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Will DS9 and the Cardi's get some attention?
captainchaos66
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It seems over the last few years in STO we've had a TON of attention given to several areas:
Romulan Faction
Redoing of the first dozen game missions
Redoing of the Romulan Storyline for Fed players
Delta Quadrant and tons of new missions and story content.
I could go on, however as the title asks: Will DS9 and the Cardassian/dominion missions get any love in the future?
The Dominion F.E. Arc is still one of the best in the game IMO. The missions are large in scope, with the exception of the shuttle one,,, not a fan. One of my favorite things about the Dominion story series is it draws from actual Canon Events in DS9 ( one of the best few episodes in DS9 I might add) and continues that story.
Now, Dominion F.E.s certainly don't need to be redone,, perhaps some fine tuning with the cut scenes, however the other Cardassian missions are definitely showing there age. Perhaps doing with them what was done with the Romulan story missions, but not so dramatic,,, would be worth while. Condensing many missions into a few is NEVER a good thing, however, taking some of the notsogood cardi missions and combining them together, keeping the good points, and eliminating the not so good points could produce some pretty damned good missions.
With the impending Iconian War about the erupt across STO ( looking forward to that) It begs the question: What comes after? Gamma Quadrant?
Romulan Faction
Redoing of the first dozen game missions
Redoing of the Romulan Storyline for Fed players
Delta Quadrant and tons of new missions and story content.
I could go on, however as the title asks: Will DS9 and the Cardassian/dominion missions get any love in the future?
The Dominion F.E. Arc is still one of the best in the game IMO. The missions are large in scope, with the exception of the shuttle one,,, not a fan. One of my favorite things about the Dominion story series is it draws from actual Canon Events in DS9 ( one of the best few episodes in DS9 I might add) and continues that story.
Now, Dominion F.E.s certainly don't need to be redone,, perhaps some fine tuning with the cut scenes, however the other Cardassian missions are definitely showing there age. Perhaps doing with them what was done with the Romulan story missions, but not so dramatic,,, would be worth while. Condensing many missions into a few is NEVER a good thing, however, taking some of the notsogood cardi missions and combining them together, keeping the good points, and eliminating the not so good points could produce some pretty damned good missions.
With the impending Iconian War about the erupt across STO ( looking forward to that) It begs the question: What comes after? Gamma Quadrant?
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I'm going to have to disagree on that. Especially the latter part of the Dominion arc never made much sense to me.
First, when DS9 is still in the Federation's hands, everyone has to abandon the station because a Dominion fleet is approaching. Then, because the Federation wants to solve things peacefully, they send you in a shuttle to the Gamma Quadrant while an entire fleet and its crewmen are risking their lives to distract the Dominion's attention. The Dominion will only assist if the Founder is releasesd, who, judging from her in-game text doesn't seem to realise there's a reason why she's being held in facility 4028 in the first place. So the Founder is released, only so that the player can find out that she isn't exactly helpful.
So basically the Dominion does nothing to solve a problem they created in the first place, the only help they provided was to upset Karu'kan. And in the end things are solved when an entire fleet approaches (so much for a peaceful solution, that fleet and the other fleet that was used as a distraction might as well had attacked the station if they were powerful enough, which they obviously are) after the player has boarded the station, alone. That same station that you couldn't defend when it was still in Federation hands, operational and filled with Federation and Klingon crewmen.
This entire story arc has so many plot holes that it's more of one big plot hole with a little story, rather than a story with some plot holes.
Those missions are quite fun to play, but no, in my opinion, they don't tell a great story. If they redid this arc, then rewriting the story would almost be a necessity.
They took a vote on this stuff a few years ago of what players wanted to focus new content on from which new shows... either Voyager or DS9
The vote swung majorly towards Voyager, which is why you see a lot of content focusing on that at the moment, and will for some time
Perhaps at the end of the game's life, they may finally do a DS9 arc
The fact they relegated a new Jem'Hadar ship as part of an R&D pack suggests, this is all we're getting Dominion wise for a long time... and perhaps to test the waters
there was never a straight vote between voyager and ds9. it was between all series and frankly a good argument could be made that all other series votes combined was higher than the winning vote for voyager. so they never had an absolute majority from what I recall
in answer to the op. yeah not any time soon. if your lucky next year. 1/4 of this year has past and they want us to make new characters called delta recruits and play all the exisiting content again... if you haven't already done that
so much for geko and his 2015 is going to be story heavy. /faceinpalm
Yes, I recall it was between all the series
But one could argue that the rest of the series were already pretty well represented at the time
TNG and DS9 influences are everywhere
The only thiing DS9 left to do is to give the Cardi's a LOR revamp and rehash more Dominion War stuff
I would love if STO would expand on the lore of what the Gamma Quadrant could hold besides just the Dominion, but they'd still be a central figure of course
I gotta agree here. The setup of this series was nice, but the ending was awful.
1. Jem'Hadar would never betray the orders of a Founder. They're literally programed to do that, on the genetic level.
2. The Founder does seem sorta... aloof to the reason she is being held. It was partially her decision, and more importantly, she seemed to have a major change of heart after linking with Odo in the finale of DS9.
3. Why are we all "grins and giggles" with the Dominion at the end of the episode? Female Vorta was like "Well, that was awkward, wasn't it?" Lame. The Dominion came very close to wiping out the AQ powers... you wouldn't forget something like that in ~40 years. (After all, the Dominion surrendered on a technicality... see #2.)
Well, I hope it's not a long time...
I would agree with the second part of your statement, a "testing of the waters" of sorts... however, I also wouldn't read too much into the release of SuperBug, either way.
It all depends on how long this Iconian War lasts... we have two threads left open, one is obviously related to the war (Sela), and the nugget about the Krenim. Once those get resolved... my hopes are late 2015 to 2016 to get to the Gamma.
They will NEED to bring in the Dominion
It was already noted that the Solanae considered the Dominion a threat to the Iconians and to not engage unless the Iconians had the combined powers of an entire qudrant at their disposal
I haven't seen anything indicated the Krenim are incoming,, however I likely just missed it. I would LOVE to see the Krenim in STO, however I cant really wrap my brain around how they would do it? They could use the basic story from " Year of Hell" and make it into F.E.s but that would be far from original. With the hint about a " temporal" arc in the Delta Recruit thing that coming up I lean more towards a temporal " coldwar" type of scenario than a Krenim story. However it is handled im sure it will be in STO's usual way...
Risian4 As far as the plot holes in the Dominion F.E. arc.. absolutely agree. I guess I was thinking more about gameplay then story when I mentioned how good they were. Compared to the newest episodes they are outdated technically and story wise,,, however back when they first appeared, imo, they were fairly impressive.
My hope is they Cryptic slows down a bit... by a bit I mean ALOT,, with the new ships every two weeks,, and starts to roll out more episodes and mission content. On that note id like to add a topic: Ground maps under utilized!
The recent addition of the kabali groundzone was OK. Its a nice map,but the Vaadwaur are a PAIN THE AAAAAARRRRRSSSSSEEEE on the ground unless you have TOP NOTCH gear and the will to die a bunch of times! I think maps like Nimbus 3 should have a max level story driven adventure zone style missions added to them. Hell,, even if they took the existing missions,, tweaked the story a bit,, added some recent baddies it would make a great place for ground battle. Seems to me ground combat has lagged behind for some time now. All those DAMN Patrol missions in the Delta Missions and they couldn't throw in ONE or TWO ground missions? I realize they need content to push the shiny new ships,, but come on... who doesn't get bored at least a LITTLE with PEW PEW space missions ALL THE TIME??????????
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It's been seen that the Iconians are very active in Dominion space... and it can be argued that whatever is causing the Dominion to close off the borders to focus on other issues could be Iconican related.
If this is the case then what'll happen is that the Delta Quadrant will run it's course here in a year or two then we'll be shuttled to the Gamma Quadrant to fix whatever issues the Dominion is facing with the Iconians... probably with an expansion... so in this case it'll be in a year or two... maybe May or Nov 2016 or so?
If whatever is bothering the Dominion isn't the Iconian related then Cryptic will wind up it's Iconian war... and then we'll expand into the Gamma Quandrant with the new big bad being whatever is messing with the Dominion. In this case I see it in 2 to 3 years... somewhere around 2017ish....
Either way I don't see a major push into the Gamma Quandrant at all until at least next year if not later... and not until after they update the DS9 storylines....
That one mission in the Featured Series where we did explore a tiny section of Gamma Qaudrant... was exciting... despite we saw nothing but probes and an asteroid field
LOL!!! So much this!
I've often said, while flying around the DQ, "This sucks, why am I even out here?!" :P
NO more DS9 content. FFS, the last several years have been DS9-centric. The "new" bugship proves that it's STILL DS9-centric. NO MORE DS9!
Geko and his metrics would do well to understand that time-travel is widely considered one of the absolute favored topics in all of Star Trek! And nothing has been selling so well as their Temnporal lock box ships.
Tl;dr: make it so on the Krenim!
When you're chasing Quantum Duplicate Harry in the last episode its revealed that Voyager is in Kremin space. Its also referred to as "enemy territory" and there's a vaadwaur comm log somewhere around the DR patrols that state that the Kremin have been conquered by the Vaadwaur.
You could easily have the Kremin in next season as a new enemy that's resorted to Temporal warfare to drive out the invading forces (and subsequently all those that stand in their way.)
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Pretty much this, exactly. I also think Geko said in a P1 podcast interview that the anniversary mission would give a hint as to the direction of the story... I know for a fact he said they want to hit a few major stories in the DQ, and it would not surprise me if Annorax was one of them.
Because Romulans, Dyson spheres, Undine, and the Delta Quadrant are all solely related to DS9...
As well as the Voth, Undine, Xindi, Delta, and Vaadwaur lock boxes...
As well as the release of the Dauntless, Pathfinder, Command Battlecruisers, and Intel ships...
THE MADNESS MUST END. :P
Thank you....needed to be pointed out.
Well, when the truth is glaring you in the face, LOL...
What dimension are you in? Cuz I would love to go there where DS9 was central content in STO for "several years".
It's been Voyager, TNG, and Enterprise content for several years by my watch. Other than the Featured Series years ago, DS9 has been quiet.
One new bug ship and you flip... you must really hate the show because DS9 has barely gotten attention since all this Delta Quadrant and LOR stuff.