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drake122svk
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My overflow bag is full of these items and they cant be discarded. It was supposedly fixed in the lastest patch but they are still in my bag and if I click discard nothing happens.
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* Take them out of your Overflow Bag before attempting to Discard them.
* Try double-clicking them, instead of Discarding.
If neither of the above work, please post additional information if you have it. Anything you can think of. Bumping a thread without adding additional information is technically against the forum's guidelines, FYI.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
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could I add something here, I had 100s. I mean 100s of these. I had to get a macro program to do it for me. After spending 10-15 minutes of just deleting.
Its likely that the OP just has so many it doesn't look like its doing anything.
Really you shouldn't make players fix this. Your team should have cleared them instead of making us do the work for a bug you claim you had a fix for but let run a week.
They always let bugs run for a week, its apparently an absolutely horrible idea to push a patch out more than once a week ... never seen another MMO company that followed that thought process. Heck, some can now even push minor fixes without bringing their servers down.
I'm sure many people would have rather had the servers down for a couple hours last friday or this monday than deal with the CCA no spawn, no completion bug for a full seven days ...
Running a script on every single player container on the database would likely cause catastrophic server performance issues. This is really in the best interest of all players, not a decision we've made out of laziness or spite.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
Hehe, yeah I've done this on a personal program... not fun, perhaps putting a dialogue option on an NPC to remove undesired items from one's inventory? This would eliminate the script from running on every player, and woud give players a way to quickly remove these annoying items from thier inventories.
And your Weekly Maintenances, are for what exactly?
Precisely the right time to do such a thing, server-side without players needing to do your dirty work for you.
just read it more slowly from his first post
The server is brought down once a wek to handle things like this ...And feed the hamster
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The script that does it can't run when the server is down (just like you can't play STO when your computer is turned off), these fix it scripts are run when the player logs in and accesses the data.
I don't think the players need a ton a lag because a few people are too lazy to clean out their bags.
Really now? Blaming the players, for Cryptic's TRIBBLE ups? If Cryptic hadn't screwed up in the first place, we wouldn't be forced to clean up their mess.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
Does anyone still have these items in their inventory?
~Smirk
I would assume you have the ability to define scripts or code to be executed onLogon(), to pick an arbitrary name for the function--seems like a pretty fundamental hook to design into any kind of server application.
If a script to perform a server-wide wipe of these deprecated items is impractical for performance or risk reasons (computationally expensive, impactful to the UX) and can't for whatever reason be performed during scheduled downtime, what about instead triggering a script onLogon() which does the following during a character's initialization:
The advantage of this approach is that it limits the back end performance overhead of the query not just by scanning only one character/player at a time on an as-needed basis, but by restricting the activity to only occur when a character first logs in--before they are likely to personally notice any plausible delay. It also avoids all the overhead of scanning inactive player accounts (though that could just as easily be accomplished by filtering for last login time).
You wouldn't need to leave this in place for very long--a month or two perhaps. That would catch the vast majority of affected players and minimize the amount of cleanup that needs to be done later.
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Yeah, I have a couple of characters that still have these. Haven't gotten around to fishing them out of my overflow bags yet. lol
Why should i spend hours clicking that stuff to delete it, or making macros to take care of it - I did nothing to cause these items to appear in the first place. Either fix your own mess Cryptic, or don't, I don't care, but don't force me to do "your job" for you.
I'm just trying to help you solve a problem you've encountered. If you don't want to accept the solution, that's up to you.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
Which character still has them? Can you tell me the character name and make sure to get a few of the items into your inventory (out of the overflow bag) so you can be our QA teams test subject?
No problems:
Chandra@Orion0029 - 7 in overflow bag, 5 in inventory
Kaylee@Orion0029 - 4 in overflow bag, 5 in inventory
Hope this helps, please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Oh, and please mind her hair, I just had it detailed... :P
I'm not blaming players for anything, but maybe English isn't your native language and that is beyond your understanding.
Mistakes happen that cause messes, sometimes you just need to suck it up and clean it up. If you buy a defective jug of milk that spills on your floor, the dairy isn't going to send someone to clean it up for you. If you get a defective toner cartridge that gets toner all over the place when you try and install it, the toner manufacturer isn't going to send someone to clean it up for you. None of these things are users fault, but that's life, sometimes you just have to suck it up.
Asking for a server fix that will massively lag out the servers because you don't want to clean out your overflow bag, which really doesn't even need to be cleaned out, since its the overflow bag, because you are too lazy to clean out a bag that doesn't need to be cleaned out, is selfish, to say the least.
And now it looks like they are going to be wasting dev time trying to find a fix for lazy, time that could have been spent working on other more important fixes. GG
Still, it's nice to link a "Temporal Warfare" item in the fleet chat.