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Making Of Command Ships
pwlaughingtrendy
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Captains! Want to learn about how our new Command Ships were built up? Our latest dev blog by Phil "Gongonzolla" Zeleski shows what went into building these tough ships!
You can check out our blog here.
~LaughingTrendy
You can check out our blog here.
~LaughingTrendy
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I FULLY FULLY FULLY SUPPORT THIS COMMENT.
Might we get another blog about taking the Enterprise-F contest art toward adapting them for the game?
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My only issue of them besides the fact that one looks like the vo'quv variant I have never used/didn't like and the other looks like a bortasqu' which just was a nice gesture from Cryptic when they had the ody coming out but relatively became a disaster. The other issue besides the look of them is that new game mechanic it just feels like the way it is explained that its another +1% gimmick soon to be followed by a 5% nerf.
Not to offend anyone but yeah its way over priced and the mechanic will most likely be a gimmick to start with and then after sales go down on it will be an outdated nerfed gimmick.
Plus just me personally I have enough battle cruisers what the KDF really lacks and one of the things its well known for is the bops which compared to battle cruisers we don't have much of any of them. Especially being there is only one c-store bop you can buy lol.
I really like the 'mobile fortress' feel that these ships have to them. I'm enjoying them quite a bit.
I commend you about the design direction, these command ships really do look like something that would come out of their respective factions and I'm glad you went with distinctive yet standard look for these ships unlike the intel ones, which IMHO just look bad and completely out of place for the playable factions in a Star Trek game.
I espeically approve of the design directions for the Federation bundle, with retro-looking engineering hulls, neck sections and circular saucers. However with the ellegant predatory bird style of the Romulan ones, I think you've hit home-run. Hands down the best looking ships in STO. I have to give compliments about the Baratan design, that ship is gorgeous as well as the Ty'Gokor that looks kinda' weird, but I've really come to like.
As for the command ships themselves in terms of stats, layout, performance and the inspiration mechanics - they're great for me, they suit my playstyle perfectly and I'm glad to finally see this type of ship in the game.
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These are great ships. I and several fleetmates bought one or more of these ships right out of the gate - very impressive to see them in action!
I like the explanation of the under-the-hood design as well. I found it a little strange at first that the 'science' variants didn't have any auxiliary power bonus, but I can see that these ships were specifically designed to only have minor technical variation. Makes sense. And they all seem to fly great as battlecruisers anyways.
Other than that... wow, just incredible design!
The Romulan navalarchitect used Rhino and other fancypants stuffs.
The Klingons used Sketchup, for it was the easiest one to use.
The federation doesnt have any money to aquire a license...
but they dont want to use illegal copy like the romulans
So they used Blender.
No, they can't. Because the Federation is not suposed to use cloak and because it's pretty pointless on this type of ship.
Plus being a battlecruiser has nothing to do with having a cloak.
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No, no, no.......you're missing the obvious - the Romulan flagship needs to be retconned into a Baratan Class. I mean, just look at that particular ship from the three - when observed from above it looks exactly like the Romulan Republic logo. It's the visual embodiment of the Romulan Republic.
The reasoning for the hangar bay actually makes sense and i do like it as to where before i just thought "tacked on hangar... jadda jadda jadda".
There is one thing another forum member mentioned that does strike me as odd. They are called battlecruisers but don't have the same cruiser commands as other battle cruisers. Semantics but they are important to some players and help with continuity.
edit: I do actually like the change of pace STO has taken lately. I can only assume that it is more work to push all the stuff from concept to finish but it's awesome to see ships that really look like Star Trek. Thanks for that.
Personally I like the flagship being a Reman ship commanded by a Romulan. What could be more symbolic of the Republic's spirit of cooperation between the two races?
I have no problem with a Reman ship commanded by a Romulan, or a Romulan ship commanded by a Reman as the Republic's flagship.
What I have problem with it that ship being the garbage scow that is the Scimitar.
These are the kinds of blogs that offer some more transparency with their decision-making, and allows them to properly showcase what they have come up with from a design perspective, rather than a marketing perspective.
Although I have no desire to purchase any of these Command ships, I look forward to additional blogs that cover these topics and topics like them.
I would like to point out I would like an option to use my Odyssey, Bortasqu', or Scimitar as a Command ship, even in a watered-down capacity. It makes sense from a lore perspective, and hope that Cryptic's team are in the process of allowing us to retrofit ships we've already invested a great time of love, EC, Zen, and Dilithium into, in order to allow us to take advantage of these great Intelligence and Command specializations.
I do not mind throwing a few bucks at Cryptic, I would just like to be met halfway, and to be recognized that I and others like me already have our favorite ships, and that the T5-U mechanics do not currently go far enough.
It is a shame to see the potential of these Intel and Command specializations paywalled in such a fashion.
Yeah, I was tempted to throw a #SlapAHangarBayOnIt at them myself when I first saw it, but their reasoning makes sense here.
That's really my only minor complaint. Personally I think they should have the full compliment of cruiser commands. Seems a bit off to me that my so-called "Command Battlecruiser" doesn't have all the, well, cruiser commands. Especially since the Fed versions have a visible array of antenna on the top which is perfect for relaying commands to the rest of the fleet. Yet my antenna array only has half the commands lol.
Ehhh, oh well. Like I said, only a minor complaint. I love everything else about these ships though.
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On the other hand, what does the symbolism of the Republic's flagship being a flying WMD with nacelles slapped on it say...?
I agree with your sentiment but I think the positive message of unity implied by the make of the ship is outweight by the message of war and death implied by that ship class' history.
Besides, the Baratan certainly looks like it has Scimitar influence - which means Reman influence. One, or perhaps up to all, of these ships could easily be joint designs from Romulans and Remans. Though ultimately still Romulan ships, there's clearly cooperation. Considering this, is the symbolism ultimately any different? Same message you're going for without the bad juju the Scimitar has.
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Anyway, the way I always look at STO canon is: the event depicted in the missions happened. The rest of the player-side stuff mostly doesn't, so I don't have to reconcile the federation captain who flies a vaadwaur ship with a crew full of jem hadar, talaxians and borg. I don't think we see the Llieset use a thalaron device. It may not be equipped with one.
That said, I really, really like the Romulan command ships, they're brilliant. And if Cryptic wanted to announce the retiring of the Llieset with one of these new ones becoming the flagship, it wouldn't bother me one bit.
Wonderful! Can't wait to see it. Promise it'll have lots of neat concept art?
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It's not about whether it's equipped with one or not, though. You said yourself, it's the symbolism. That's what's important.
Loathe though I am to invoke Godwin's law, it's like a high-profile German diplomat deciding to use one of Hitler's cars as his ride in an official motorcade. It's just a car, there's not even a TRIBBLE in it, but it's still a pretty bad idea to drive it around, especially to public events or on sensitive political outings...
It's really hard not to invoke Godwin's Law when the subject is about actual (albeit fictional) bad things, but at least I'm not blowing a dev post out of proportion with TRIBBLE comparisons. :rolleyes:
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The analogy would be more like a German official riding around in the same model car as one Hitler used. I'm sure some would fault them for that, but I wouldn't. The entire production line is not responsible for what one person got up to in one car. And speaking in-universe, how do we know some Republic citizens don't consider the Llieset to be a controversial choice?
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