
  • jasecurtisjasecurtis Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    raj011 wrote: »
    With the T6 Odyssey class and with other T6 ships, do you all think it is time they introduce a new or improve the QSD? Have the chroniton quantum slipstream drive added? The Vesta class came out in 2380, before the Odyssey class and other ships. In Star Trek the technologies eventually gets passed on to other ships, so do you think it is time for an update on the QSD and other technologies?

    By improve do you mean quicker or something more radical? Increasing it to Transwarp 40 I could understand and get behind but I'm not sure what else could be done. Warp drive didn't fundamentally change for 300 years except get faster.

    As for the Enterprise, I did notice Shon in the briefing for Broken Circle. No mention of the Big E, but she hasn't got sucked into a wormhole.
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  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    jasecurtis wrote: »
    raj011 wrote: »
    With the T6 Odyssey class and with other T6 ships, do you all think it is time they introduce a new or improve the QSD? Have the chroniton quantum slipstream drive added? The Vesta class came out in 2380, before the Odyssey class and other ships. In Star Trek the technologies eventually gets passed on to other ships, so do you think it is time for an update on the QSD and other technologies?

    By improve do you mean quicker or something more radical? Increasing it to Transwarp 40 I could understand and get behind but I'm not sure what else could be done. Warp drive didn't fundamentally change for 300 years except get faster.

    As for the Enterprise, I did notice Shon in the briefing for Broken Circle. No mention of the Big E, but she hasn't got sucked into a wormhole.

    Have both done, increase transwarp speed and introduce may be something new or new to the T6 ships that have not got the technology but not really new in terms of it is already in the game for example the chroniton slipstream drive being the fastest in the game and yet the Vesta class came out in 2380 in the timeline and the Odyssey came out in 2409. Like I said before in Star Trek new technologies eventually go to others ships as well or at least most. It would be good if they made special separate consoles slots for the unique ships items, which would free up room on the standard consoles layout.

    May be it is time they introduce the ablative hull generator.
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  • koraheaglecrykoraheaglecry Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    Dedicated Carrier T6 with a flight deck running the length of the saucer that you could actually visually see through from one end to the other...Maybe somehow work some tiny little shuttles into it so that you can see them parked in there along the runway. Maybe give this version some actual edges and sharp corners to contrast it against its predecessor. Not too much though. The Arbiter for instance in my opinion wasnt as visually a step forward from the Avenger as it probably should have been. So dont go overboard would be my advice.

    I have to echo what others have said as far as the BOff seating...Turning the Ensign into a Lt is really all that needs to be done on that front.





  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Like everyone else, I reckon they should just turn the ensign uni into an Lt. It should have at least one specialization hybrid - ideally intel, pilot or something new.

    But please, not Command. Or not just command, unless those abilities get a serious buff.

    EDIT:

    Also, more shon. Shon is awesome.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    prehaps cryptic are having problems making a t6 scimitar without making it godlike.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    I am not sure how they'd make a T6 version of this ship. Obviously they wouldn't need to do much as BOffs go, other than change the Ens Uni to a Lt Uni. They would give it a little more hull and shields, and definitely a hangar.

    But then you hit the major issue. Console layout. There are three very distinct versions of the Oddy. Granted most people use the Tac version, but there are a few that use the Sci and a very VERY few that use the Engi. Now you couldn't really do a T6 version without basing it off one of those three, but then if you choose one, then you give the finger to the other two. The T6 Bort and Scim would have similar problems.

    The only real recourse here would be to introduce the first 12 console ship (4/4/4), but then power creep. Again.

    The other option, one that has "proven financially successful" if certain Geko's are to be believed, is to create a $120 "9 ship mega bundle" surrounding the "Flagships"...

    This way, nobody's "put off" by "their favorite variant" getting the dust off... This could prove, with certain tweaks (can you say finally making the Bort a "battlecruiser" instead of just a KDF-skinned basic cruiser), exactly how much of a market for certain races really exists... ;)​​
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  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    If they do bring in a T6 Bortasqu, this would be a good opportunity for that ship to be more comparable to the other two flagships, instead of making it the oversized, overpriced garbage scow like last time.
  • mscowboymscowboy Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    There is precedent from lockbox ships for two different kinds of specialization seats on a single ship. If there were ever a good time to introduce this to c store ships, it would be with the flagships. Command and Intel together would make for a good looking oddy. If they ever wanted to introduce true universal seats this would also be a good place for it (not likely to happen).

    I for one do hope they get around to making a brand new specialization soon. I'm looking forward to a T6 Sovereign, except that I don't want it to have command and I don't think they would give it Intel, so there needs to be something new to give it first (I don't think they will break their design philosophy of pilot being escort-only).
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