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stuart1965
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I know this was mentioned a long time ago, but i can't remember what the ourtcome was.
Will there ever be the opportunity to fly a ship from the bridge instead of outside the ship?
Because I frequently use my d'kora bridge, that made me think of it.
Any thoughts on this???
Will there ever be the opportunity to fly a ship from the bridge instead of outside the ship?
Because I frequently use my d'kora bridge, that made me think of it.
Any thoughts on this???
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Essentially, while your avatar exists your ship does not exist within the game, and vice-versa... So in order to allow you to pilot your ship from the bridge it would require a substantial rewrite of the engine, to allow both to exist at the same time within the game...
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Conclusion, no.
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Nahh, for the authentic experience you need someone to explode your computer AND kick you out of your chair
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I'd be happy if the bridge view was available when warping between systems, especially after the sector space change.
I'd like to be the first to throw a big "THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!" out to the Devs!
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Mistake or taking the TRIBBLE?
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Already posted that..... you didn't read the thread did you?
Well, looking at the date of today....
Dangit lindaleff, ninja'ing me...
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Suspected it might have been, hence taking the TRIBBLE...
so to be honest with you guys as it would be cool then technically to make it real cryptic would have to code new game from the very scratch....
Well, it is a certain day in some time zones by now......
Edit: Woops, never mind.
That's odd... the link was there a min ago...
ETA: It moved, here's the new link. Sorry about that.
Here you go, list of FCTs. Scroll down a little ways.
This is something where you'd have to actually put in work and then just hand it over to the players without 18 months of timegates and dil sinks...
But make no mistake about it, that long essay from the FCT is hogwash so keep asking in recognition of still not having had the straight answer.
You have no idea what your talking about if you really think it's hogwash. Let's get right down to it, the game, add its built, does not support both your ship and your character existing at the same time. Why? Because they are both essentially the same thing. When you go to space, your not actually "boarding" your ship, you are going to a space map where your character model is replaced with your ship model.
If you don't believe me, there's an old bug from beta where the model transition didn't always work and you could have your character the size of a ship, walking in space, or your ship the size of a person flying around a ground map. I'm sure you could find video on YouTube.
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The 'Cannot be done, because you are the ship!' argument is indeed hogwash, though: there's nothing preventing them from just drawing an extra (void) you sitting in the Captain's chair, if they really wanted to. Point just is: *I* don't want them to.
Nope. That one's broke, too. Here is the one you really meant to post.
I would like to point out that Uneasy Allies seems to break this. At one point your ground model is in the conference room with Sela discussing what will be found in Nopada while your ship is on the viewscreen behind her. Both models can be present simultaneously.
However, because it's on the vewscreen the scale is obviously way off, the ship is only a bit larger than a humanoid (depending on ship class). There's also the issue of this being a cinematic, the player has no control at this point. To actually pilot the ship from the bridge would require the player model be significantly smaller because other players still need to see the ship at full size while the player would need to actually be inside the ship to occupy the same space, and given the scaling issues that have been discussed with the sector space revamp, it doesn't sound like that would be possible at present. And then there would be the animation issues. It wouldn't be particularly immersive (and that's what this really boils down to) if the player models inside the ship were only able to perform fixed animations rather than responding dynamically to the action, something we haven't yet seen in ship combat.
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However, there's definitely more that could be done with ship interiors. Prior to being able to transwarp to pretty much any location I need to I always wished I could spend that travel time on the ship's interior rather than staring at sector space go by. Basically "beam up" to the ship's bridge, Conn officer presents a system list similar to the map, selecting that system starts a timer and then alerts you to the fact you have arrived and you can then "beam" off your bridge and end up at the system you selected. Basically just avoid sector space for travel times.
With transwarp this concept isn't really needed since travel times have been mostly eliminated in the game. One great addition to the game would be missions designed to be run from your ship's interior. We've seen some basic interactions in the Romulan featured series where you go to your ready room to parse data. Perhaps some diplomatic missions or other non-combat style missions could be developed that are accessed and take place on your bridge/ship's interior.
Someday I'd love to see additional functionality for the ship's interiors. It feels like there's a huge untapped potential just waited to be explored.
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No, you're not, Taco. It's just that there are a lot of whiny cry babies that are being told "No", so they are throwing a temper tantrum.
Maybe the only thing our captains really need are a few short cut scenes with our Captains, on the bridge, saying things like -
Captain - "Shields up! Weapons hot! Tac?
Tactical Officer - "Aye, sir? Enemy ship is closing to weapons range."
Captain (stern look) - "Fire at will!!"
Tactical Officer (grinning) - "Firing at will, sir!"
Just a thought.
Edit - Actually, if you think about it, the eps and movies the combat is space combat intersperse with bridge shots/dialog so STO got it right. And those left screen pop ups are doing the job of the cut scenes I just suggested.
Do please cite your reasons as to why you think its "hogwash"
I am very curious to hear about your coding experience specifically with the engine that cryptic uses for STO
The easiest really would most likely be just to do it by changing the UI to look more like your in a seat looking at the view screen, this would pretty much use sections of your in use bridge to place something like a over sized border, including some of your arms,legs and chair matched to your costume around the regular screen which would act as the view screen.
The Bridge officer stations could then be kind of modified to appear as whichever officer was in command of the station standing at a console, these officers could then be moved individually where ever on the screen you wanted and their actual powers would appear with them at the station for clicking.
The main problem with something like this would be it would kind of be distorted first person wise due to the view screen just showing the typical view angle however it could also be argued that that is kind of the view that would be cycling in a good captains head as they combined it with all of the incoming data to form their strategies.
This would essentially just be a new UI option tho admittedly if it included some shaking and damage animations it could be pretty cool really, maybe have certain commands animate the arms and legs and such or cause officers models to do a emote, various options for the energy and weapons displays and such would be nice as well like a chair mounted display or something you could setup or below view screen readouts. Could be fun.