So, with this delta thing I created a straight-kdf char and I can't tell you how refreshing it was.
I didn't realize how tired I was of romulan chars all the time. There's just no good way to turn down the advantage that romulan boff traits give.
I'd like to play straight-fed/kdf sometimes and use the romulan boffs with the good traits, I own the expansion, so why not?
this would better my game enjoyment, for others too I bet
No offense, but wouldn't that ruin it for the Romulans and fail to compensate for the fact that they're faction's starships have less power to dish out?
odd, I thought f2p people didn't have access to rom
No, all content is free in STO. What you suffer as an f2p'er is just a credit cap restriction, free inventory slots for your characters, veteran rewards, and... that's about it.
No offense, but wouldn't that ruin it for the Romulans and fail to compensate for the fact that they're faction's starships have less power to dish out?
.... I think console magic and the singularity powers take care of that,
just on it's own, the valdore heavy warbird console is insanely useful
EDIT: but I could be wrong I guess, I never thought of them as bad or less
No offense, but wouldn't that ruin it for the Romulans and fail to compensate for the fact that they're faction's starships have less power to dish out?
The -40 power is such a joke my romulans have no problems with power
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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.... I think console magic and the singularity powers take care of that,
just on it's own, the valdore heavy warbird console is insanely useful
EDIT: but I could be wrong I guess, I never thought of them as bad or less
Well, you get a reduction in points. You're right though, properly used Singularity powers aren't bad.
Hmm...
It really feels like the KDF has honestly been stripped of much of its uniqueness in terms of faction play over time. I think that's the heart of the problem. With the fed, you obviously have a more science bent to game and a vast selection of ships to choose from. With the Rommies, you get the best storyline in the game (I really don't mind Tovan so...), beautiful ships and unique traits found nowhere else.
With the KDF... well they haven't done anything with BoPs in a while. They have more species, but it feels like the clothing is always limited. That and many of the ship designs feel very rushed. It's quite a shame.
So? Still 40 less power to deal with which only makes other ships easier to fly...Singularity Cores also suck compared to M/AM cores.
in what sense? could you be more specific?
the 40 less power isn't that big of a deal, at least in endgame.
this is an odd thread anyway, since Romulan expansion was free for everybody, there are certain romulan boffs available for fed or kdf and the notion that romulan ships are weaker is simply a subjective observation and not actually a fact.
in other words: kdf or fed can alerady own romulan boffs and the expansion cannot be owned by anybody, since it is free.
Less power for defense...less shield power and less engine power, less Aux power for for HE.
Or how Singularity Cores suck? I wouldn't know where to start lol
ok, so you listed the downside, and you ignore the upsides of a singularity core to draw a conclusion, interesting
comparison with owning a dog doing your type of objective review:
dogs TRIBBLE everywhere, they cost alot, they need a lot of attention and work...conclusion: dogs suck, why would anybody want to own a dog?
odd, I thought f2p people didn't have access to rom
Remans have to be unlocked either through the C-Store or getting to Tier 5 in the New Romulus reputation, but all content for STO is free and will always be free as long as PWE is in charge. Of course, cosmetic items like ships and other luxuries requiring paying for them.
So? Still 40 less power to deal with which only makes other ships easier to fly...Singularity Cores also suck compared to M/AM cores.
you need to learn how to use them is all I got to say..........
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
OP, you can get Romulan Boffs for your KDF and Starfleet toons from your fleet's embassy.
Ah, yeah, that is cool, but the problem there is you can only get superior op trait on the tactical boffs, we have to use non-romulan for the other slots.
If they added superior op sci and eng boffs that would take care of it too
or added crit traits to aliens
naussican pirate trait is nice, but it just doesn't hold a candle to +crit
EDIT: As for roms being gimped with power deficient ships ... I didn't know that either, but the consoles and singularity powers do make up for that a bit ... but the real thing
roms aren't locked into those ships. There's a ton of all-faction ships to choose from, many are given away at events.
If you don't want to be a Romulan, you can't have all romulan boffs.
Why does everyone seem to think all factions should be identical and have identical abilities/traits/perks? What would be the point in them being different factions?
I think there should be even more extreme differences.
If you don't want to be a Romulan, you can't have all romulan boffs.
Why does everyone seem to think all factions should be identical and have identical abilities/traits/perks? What would be the point in them being different factions?
I think there should be even more extreme differences.
I hear you, I like that too, I think the rom ships more than make that, they are extremely unique
the +crit on the boffs is too much though, imho
as for making another rom, I have plenty, as I said I was just surprised how refreshing it was to play straight fed/kdf and it's disappointing that they have the built in gimptatude from the boffs, but I'm broken-record now, so it's been said
I hear you, I like that too, I think the rom ships more than make that, they are extremely unique
the +crit on the boffs is too much though, imho
as for making another rom, I have plenty, as I said I was just surprised how refreshing it was to play straight fed/kdf and it's disappointing that they have the built in gimptatude from the boffs, but I'm broken-record now, so it's been said
Romulan's are supposed to be OP. That's the point of them. That's why the Federation always went out of their way to avoid a direct fight with them, even if they violated the neutral zone first.
If you don't want to be a Romulan, you can't have all romulan boffs.
Why does everyone seem to think all factions should be identical and have identical abilities/traits/perks? What would be the point in them being different factions?
I think there should be even more extreme differences.
It's not that they want everything yo be the same...it's more like they think Feds should be best at everything and Feds steal every little unique thing someone else has.
This forum never ceases to amaze me...just a few days ago there were posts about how Romulan ships suck compared to Feds and here is the typical blind Feds whining about how OP they are...can't have it both ways...they cant be sucky and OP.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
It's not that they want everything yo be the same...it's more like they think Feds should be best at everything and Feds steal every little unique thing someone else has.
This forum never ceases to amaze me...just a few days ago there were posts about how Romulan ships suck compared to Feds and here is the typical blind Feds whining about how OP they are...can't have it both ways...they cant be sucky and OP.
(I'm klink btw)
while people do whine, I think you are missing the point
if I want to optimize a char, it has to be romulan, everything else is crit-gimped, even if it's only a little, people fly around with 100%+ crtd (severity) so every little bit of +crit counts
that's ... not super-fun
it was refreshing to play straight fed/klink again, but also frustrating knowing that they are not worth developing
This way, all 3 factions have a unique ability covered.
Rom [crth]
Fed [acc]
Kdf [crtd]
Just some thought!!!
nausican's pirate trait is quite alright actually and the human leadership trait isn't too shabby either (although not offensive)
I think they should simply make use of the BOFF trait UI...at the moment it is "locked" but it seems that it was designed to be customizable.
Purchaseable traits for BOFFs will probably be something they plan to introduce in the future otherwise the "BOFF trait select menu" simply wouldn't exist.
As a Fed or KDF captain you can actually have 1-3 rom superior opperatives and 2 pirates (hirarchy boff and a nausican boff from the diplomacy contact)
Also to note that you can get an unlimited number of the "standard" (non-Superior) Romulan Operatives.
I checked the embassy, the only things that had operative or superior op were tactical officers, as far as I know unless you are a rom char, you can't get the trait on sci or eng
Two different things. Romulan ships may be perceived that way (I don't agree)... but Romulan BOFFs (which are the discussion here) are a different ballgame... and pretty much universally thought of as being, if not THE best, then certainly very close to it.
I do more dps in my fed with 1 SRO boff and 3 pirates than I do with my Romulan in a scimitar with all SRO's.
Also, the order of preference for boff traits, as far as dealing damage goes, is SRO > Pirate > Efficient > Leadership. Obviously, if you're a romulan you'd want the Delta Pack with SRO & SupInf.
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No offense, but wouldn't that ruin it for the Romulans and fail to compensate for the fact that they're faction's starships have less power to dish out?
odd, I thought f2p people didn't have access to rom
No, all content is free in STO. What you suffer as an f2p'er is just a credit cap restriction, free inventory slots for your characters, veteran rewards, and... that's about it.
.... I think console magic and the singularity powers take care of that,
just on it's own, the valdore heavy warbird console is insanely useful
EDIT: but I could be wrong I guess, I never thought of them as bad or less
And, the feds/kdf don't have really useful consoles + cruiser commands?
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
The -40 power is such a joke my romulans have no problems with power
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Well, you get a reduction in points. You're right though, properly used Singularity powers aren't bad.
Hmm...
It really feels like the KDF has honestly been stripped of much of its uniqueness in terms of faction play over time. I think that's the heart of the problem. With the fed, you obviously have a more science bent to game and a vast selection of ships to choose from. With the Rommies, you get the best storyline in the game (I really don't mind Tovan so...), beautiful ships and unique traits found nowhere else.
With the KDF... well they haven't done anything with BoPs in a while. They have more species, but it feels like the clothing is always limited. That and many of the ship designs feel very rushed. It's quite a shame.
So? Still 40 less power to deal with which only makes other ships easier to fly...Singularity Cores also suck compared to M/AM cores.
in what sense? could you be more specific?
the 40 less power isn't that big of a deal, at least in endgame.
this is an odd thread anyway, since Romulan expansion was free for everybody, there are certain romulan boffs available for fed or kdf and the notion that romulan ships are weaker is simply a subjective observation and not actually a fact.
in other words: kdf or fed can alerady own romulan boffs and the expansion cannot be owned by anybody, since it is free.
Less power for defense...less shield power and less engine power, less Aux power for for HE.
Or how Singularity Cores suck? I wouldn't know where to start lol
ok, so you listed the downside, and you ignore the upsides of a singularity core to draw a conclusion, interesting
comparison with owning a dog doing your type of objective review:
dogs TRIBBLE everywhere, they cost alot, they need a lot of attention and work...conclusion: dogs suck, why would anybody want to own a dog?
Remans have to be unlocked either through the C-Store or getting to Tier 5 in the New Romulus reputation, but all content for STO is free and will always be free as long as PWE is in charge. Of course, cosmetic items like ships and other luxuries requiring paying for them.
you need to learn how to use them is all I got to say..........
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Ah, yeah, that is cool, but the problem there is you can only get superior op trait on the tactical boffs, we have to use non-romulan for the other slots.
If they added superior op sci and eng boffs that would take care of it too
or added crit traits to aliens
naussican pirate trait is nice, but it just doesn't hold a candle to +crit
EDIT: As for roms being gimped with power deficient ships ... I didn't know that either, but the consoles and singularity powers do make up for that a bit ... but the real thing
roms aren't locked into those ships. There's a ton of all-faction ships to choose from, many are given away at events.
If you don't want to be a Romulan, you can't have all romulan boffs.
Why does everyone seem to think all factions should be identical and have identical abilities/traits/perks? What would be the point in them being different factions?
I think there should be even more extreme differences.
I hear you, I like that too, I think the rom ships more than make that, they are extremely unique
the +crit on the boffs is too much though, imho
as for making another rom, I have plenty, as I said I was just surprised how refreshing it was to play straight fed/kdf and it's disappointing that they have the built in gimptatude from the boffs, but I'm broken-record now, so it's been said
Romulan's are supposed to be OP. That's the point of them. That's why the Federation always went out of their way to avoid a direct fight with them, even if they violated the neutral zone first.
maybe then, it would be nice of maybe then there were a few more special boffs to balance things out
1: Space weapons specialist [Fed] = bonus (ACC) per boff + captain [basic/regular/superior]
2: Collateral damage specialist [Kdf] = bonus (CRTD) per boff + captain [basic/regular/superior]
This way, all 3 factions have a unique ability covered.
Rom [crth]
Fed [acc]
Kdf [crtd]
Just some thought!!!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
If this was the case, and PvP was resurrected somehow, I see lots of floating white hulks.
Smelly Klinks would rule the universe.
It's not that they want everything yo be the same...it's more like they think Feds should be best at everything and Feds steal every little unique thing someone else has.
This forum never ceases to amaze me...just a few days ago there were posts about how Romulan ships suck compared to Feds and here is the typical blind Feds whining about how OP they are...can't have it both ways...they cant be sucky and OP.
(I'm klink btw)
while people do whine, I think you are missing the point
if I want to optimize a char, it has to be romulan, everything else is crit-gimped, even if it's only a little, people fly around with 100%+ crtd (severity) so every little bit of +crit counts
that's ... not super-fun
it was refreshing to play straight fed/klink again, but also frustrating knowing that they are not worth developing
nausican's pirate trait is quite alright actually and the human leadership trait isn't too shabby either (although not offensive)
I think they should simply make use of the BOFF trait UI...at the moment it is "locked" but it seems that it was designed to be customizable.
Purchaseable traits for BOFFs will probably be something they plan to introduce in the future otherwise the "BOFF trait select menu" simply wouldn't exist.
As a Fed or KDF captain you can actually have 1-3 rom superior opperatives and 2 pirates (hirarchy boff and a nausican boff from the diplomacy contact)
I checked the embassy, the only things that had operative or superior op were tactical officers, as far as I know unless you are a rom char, you can't get the trait on sci or eng
yeah, he's good (no crit, but it's nice) he's actually what got me thinking, a few more special boffs and it could be evened out more
yeah, that's spot on
Also, the order of preference for boff traits, as far as dealing damage goes, is SRO > Pirate > Efficient > Leadership. Obviously, if you're a romulan you'd want the Delta Pack with SRO & SupInf.
The Romulan "alliance" being entirely one-way makes no sense.