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Pet Issue

warren0419warren0419 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
edited April 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I have two toons, each flying the breen carrier. One has the 50K EC frigate pets and the other has the 100K FC Frigate pets from the fleet store. so, you would expect the damage of the VERY expensive fleet pets to be at least 10% higher, right? Wrong, the difference is nearly nothing!!! That is stupid. I have no other word for it. Please upgrade the damage of the fleet frigates. do not nerf the non-fleet frigates but increase the damage of the fleet frigates.

Here shte number in case youa re interested...and I flew these each on the Crystaline Cataclysm PVE queue:

fleet Breen Frigate: 1710 DPS, cost 100K FC
Earth Space Dock Breen Frigates: 1695 DPS, cost 50K EC


Please find a away to fix this this month, PLEASE!!!!!

Sparky
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This month? Release a patch todai
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • warren0419warren0419 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Anyone esle have numbers on this?
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    warren0419 wrote: »
    Anyone esle have numbers on this?

    Agreed. We need fleet pet dps brought back to pre-DR levels at a minimum and asap.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    just compare the abilities listed on the pets... that is indicitive of their DPS. Fleet or Dil versions do have more HP/resists thou.

    Also fleet version loses a turret for a energy disruption torp (no dmg on it at all) that can be shot down...
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This has been this way since the Pet DR Nerf, BEFORE the Sheshar was officially announced.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/2q89jq/pet_nerf_findings/

    Information here.
  • warren0419warren0419 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Hi!! Ok l, ran another one...Advanced difficulty, Satellite Repair....


    Elite Frigates (the ones form the fleet): 5500 DPS
    Ultra Rare Frigates (from Spacedock): 4800 DPS

    That is a 13% difference between them, which is better, but still not enough considering the cost difference.

    Most carriers rely on the pets to do most of the damage.....this needs to be addressed.
  • oneratsonerats Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Several issues here. First, the run you're using likely isn't a good dps check. There's going to be a lot of randomness in that run. Even a very consistent run like ISA can give highly variable results depending on what everyone else is doing, and an inconsistent run won't help improve that at all.

    Second, the only real difference in higher level pets is that they get higher tier abilities.. BO 1 becomes BO 2 or 3 for example. However, many pets lack offensive abilities.. so you won't see a big damage increase. The problem likely isn't the fleet/non fleet difference, but that the pet itself just isn't great to begin with.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The pet from the EC store is flagged wrong... it is a Rare Blue Pet but they flagged it as UR. I would ignore the "color" altogether.

    EC Store "UR" Frigate
    Polaron Dual Cannon
    Polaron Cannon
    Polaron Turret
    Trans Torps
    Tachyon Beam 1
    Cannon: Rapid Fire 1
    Torps: High Yield 1
    Raider Flanking


    Dil Store Very Rare Version
    Polaron Dual Cannon
    Polaron Cannon
    Polaron Turret
    Trans Torps
    Tachyon Beam 1
    Cannon: Rapid Fire 2
    Torps: High Yield 2
    Raider Flanking


    Fleet Store UR Version
    Polaron Dual Cannon
    Polaron Cannon
    Energy Dissipator (Destructible Projectile)
    Trans Torps
    Tachyon Beam 1
    Cannon: Rapid Fire 2
    Torps: High Yield 2
    Raider Flanking

    I dont know about you but with all these mobs doing FAW... that Energy Dissipator gets shot down alot... it's also slow and has ZERO dps on it. Unless they up the Fleet version to get TB2, CRF3 and THY3... your losing a turret for a projectile that does ZERO DPS and gets shot down alot with pretty long cool down, assuming it's the same 2 min cool down that players get.
  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    pets have tendency now ( wasn't that way before ) to stick around during warp core breaches . I have had two hangars completely wiped out that way .Either they nerfed the hull strenght of the pets or did something else making them of mediocre usefulness now . The only ones which seem to avoid the breaches are the romulan drones .
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    baelogventure wrote: »
    This has been this way since the Pet DR Nerf, BEFORE the Sheshar was officially announced.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/2q89jq/pet_nerf_findings/

    Information here.

    Quoting this because people need to read the linked post. Here is the most relevant part:
    2) The quality of pet has no impact on the pets performance, DPS or Survivabilty. The pet do so little damage that going from a tier 1 ability to a tier 3 ability is not noticible.

    In other words, don't pay for elite pets, it is a waste of money.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,886 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    warren0419 wrote: »
    Hi!! Ok l, ran another one...Advanced difficulty, Satellite Repair....


    Elite Frigates (the ones form the fleet): 5500 DPS
    Ultra Rare Frigates (from Spacedock): 4800 DPS

    That is a 13% difference between them, which is better, but still not enough considering the cost difference.

    Most carriers rely on the pets to do most of the damage.....this needs to be addressed.

    Most carriers? Besides the Breen ship like every Carrier since the Recluse has had 7-8 weapons...even ships with 2 hangar bays have had 7 weapons and tac heavy.

    Not since the likes of the Vo'quv, Atrox, and Recluse has a carrier ever really *needed* its fighters for DPS.

    Pretty much almost everything that has a hangar that comes out these days has at least 7 weapons and at least 3 tac consoles. I'd hardly say pets do most of their damage...and they shouldn't.

    I'm not saying that maybe they couldn't use a buff...but relying on a pet to do most of your damage is stupid.

    Both should maybe get a flat buff...maybe 10-20% and keep the fighter/frigate difference the way it is...give fighters more of a use then for a ship that doesn't have a frigate option.

    As long as we're talking about it...fighters should get some more evasion...I mean it's silly that NPC fighters are such a pain to hit sometimes yet ours must fly at 1/4th the throttle, they're so easy yo be hit.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,886 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    gavinruneblade wrote: »
    Quoting this because people need to read the linked post. Here is the most relevant part:



    In other words, don't pay for elite pets, it is a waste of money.

    Not always...its a pet by pet basis...like for example Scorpions...Elites get a turret to replace the single cannon and hy I. Actually it is mostly the Frigate pets that aren't worth it...because they almost never get anything more at elite besides a ability upgrade.
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