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Ship Prefix Nitpick

turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
edited March 2015 in The Academy
Can anyone explain why KDF ships have an I.K.S./Imperial Klingon Ship prefix in the game despite the fact that the prefix in the shows was I.K.C./Imperial Klingon Cruiser?

Examples; I.K.C. Amar (TMP), I.K.C. Pagh (TNG: "A Matter of Honor"), I.K.C. T'Ong (TNG: "The Emissary"), I.K.C. Vorn (Duras' ship from TNG: "Reunion"), I.K.C. Tor'Kaht (DS9: "Dramatis Personae")
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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  • johnthomas02johnthomas02 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    IKS was first used in the DS9 episode "Sons of Mogh"
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,494 Community Moderator
    edited March 2015
    We've had IKV as well as IKS used for prefixes.
    There have also been a few different prefixes for Romulan ships including RIS and... something else that seemed to not make any sense to me.
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  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I know that Starfleet Battles has been refering to KDF ships with an IKS prefix since the 1970's. There must have been mention of it in TOS or TAS, possibly even TMP?
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    So, I.K.S. came from DS9, season four or five, something like that? That would mean it's still a relatively 'recent' concept... (Maybe something Gowron came up with, or possibly Emperor Kahless?) right?
    whamhammer1 wrote: »
    I know that Starfleet Battles has been refering to KDF ships with an IKS prefix since the 1970's. There must have been mention of it in TOS or TAS, possibly even TMP?

    Nope, TMP was I.K.C. - That's where the I.K.C. Amar came from, it was one of the Klingon ships in the opening scene.



    Whole reason behind my asking is that I mentioned the I.K.C. T'Ong in a short I wrote based on STO and someone tried to correct me that it was 'I.K.S.' - I pulled out the Okuda's Star Trek Encyclopedia and confirmed it was 'I.K.C.', but it left me wondering...
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • bcwhguderian1941bcwhguderian1941 Member Posts: 804 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I would submit that since we have multiple ship types in STO, (Battlecruisers, Cruisers, Escorts,
    Science Ships, Carriers, etc.), that a "standard" for ship nomenclature makes sense.


    BCW. :)
  • awolzabrakawolzabrak Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Think this is also one of those things were canon versus non-canon comes into play, and therefore things get a little... "hazy."

    Like Data, who died in the movies, and was resurrected at the loss of B-4 and became Capt of Enterprise-E in 2408 (per the game)

    ...or Data, who died in the movies, and was resurrected at the loss of Noonian Soong and resigned Starfleet (per books).

    Similar discrepancies between the game and higher-canon resources like the books can be seen in several other core characters (Janeway readily comes to mind). And don't even get me started with the whole Abrams-verse.

    My rambling point is this - one of the coolest things about Star Trek is the emphasis on alternate realities. While your IKS/IKC research is right on point, I really see all that happens here when I fire up the game as yet another splintered-reality from the TV/movies.
    Traditionalists might be bothered by it, but I see discrepancies like this (from an RP POV anyway) as giving you some freedom to go with how you want it to go.


    Parallel universe ex machine ftw? :D
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Every cruiser is a ship, but not every ship is a cruiser - it makes sense to use the more general term. (If I'm remembering rightly - which is by no means a given - the ships mentioned in the OP actually were cruisers. But lots of Klingon ships aren't.)
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