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Does every featured episode need a guest star?
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Just something I've been pondering. Have we reached the point where STO needs to keep attaching prolific guest stars to every featured episode release just to keep the numbers up and the game's story interesting? As much as I like seeing more Trek characters and their respective actors make it into the game, the whole buddy cop thing is becoming tiresome.
How do you guys feel about it?
How do you guys feel about it?
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If I had the choice, I'd rather they devote money to programmer payroll instead of getting an actor in the sound studio for a day or so.
I also heard that STO is going to only hire California-based union voice talent, and people who actually participated in the shows. This means people like Gabriel Wolf and Lani Minella have effectively been fired despite all their contributions to the game previously.
Which, if that's the case... only makes me want more money devoted to developer talent instead of acting talent. My ears barely work anyway, so the loss of vocals will not be particularly missed anyway.
Yes.
Because Cryptic needs an incentive for them to figure out new ways to extract real money from their player base.
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That being said i would just be happy for them to make it so you can skip every cutscene in this game, the forced ones get a tad annoying and i just end up alt-tabbing until they end, would it really kill them to just let me skip it like the rest, i'm not watching it either way
Considering all the bugs and server instability in this game, there are definitely better places to put that money.
Then again, what do I know. These actors might generate a lot of press which attracts players. None of us looks at cryptic's books so maybe there really are tons of people out in the Miral Paris Fan Club who will now start playing the game.
Also, what cypherous said.
VO vs. Bugfixes, I would choose bugfixes though. Because both cost money, you cant have both. At least not on a scale that makes one happy.
I agree, more of the 5 episode FE's would be great, gives people a reason to log in.
Well you can actually, the audio department wont be working on bug fixes, they are the ones recording and making new audio content, so on a scale of time and resources it wont impact the actual coders, the only place where it "might" be a choice is when it comes to money, without seeing cryptics bank balance its hard to say
While the in-state move is kinda well im going to be blunt "****ty"
I have to disagree, I think a majority of games these days have way more immersion because of the voice acting and even though visually the game is a bit old *cough*, it does make up for it with the various voice overs done as it brings the episodes and scenes to life (well.. most of them) I like reading just like the next person but being forced to read absolutely everything in a game which is supposed to be about playing not reading is well.....annoying to say the least. I am the type of person who likes to "lose myself" in the game like so many others, the voice acting is a huge part of that.
A majority of MMO's have realized this as well in recent years which is why a lot of them even free to play ones are using voice actors nows no matter how popular or unpopular the game is because we've been there and done that with the whole "gotta read em all" and frankly its gotten boring.
So long as the voice acting is good im fine with it and consider how much they charge for things its not like the cost is losing them money. Honest they surely make more money than they lose since the R&D update.. I mean sheesh.
As for content, lets face it... even if you threw all the money in the world at them... which frankly every star trek fan tries to that likes the game, I highly doubt we'd be in a different position considering what's been happening to the game in the last few months (prior to the Delta recruit stuff - which im actually enjoying surprisingly)
i wouldnt mind a balance between a reasonably good but cheap actor or actress in the soundroom for a few hours and the rest of it goes on things thats actually help this game. i mean silly things like pandering to the pvp community and the elitists is not a priority cryptic should foolow. it should use the resources that give everyone some quality, to which this game has never seen in its 5 years to date.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
The difference being if for example they had Sir Patrick Stewart doing his voice over he would sound like Picard as he would put himself in character correctly this is because he has had a varied career involving TV/Radio/Stage and Movies i.e more experience. Though it would probably cost a small fortune to get him in the studio given how busy he is. Having said that he does Family Guy and American Dad frequently so I'm not so sure on that.
I mean Lisa LoCicero was in Voyager for like 5 mins at best. Once you've done these missions once it's too easy to F spam through the dialogue on reruns.
If they got Kate Mulgrew or Patrick Stewart then I might be impressed, but generic voice actors would be more than enough in my mind.
small fortune? hah! more like cryptics entire quarterly budget!
Patrick is a really high profile actor like Ian Mackellan, George Takei, Walter Koenig and of course Bill Shatner. Unless Patrick is open to being paid less then he would like, otherwise i dont ever see the likes of Patrick ever coming to STO.
Dont compare the budget of Seth MacFarlane's buisness to that of Cryptics because quite simply; Family guy and American dad are significant in the mainstream and as such rake in cash far more then Cryptic could ever dream of. Meanwhile Cryptic is contained to obscurity in the games market, barely acknowledged by the majority of the MMO community, managed by PWE under a budget and told to do this or that and resort to nickle and diming/penny pinching to make ends meet, no matter how much of a low blow it is.
Seth's business can easily bring Patrick on the show, or any great actor or actress if he wants, for as long as family guy rakes in millions of viewers per episode it will remain very profitable and so he can get away with it without much issue.
But the plus side to getting Patrick on, is that hes such a great actor that its hard not to get a a lot of media attention around the whole thing, but that works both ways, if cryptic tried it and got him on the game, if more people came to the game and show how poor quality the game is compared to others, they could end up getting cruified for that alone and Patrick would probably then reconsider any further adventure to the game -- and perhaps even remove this attempt from the game altogether by yanking the likeness.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Give me a break STO Forums. This is why so many dont take this place seriously. Its all about finding the next thing to cry about on here.
Game immersion is a subjective topic, considering it depends on how the person in question is immersed in what they are doing and why.
if you dont feel it good for you, but not all of us run around going "pew pew" everytime we play
Im not saying that the ALL of the voice acting was good either however I don't entirely blame the actors for it, the director needs to step it up and try to get some emotion out of the lines instead of letting them be static.
example: Jeri ryan did an excellent job in DR, Yes she's an already established actor however thats just one example of how voice actors can make it far more entertaining.
(I will admit however that the lines did come across as a bit too over-emotional for her character, sure the character would of "evolved" over the years but it didnt feel fluid it just felt forced, but thats not her fault it was the director and how it was directed).
Oh sure, I do it my selffffffffffffffffffffffffffff :P, but seriously its good to have it there because sometimes you want to skip it sometimes you want to play it through again so its good to have the option + its preferable to reading through everything for every new episode...got pretty sick of that over the years especially in WoW lol (the basic quests etc in the early days)
@everyone:
I really dont get these forums, theres so much negativity here but when I talk to others in game people are fairly positive....
and no forumers dont know more than people who dont use the forums lol
^ exactly why I don't take the forums seriously.
I like the good debate but reading this place is draining sometimes.
So is comprehending some of the stupid things that are said as well lol
so your considering general game immersion to an opinion? okay, so you want to compare a car to a brickwall, thats not my business anymore...
Game immersion on sto is simple, starfleet and the klingons were at war, each faction had their own ships based on federation and klingon designs. both sides never had alien starships in their ranks serving in fleets and doing missions, ever. so that immersive factor was broken the moment player captains got the bug ship back in 11'. so if that was so easily broken its not going to be the last time either. thats a fact, its not an opinion and there is nothing subjective about it.
jeri ryan's acting is wooden at best. but then again Denise Crosby's first attempt wasnt that great either. in order to make a better point to your exampl, Jeri needs more time on STO. you think cryptic will take note? :P
if you dont like it then dont post here. but complaints on this forum happens all the time and its a way of life on these forums for those who come. also what your doing when you wrote that is ironically what you are attacking others over as well. complaining, so much for not serious. :P
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Sure, the first time it's awesome, but then you ends up skipping dialogue anyway, because you need to grind the mission for the set/whatever.
With 5 characters, and the need to run the mission around 3 times, depending of the mission, that's 15times the same dialogues. It's getting really old really fast. No matter who's the speaker.
Thats interesting because even though the peeps around here and the ones I have contact to in game are only the same in very few cases the forum echo is pretty often a very accurate representation of in game conditions and attitudes I encounter in my surrounding.
Back on topic. Well I always like it when original voice actors from Star Trek appear in STO. Nevertheless its something I consider more of an could use thingy while other areas recourses could be spend like bug fixes and quality issues more of an must have.
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Oh what I mean is that F keying isn't the problem, it's that based on personal experience I only listen to the dialogue once then the second time I run the mission I just spam it so the voice acting is kinda lost on me.
So even though they could be Trek actors the novelty wears off after the first run.
I have no problem with the option to skip especially with long cut scenes.
I'm pretty sure very few ppl "got a tingle" from hearing Jtlaya in the last EP that had Harry Kim in it .
Having said that, that specific EP was very well written and ended up being quite enjoyable in it's own, but not necessarily because of the guest star .
Miral Paris will fall into the same category .
Jerry Ryan's Seven for example fell very flat (no pun intended) for me . Her character's emotions of regret and sorrow flat out didn't deliver the weight of the words .
But all in all, if a character/ dialogue / story stand's on its own, then that should be enough at this point .
I'm not sure if we're dealing with a SWTOR envy here or Geko's personal obsessions, either way if the choice is between this and more playable content -- I vote fore more content .
Your opinion (and a very ignorant and biased one at that). I watched all seven years of Voyager. None of the Voyager actors sounded like they were reading from a script; they sounded exactly like their TV counterparts. You're clearly confusing the drone-like intonation of some of the characters for bad acting. Tuvok and Seven of Nine are supposed to sound emotionless; he is a classic reserved Vulcan, and she had been a Borg for most of her life before being liberated as an adult.
Also, contrary to your assertion that barely anyone has done stage work, Ethan Philips, Garrett Wang, and Robert Picardo have done stage work. Tim Russ and Picardo have also done voiceover work before in both movies and video games. He (Picardo) was Johnny Cab from Total Recall.
Okay? I know people have this thing of believing that ST actors are just slobs who started working yesterday, but many of them were actually veterans of stage and screen before landing a gig on a ST series. They're not "shlubs" needing "advice" on how to act or do voiceovers, especially not from pimply-faced gaming geeks who've never acted a day in their lives.