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star trek and star wars are the same!
deaftravis05
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That's what my wife said.
I must show her the difference... and she has never seen star wars... so, how do I show her the difference?
I must show her the difference... and she has never seen star wars... so, how do I show her the difference?
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I've been told to TRIBBLE the prequel if she's not gonna be hardcore or anything like that.
Although Yoda being a whirrling Dervish makes up for Anakin whining.
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Star Trek: The Original Series started as a space western, but without John Wayne. It is just as simple as that. But by The Next Generation, it had morphed into more an intellectual exploration.
Deep Space Nine: The entire series is nothing more than one long bar fight.
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and it started with Sisko decking Q.
Perhaps the greatest punch ever in Trek.
If you show her Star Wars, definitely start with the original trilogy. We had this discussion on the forums some time back and it was noted that the shocking announcements of Luke's kin in Empire and Return have zero impact if someone has viewed the prequels. (on the other hand, Kenobi & Yoda's deaths will have greater weight and the emperor will seem even more, um, insidious, if the viewer has connected with them since Phantom.)
Star Wars was an homage to the serialized sci-fi of the 1930s, 40s, and even 50s, and some of its costuming and set designs reflect this, as does the famous scrolling titles and scene changing styles.
Star Trek, on the other hand, while having western elements, was less of an homage or stereotype and in many ways was blazing new territory in sci-fi that a lot of others ended up copying. It also served, at times, as a socio-political soapbox, hoping to teach, something Star Wars has never done (except maybe an episode or two in The Clone Wars animation, I don't recall for sure).
*subtle facepalm*
Yes, they both take place is space.
Choose three of the more popular star trek episodes. My suggestions:
1.) from TOS 0308 - For the World is Hollow, and I have touched the Sky. <-- Classic Trek
2.) from TNG - Inner Light <--- moving, connected, well acted.
3.) from DS9 - In the Pale Moonlight <--- shows the range of what the series could do.
Then show her The Phantom Menace.
End of story.
And she does so on a daily basis.
I think the standard answer I give my wife of twenty eight years whenever this topic arises is:
"Ya know, Honey, you're exactly right. Would you like some more wine?"
So far it has not failed me. Ever. With enough wine, she gets sleepy. When she gets sleepy, she goes to bed.
When she goes to bed, she leaves me alone. I buy Zen. Everybody Happy! No problems!
*Never show anyone the prequels*
For Trek, I'd skip over TOS (save it for later if interest is shown).
Start her out with some TNG;
"Inner Light" (as mentioned before, some great writing is on display in this one). This episode also has an excellent score and soundtrack, and shows how Star Trek can differ greatly from Star Wars.
Then go with "Yesterdays Enterprise" to pick up the pace a bit...
Finish with "Darkmok".
I found the answer is divorce.
LOL.
Do you also kill ant colonies with nuclear weapons:P?
Yoda's fighting is what makes it enjoyable.
both outer space stuff, both playing on the human conditon, both have wars and politics, both have ideals, both have central characters to drive the show along.
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The other is the same thing, but with lightsabers in it.
Both movies with a lot of car racing, both have lead characters who are basically cartoons...
And the movies exist as they are, independent of the often self-contradictory and occasionally very badly-written EU. Nuking it was the only possible way for the movies to move forward; otherwise, any movies made would have had to follow the novels as written, and who's going to pay ten bucks or more to see a movie whose every plot twist and line of dialog they already know?
Not exactly one in Sci-Fi, and second is a fairy tale with glowing swords and Force-magic.
That's a good order actually
I only liked the X-wing series, good series, the others kinda throw it out of whack.
pretty much. One is fantasy the other is just sci fi.
Not exactly. One is an exploration based sci-fi franchise based in a time where socialism has become accepted and humanity has united against a common enemy. Then turned the enemy into friends and decided to understand the universe with each other, with a few hostilities along the way. And some fun Q Continuum stuff!:D
The second is a classic fantasy epic thrown into a sci-fi setting with great care and sculpting, were humans are a wide spread, separated race that lives together with other, more exotic aliens. In this universe is a radiation like energy that many people have the ability to control. They serve either as evil overlords or beneficial peacekeepers. And some really cool, non-powered people have fun and beat up the powered ones as well.
"You shall not pass!" is pretty much the same as "Polarized Gravimetric Distortion Field."
Just because one sounds more logical and more smarter, and sounds more scientific, does not mean it actually is.
why would i need to explain when iconians is doing it for me. :P a title is just a title. cars are the same under the hood except the logo, yet what difference does it make between the logo?
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Let's not forget the running joke of killing Vorta in a variety of ways.
Every time one died, I heard this sound.
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
I'd suggest a divorce.
They are not even the same genre...
Although I seem to be the only one in my familie getting the difference.