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Alien Female Romulan side changes race to Romulan and applies costume restrictions.

tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
edited April 2015 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
When choosing the female alien species on green side, it changes your race automatically to Romulan instead of Alien at level 10, and applies some costume restrictions from character creation, such as height being the bottom restriction of 5'6, wheras the alien normally has 4'6. In game, your race is displayed as Alien until you comple the choosing sides mission at level 10, of which your race is changed to Romulan.

This does not happen to Starfleet or Klingon characters. Nor does it happen to the male on Romulan side. It is only specifically the female alien on Romulan side.

It has been 5-6 months since I've been on, and this was present then. however, back then, the change only occurred after choosing your path at level 10. Up till then, you were still alien, and the restrictions were not present. But now, it is from the very start. The character creation has this restriction.

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It may only be height that is being restricted. I'm unsure of whether or not there are other restrictions.

I spent a little time and created a new character to see if this was still present, and it is.

Between level 1-9, the costume restriction was present.

This is the level 9 point right before choosing a side. My race says Alien:
http://puu.sh/8ZKZ4.jpg

And then this, is right after completion of choosing side, of which I am now Romulan:
http://puu.sh/8ZL2o.jpg
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I created an alien female romulan 1 month ago and i dont have those issues. Everything is normal. Im level 48 now. So, maybe its something about your toon specifically?
  • tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I created an alien female romulan 1 month ago and i dont have those issues. Everything is normal. Im level 48 now. So, maybe its something about your toon specifically?

    Or is it my account?
    All three characters of mine are alien female for romulans, and they all have this error. Have you tried going to the costume editor and checking the minimum height? For aliens it should be 4'6.

    As said, this is also upon creating a new character.

    Check your female allien romulans character info. If it says Alien, then I'm not sure what's going on. But for me it says Romulan.

    http://puu.sh/8YLbL.jpg
    http://puu.sh/8YLsS.jpg
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Yup, thats the first thing i did. It says Alien, not romulan. But i tell u, with so many bugs the game has right now, it could be something related to your account, any item or who knows. Its really hard to tell, and if you sent a ticket and you didnt get any answer.. well... i dont have a clue.

    But , here is a post related to the tailor -> (just in case you didnt see it).

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=748431
  • tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Not that I'm claiming you're lying about the height issue in the tailor. But could you post a screenshot of a female alien romulan with 4'6 in the tailor?

    http://puu.sh/8ZC5w.jpg

    I am not the only person having this issue.
    A newly created female alien romulan shows race as Alien. But in the past, it did until level 10 when you chose a side. I'm not sure I'm patient enough to get to level 10 and choose a side to see if this still occurs, so I can't say whether or not that particular bug at that point has been fixed. But prior to, when it was present, the height restriction was applied at that level 10 point. Up until then, the tailor bug was not there. Wheras now, it is always there.

    At that point aswell in the past, any costume you may have had before level 10 remained alien throughout, until you modified and saved it, at which point your race would become romulan, and any additional costume slots you opened up would also be Romulan.

    I guess I'll spend the day replaying through this past bug to see if anything has changed.
  • tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Ok.. Bug still present.

    Between level 1-9, the costume restriction was present.

    This is the level 9 point right before choosing a side. My race says Alien:
    http://puu.sh/8ZKZ4.jpg

    And then this, is right after completion of choosing side, of which I am now Romulan:
    http://puu.sh/8ZL2o.jpg

    I have a difficult time believing this is account tied.
    Even after this point, the costume bug is still present.
  • tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    +9 days....
  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2014
    This is on the list for investigation. Thanks for the report.
    STO QA Team
  • comdrivercomdriver Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tsaiuki wrote: »
    Ok.. Bug still present.
    can confirm that. my green alien female became romulan female.
    any chance to change back?
  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2014
    I was able to confirm the issue, wrote it up and sent it on to be fixed. I have no other information at this time.
    STO QA Team
  • tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I was able to confirm the issue, wrote it up and sent it on to be fixed. I have no other information at this time.

    Thankyou for the response!
  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited June 2014
    Good to see a Dev in here addresing problems

    Awesome !
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    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

    JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
  • tsaiukitsaiuki Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The only thing about this that was fixed in the latest patch was the name of the race, which never actually impacted gameplay. The issue itself that DOES effect gameplay remains.
  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    BTW ... I created an Alien Female Rom yesterday, and this same issue still applies, The text isn't the problem, the problem is the Tailor Restriction that are applied. The game essentially treats you toon as a Romulan, which defeats the whole purpose of creating an Alien Toon.
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  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Yup, this was never fixed, on the contrary the devs said (as alwyas). Sigh.
  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2014
    The issue with Romulan Alien female height settings (there is a smaller range of available heights than other aliens) has been verified and sent on for a fix.
    STO QA Team
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Rom Alien females also seem to have fewer eye color options than Fed or KDF aliens.
  • schautigreeschautigree Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It looks like this issue still hasn't been resolved. My 7 foot tall alien female just became 6 foot 4 when I chose a side, and that's the maximum. Her minimum also went from 4' 6" to 5' 6" as has been previously reported. I really want her 8 inches of height back. The character has a totally different feel to it. She went from the jolly green giant to the jolly green kind of tall person. Hopefully it will be fixed one day.
  • schautigreeschautigree Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Just a quick update. It looks like the bug is tailor related. My orginal outfit which I have never modified at the tailor is still 7'. It's like the tailor think I'm a romulan, and not an alien. Weird.
  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I have been reporting this bug for over 1.5 years now. If it really gets fixed I will open a bottle of champagne.

    My stomach is clear and my mind is full of bacon!
  • erebozz86erebozz86 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This fix can't be that difficult, right? It is really annoying that I am unable to edit my pre-lvl-10 outfit or create a new outfit without losing an essential part of my character's appearance :confused:
  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    erebozz86 wrote: »
    This fix can't be that difficult, right? It is really annoying that I am unable to edit my pre-lvl-10 outfit or create a new outfit without losing an essential part of my character's appearance :confused:

    One would think so. But they tried to fix it like two times I think. They had a fix in the tribble notes at one point, I was overjoyed, tried it on tribble, did not work. So they just deleted the line from the patch notes and ignored the bug without further comment.

    I think it took like a year of reporting for them to actually admit the bug existed in the first place. And I suspect they always try to fix the char creation alien which works fine and not the race we become at lvl 10. But that is just a guess at my part.
    Honestly I would expect the problem could be fixed in 5min if we could just talk to a programmer directly. Other than miscommunication I can not imagine a possible reason why they failed to fix this already.

    Than again maybe there is somwthing beyond my understanding going on. Anyway all we can do is keep reporting it. An ig ticket or a thread every few months and hope at some point they will actually fix it.

    A bit of history on the side: with the release of the romulan faction they actually wanted the romulan aliens to have limited size. But after a short time they descided to give them more options, probably due to player feedpack. When the patch hit char creation allowed for what we have now but at lvl 10 you were stuck with the old restrictions. I guess they forgot that something happens at lvl 10. My guess would be the faction is part of the race and by choosing a faction you change your race. That would mean there are 3 romulan aliens and they only fixed one. That is just a theory on my part.
    Anyway the bug is as old as the romulan expansion. Or more accurately the bug exists since they descided to give romulan aliens more options soon after the expansion.

    I guess we could plan an awareness party for the 2 year anniversary of this bug this summer. While this bug gets reported regularly there are still too few to make cryptic care.

    My stomach is clear and my mind is full of bacon!
  • valenjavalenja Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    it would be so nice, if they fixed it to this delta recruitment thing next month ... but i don't think so : /
  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    valenja wrote: »
    it would be so nice, if they fixed it to this delta recruitment thing next month ... but i don't think so : /

    That would be wonderful but it is unlikely. What I would also really like is a statement from cryptic. Someone saying that they are aware that the bug still exists and that we will get a fix sometime.

    My stomach is clear and my mind is full of bacon!
  • schautigreeschautigree Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I loaded up my romulan alien last night, and it looks like they fixed her height in the last patch :)



    Thanks STO! I'm REALLY happy. Hopefully, it's fixed "universally" and not just on my character. I'm just glad she's 7 foot tall again.
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