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You know, laser beam dinosaurs left earth more than 200 000 years ago.
Maybe the voth was apart of this alliance that dealt with the iconians.
Maybe voth doctrine has mention of the iconians.
Maybe we shouldn't be grav-welling and aoeing the voth by the tens of thousands and ask them if they have had any contact with the iconians?
That being said, the voth only have t5 ships so they are no match for the iconians .
Maybe the voth was apart of this alliance that dealt with the iconians.
Maybe voth doctrine has mention of the iconians.
Maybe we shouldn't be grav-welling and aoeing the voth by the tens of thousands and ask them if they have had any contact with the iconians?
That being said, the voth only have t5 ships so they are no match for the iconians .
Should I start posting again after all this time?
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Yep, we never talked with the Voth. Like never.
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And they have some kind of superiority complex which makes them view all non-reptilian lifeforms as trash.
Soo....yeah... they're not really into this whole "talking about your problems" thing....
Fixed that for you
Those Dinosaurs should of stayed dead 65 Million Years Ago. We're just righting a wrong here.
Considering "The Breach" we're doing a pretty good job at that. Pretty sure that blowing up that fortress ship wasn't far away from committing genocide....yay us?
I disagree. They are our siblings, born on the same planet we call home. We must help them see the truth so we may be united.
But with all the races in the game, that would be the one to ask.
We have crippled main power on the fortress. The ship itself was never destroyed. The mission even says its about cripling it.
Now, the citadel ships.....
Killing them for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Just remember that while you are trying to sleep with their screams in your head.
They may have been able to tell you info on the iconians
Is it really worth it though?
Voyagers run in with the Voth pretty much laid it out plain as day. The Voth cant be reasoned with and the Humans are a threat to their Doctrine. Attempting to talk to anyone outside a handful of Scientists challenging Doctrine. It would be a waste of breath.
And am I the only one that actually went and watched the cutscenes whenever I tiered up? You get to talk to a Voth. You get what every one in here is complaining about not being able to do.
We are diplomatic masters.
At most they are our arrogant neighbours, but then again, who's more arrogant? A species that wants to use Omega Particles to destroy subspace around their own homeworld vs an Alliance that tells them they're not allowed to because... yeah just because we say so. And then we continue to use those Omega particles ourselves.
I can't wait to see some diplomatic efforts, trying to get the Voth to join the Alliance. We're probably going to need them, they're the most advanced non-god like species that we know of and can regularly interact with. It won't be easy, but it won't be impossible either. We know there are Voth who are critical about their Doctrine. The first Voth we ever saw was, in fact, very reasonable.
BTW, a side note: remember the movie Independence Day?
WE are the aliens, actually....
Not sure what Star Trek shows youve been watching. But just about every time Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer attempted to offer an olive branch they were smacked in the face.
Im not saying diplomacy didnt win out. But Starfleet is far from anything that can be called diplomatic masters.
We don't know that. We saw three reasonable scientists, Nelen and Gegen and his assistant from Voyager. And we saw one arrogant Minister.
For all we know, there's a huge underground movement of Voth who don't believe in Doctrine. It's been more than 30 years since Gegen launched his theory. A lot can happen in that time, as we've seen with several other species in the Delta Quadrant.
People have said that Cardassians (and Romulans) aren't racist jerks, just that they're led by wrong people. Why couldn't the same be true for the Voth?
After all, there is only truth...
I sense a new story arc here... :P
umm pay attention to your DOFF missions while in the sphere... several deal with contacting voth rebels :P
Yall hairless apes just dont want a Gorn/Voth allaince to remove you from the Alpha/Beta quadrants thats all
It's the Starfleet way!
We're the least effective of all species, hell, even the Kazon would do better.
Well, okay, not the Kazon, but... XD
We should all vote for The Elder Tribble to be the next Galactic President!
I imagine humans control Starfleet for the most part, because Starfleet was originally a human organization.
However, the current Federation President is a Saurian. Pretty sure the dude before him was also a non-human, too.
..... because Starfleet and The Federation are actually two separate organizational entities (which people seem to generally forget or conflate the two as being the same).
That being said, even now in-game, there are plenty of very high ranking non-human officers admiralty NPC's in Starfleet. For example, the dude you almost constantly report to throughout your career, Jorel Quinn, is a Trill.
Besides the saurian federation president and trill admiral, remeber the "dude" who's in chagre of Voyager? Might want to take a closer look on his ears. And then there's the guy who's commanding the current flagship. He's either a human who should go see a doctor or an andorian. There's plenty of non-humans in the important seats in starfleet.
All joking aside, yeah, there are plenty of Voth that aren't "in bed" with the whole doctrine thing. Like has been mentioned, all the doff missions in the sphere to contact rebels, and hell you even recruit one as a boff and can get Voth doffs. Why can't we ask them what they know about the Iconians?
Of course, it may turn out that the Voth were a former servitor race and that's why they hate everyone. Their doctrine could've been influenced by the Iconians.
I am DAMNED sure there are Voth asking for Federation help in coming over.
And start a new life in Federation Space.
Or Klingon space, or even Borg Space for all I care, but you get the point.
It would only be logical, to have Voth with us.
They may have never met...if it was somewhere 200k years ago...the Iconians were 300k years ago
So there potentially is a gap of many thousands of years between the Iconian defeat and the Voth leaving Earth.
Uh, not thousands.
Millions.
The Voth left the Earth millions of years ago. They are contemporaries of the dinosaurs.
The only reason their technology isn't as advanced as the Iconians (or moreso) is because their goofball Doctrine forbids too rapid of a technological development rate.
Like, they had to argue with themselves for thousands of years when they went to decide whether they should break the traditional warp barriers, when they discovered that they could.
It's entirely possible that they have individual pieces of technology and even starships that could be several hundred, maybe even several hundred thousand years old, simply because their advancement in sciences and manufacturing has been artificially TRIBBLE by their religion.
Yup in star trek there would be a peacefull solution and everyone would be friends and all would be sunshine and lolipops...
But this is STO which its own doctrine is "We come in peace shoot to kill" so
Federation , Romulans, and klingons in sphere
Voth and undine in sphere
Possible link with the iconians maybe we should ask them?
Pfffft this is STO lets just shoot them instead