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Why are people complaining so much?

lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
It's strange, every second post I come across, it's someone complaining about this game.

What gives?

I'm quite thankful for this game given the utter lack anything else on TV that's sci fi related let alone star trek. I've quite enjoyed the whole story line and the continued story building up to the final show down between the Iconians and the rest of the galaxy.

I would've been quite disappointed had they actualy finish the story and published it in one go. This give me something to look forward to.

People also seem to complain about the company being money grabbing TRIBBLE. The fact is, they do have overhead cost to cover. The cost of having so many servers, the cost of electricity, cost of staff for maintenance, cost of development. There's a cost for everything and the game and yet it's free to play. If everything was dirt cheap or free, any player would have no trouble getting the best gear and ship there is. There would be little to no challenge. If there's no challenge, then what's the point of staying to be play the game? Having a currency and making it difficult to get just makes it more rewarding when you finally manage to get that ship you always wanted. If you don't want to wait, then pay them some money for the stuff you want, simple as that.
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  • solomacesolomace Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lingeringsoul888 wrote: »
    It's strange, every second post I come across, it's someone complaining about this game.

    What gives?

    I'm quite thankful for this game given the utter lack anything else on TV that's sci fi related let alone star trek. I've quite enjoyed the whole story line and the continued story building up to the final show down between the Iconians and the rest of the galaxy.

    I would've been quite disappointed had they actualy finish the story and published it in one go. This give me something to look forward to.

    People also seem to complain about the company being money grabbing TRIBBLE. The fact is, they do have overhead cost to cover. The cost of having so many servers, the cost of electricity, cost of staff for maintenance, cost of development. There's a cost for everything and the game and yet it's free to play. If everything was dirt cheap or free, any player would have no trouble getting the best gear and ship there is. There would be little to no challenge. If there's no challenge, then what's the point of staying to be play the game? Having a currency and making it difficult to get just makes it more rewarding when you finally manage to get that ship you always wanted. If you don't want to wait, then pay them some money for the stuff you want, simple as that.

    Ohh the irony...

    Do you work for them btw? Your post reads like an add. That you Gecko?
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This is a complaint thread.

    Nice going, OP.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ...because we can.

    ;)
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    daveyny wrote: »
    ...because we can.

    ;)

    The best answer to this kind of question. :)
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  • ricardo58ricardo58 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I kinda understand his point/view. You find a game you like and become very interested in it, and then you check the forums and see all the whine and fear mongering, "end of the world" threads, and become worried if the game you came to love is gonna last long and if it's worth it to keep staying.

    This is one reason why I try to avoid gaming forums. I don't like being a game frog, but these days it seems you don't have a choice...
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I don't worry about anything I read in the Forums, unless it's coming from an Official Source.

    And even then I wait to see if They decide to change it.

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lingeringsoul888 wrote: »
    It's strange, every second post I come across, it's someone complaining about this game.

    What gives?

    I'm quite thankful for this game given the utter lack anything else on TV that's sci fi related let alone star trek. I've quite enjoyed the whole story line and the continued story building up to the final show down between the Iconians and the rest of the galaxy.

    I would've been quite disappointed had they actualy finish the story and published it in one go. This give me something to look forward to.

    People also seem to complain about the company being money grabbing TRIBBLE. The fact is, they do have overhead cost to cover. The cost of having so many servers, the cost of electricity, cost of staff for maintenance, cost of development. There's a cost for everything and the game and yet it's free to play. If everything was dirt cheap or free, any player would have no trouble getting the best gear and ship there is. There would be little to no challenge. If there's no challenge, then what's the point of staying to be play the game? Having a currency and making it difficult to get just makes it more rewarding when you finally manage to get that ship you always wanted. If you don't want to wait, then pay them some money for the stuff you want, simple as that.

    here i will get you a mirror, there is already enough chaos as it is, perhaps you got a neural clone in your head as well? :P

    people do what they do, including being what they want to be, whales and sheep alike.

    as for cryptic they have to make money by scraping the barrel by any means they can within certain regulations. if they have problems or not is besides the point, their taskmasters in PWE have to be shown that cryptic are cracking the whip to make the numbers and the money.

    when your done with your insane moment, put the mirror away.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited March 2015
    whats the OP complaing about ?
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Complaining is a skill like any other, and if you want to maintain a level of excellence you have to practice constantly. :D
  • solomacesolomace Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ricardo58 wrote: »
    I kinda understand his point/view. You find a game you like and become very interested in it, and then you check the forums and see all the whine and fear mongering, "end of the world" threads, and become worried if the game you came to love is gonna last long and if it's worth it to keep staying.

    This is one reason why I try to avoid gaming forums. I don't like being a game frog, but these days it seems you don't have a choice...

    Then avoid these forums then? Problem solved?

    Okay even easier, avoid reading threads you don't like?

    As long as people on both sides of the fence don't break the T&Cs then I see no problem.

    As to people reading the forums and getting worried, they only need to play the game and read the in game chat to realize they should be...
    Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    it's quite simple logic that in order to make a game and keep it running 24/7, you're going to need money. A company also has shareholders and financiers that will demand a return on the money they invest and yet, they are letting you play for free.
  • chandlerasharichandlerashari Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I was like you once, when everythings new its awesome but usually the forum people are people who have done what can be done in the game (as far as a casual playthrough from 1-60 and having a decent ship build ready)

    For us new content is perpetually behind a grind or paywall.

    We love the game so much we want it to be something its not.

    Or i havent found anything else i they wanna play as much as sto (for me anyway)

    I like the game for what it is, but dont be surprised when others whove been around in the game more...feel differently.
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  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    js26568 wrote: »
    This is a complaint thread.

    Nice going, OP.

    Yes the irony isn't lost on me.
  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    chandlerashari wrote: »
    I was like you once, when everythings new its awesome but usually the forum people are people who have done what can be done in the game (as far as a casual playthrough from 1-60 and having a decent ship build ready)

    For us new content is perpetually behind a grind or paywall.

    We love the game so much we want it to be something its not.

    Or i havent found anything else i they wanna play as much as sto (for me anyway)

    I like the game for what it is, but dont be surprised when others whove been around in the game more...feel differently.


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  • solomacesolomace Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lingeringsoul888 wrote: »
    it's quite simple logic that in order to make a game and keep it running 24/7, you're going to need money. A company also has shareholders and financiers that will demand a return on the money they invest and yet, they are letting you play for free.

    Do you honestly think that the complainers and whiners as you call them, don't know that?

    What a weak comeback response.

    So every whiner and complainer has nothing to whine about then and has no valid points?

    Playing for free = shut up?

    /Sigh.

    Don't worry, your secret handshake instructions will be sent to you shortly by the CDF.;)
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  • noshufflenoshuffle Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lingeringsoul888 wrote: »
    It's strange, every second post I come across, it's someone complaining about this game.

    What gives?

    I'm quite thankful for this game given the utter lack anything else on TV that's sci fi related let alone star trek. I've quite enjoyed the whole story line and the continued story building up to the final show down between the Iconians and the rest of the galaxy.

    I would've been quite disappointed had they actualy finish the story and published it in one go. This give me something to look forward to.

    People also seem to complain about the company being money grabbing TRIBBLE. The fact is, they do have overhead cost to cover. The cost of having so many servers, the cost of electricity, cost of staff for maintenance, cost of development. There's a cost for everything and the game and yet it's free to play. If everything was dirt cheap or free, any player would have no trouble getting the best gear and ship there is. There would be little to no challenge. If there's no challenge, then what's the point of staying to be play the game? Having a currency and making it difficult to get just makes it more rewarding when you finally manage to get that ship you always wanted. If you don't want to wait, then pay them some money for the stuff you want, simple as that.

    Because this game hasn't anything to do with Star Trek at all anymore, but has became a glorified 3rd grade farmville with a Star Trek jacket on it.
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  • chandlerasharichandlerashari Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    guilli88 wrote: »
    This!

    It's like moving to a new country. At first it's all sunshine and lollypops and hot bikini girls all day long. But after a while you'll look down and see all the dog ****. You'll look back up and see how your new residence is full of horrible people and on the tv you'll realise how corrupt your new government is.

    Haha yea! Its not the best country...but its my country!

    Personally ive tried playing other mmos...

    GW2: not into the lore and stuff
    FF XIV: beautiful but doesnt allow me to be in a spaceship (lol duh!)
    Eve Online: too cutthroat (im a rp carebear)
    Elite Dangerous: wheres the enterprise :3
    etcetcetc

    All the reasons above are effin ridiculous reasons to not play an mmo but ive pretty much narrowed down what i want from a timewaster when not having any rl stuff to do to 3 words:

    Star Trek Online.

    (Oh yea and any bioware SINGLE player experience lol)
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Cryptic has so many horrific precedents of power creep and inefficient communication with the players that I'm surprised forums are not going worse.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It's a matter of investment. Generally speaking the loudest critics are the ones that have invested silly amounts of time and/or money.

    Sometimes it's nothing but pure self entitlement, as in "I've spent lots of money so you should do what I say" kind of thing. Such threads are rare, and tend to get shot down as soon as they rear their heads.

    Most of the time it's just someone who doesn't like a feature, or a promotion, or a change that undoes all their previous work and/or spent currency. I personally don't think it is justified most of the time since most of them will carry on spending their time or money using these changes anyway. And why? Because they have invested too much to leave.

    Makes no sense to me, but it's the only reason I've managed to come across any time I remind anyone that it's all optional - if you don't like it you don't have to use it etc.
  • solomacesolomace Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    coupaholic wrote: »
    It's a matter of investment. Generally speaking the loudest critics are the ones that have invested silly amounts of time and/or money.

    Sometimes it's nothing but pure self entitlement, as in "I've spent lots of money so you should do what I say" kind of thing. Such threads are rare, and tend to get shot down as soon as they rear their heads.

    Most of the time it's just someone who doesn't like a feature, or a promotion, or a change that undoes all their previous work and/or spent currency. I personally don't think it is justified most of the time since most of them will carry on spending their time or money using these changes anyway. And why? Because they have invested too much to leave.

    Makes no sense to me, but it's the only reason I've managed to come across any time I remind anyone that it's all optional - if you don't like it you don't have to use it etc.

    Wow, that £10 Psychology lesson you took really paid off eh?

    You seem to have most of the whiners and complainers pegged.

    Please enlighten us more.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    People complain because they are or loyal customers of Star Trek Online and care enough about its well being to point out towards the publisher and developer that their product may have taken a turn for the worse.

    If things turn too bad they leave and stop to care. All those other customers who haven’t complaint in the first place even though they are unhappy do so because of lack of interest and are most likely gone long before that.

    If there are still enough happy customers around after that then alls working as intended, if not game over.
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  • solomacesolomace Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    patrickngo wrote: »

    In the beginning, STO had two factions. They spent the next four years trying to dismantle one, to feed the other-and it was the KDF they were trying to dismantle, and the Feds they were feeding.

    I understand what you have put but this part I disagree with.

    They started with one faction and one half assed something else.

    I could still lay an argument that they still have only 1 faction and that is FED.

    The game was marketed as 2 complete factions and then a few weeks/days before release, changed it to one faction and the other half assed thing.
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  • roadghostroadghost Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Because a forum without drama is a forum no one goes to.

    You want to see complaints... go look at the forums for that huge MMO. This place is a Cryptic pep rally in comparison.
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  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    hmmm that's certainly a very interesting history of STO. I started playing when it was first released back in 2010 for a couple of month. Back then the crystalline entity was near impossible to beat, I think that kind of put me off sto. I certainly missed out on all the drama.
  • swatopswatop Member Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ...because players have many good reasons to complain since this game is going totally into the wrong direction

    ...because it is full of bugs which probably never will get fixed

    ... because everything went from "fun" to "grind/work"
  • tinead51tinead51 Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The OP is sooooooo late to the party, nevermind, keep attempting to play, you'll soon catch up to the rest of us... :P
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I've been playing since march last year so yes I did miss out on some of the party. I still enjoyed everything, yes there were bugs but honestly to me I could put up with it, didn't bother me that much. I'm just thankful I can indulge my fantasy of flying a spaceship. The grind gets to me sometimes, especially when you really what that ship and it takes so long to get it, but hey, it's something to look forward to.
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