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What happened here?
Intentional bait & switch?
Bad communication content?
Not impressed.
What happened here?
Intentional bait & switch?
Bad communication content?
Not impressed.
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--Red Annorax
What happend?
They are greedy 'flucks'.
Bait:
Everywhere else in the game: (including turning in Marks/Neural Processors/Cybernetic Implants, etc.) 50% Bonus Dilithium Ore
Switch:
Everywhere else in the game. 50% Bonus Dilithium Ore
Perhaps we can argue about the relative nature of fictional currencies. This was a mistake pure and simple, but another example of the zero lack of managerial oversight on something we love to play. This was something many of us looked forward to and for the last 2 years used.
Apology Trendy, or apology from the 'less than professional' person who wrote and approved this post?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9065993-dilithium-weekend-event
Well, once you get past that kick in the nuts, there's the fact that "including turning in Marks/Neural Processors/Cybernetic Implants, etc" was deleted.
To clarify.
The part that is a bait and switch is as follows:
"Everywhere else in game: (including turning in Marks/Neural Processors/Cybernetic Implants, etc.)
-50% Bonus Dilithium Ore"
This has now been removed from the Dev blog, this is not happening, and is confirmed working as intended. The removal of the rep completion bonus was generally well understood by the community here yesterday.
It may have not been intentional, it may have been a mistake, but it was most certainly a bait and switch.
Thanks for representing us 'all'
Very nice of you, ta.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
One of the greats of the golden age of science fiction, (Arthur C Clarke, maybe?), once said something like, "never postulate conspiracy to explain that which could be explained equally well by incompetence".
As an axiom, it has some stark limitations, but in this particular situation...
It's unfortunate that we have now become so embittered by the legions of wrongs done to us that we are no longer capable of being fully objective about such things.
Thing is, the very next line states that Rep Projects do not reward a bonus. The thing to do would have been to have questioned the blog as soon as it went up with the contradictory information it held.
E-Marks are 150%
E-Marks are 100%
Some folks chose to ignore the second part and go with the first. Some folks expect the worst of Cryptic and ignored the first part figuring it was the second.
Cryptic's fault for providing contradictory information, but that's not bait and switch. Two things that could have been true, not at the same time, and one of them is true.
They definitely should have seen the issue in the blog before posting it, players should have raised their concerns the moment it was posted...
...hard not to feel like this isn't one of those hope things. Hoping that if they didn't raise the concerns, that maybe the E-Marks would...concerned that if they did, Cryptic might fix it and they wouldn't be.
Pessimism is so much easier when dealing with Cryptic...figuring that E-Marks wouldn't, but if they had it would have been a pleasant surprise.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I think one thing they are always thinking in the back of their mind is that this is a FTP game so they are not really taking anything from us.
The logic is faulty, but sometimes when you prove someone's thinking is wrong it only reinforces that flawed belief.
Why the heck do they hate you?
Going to call expecting what were promised "entitlement?" Idiots!
LOL. Sliding 6 at a time we're looking at 4000+ in about 30 seconds. Say 8000 a minute. 480,000 an hour. We'll round it down to 400,000 an hour.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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OH.
Go to the Reputation tab. Go down to Upgrades Available. It takes you to the same Selective Active Project section of the Contribute tab, even though the available projects will vary from the standard projects. Once you've selected an upgrade, it changes the window to state Select Next Project. If you want to cancel that upgrade (I'm looking at the one for Isos), the button to cancel it states Cancel Project. If you click it, it comes up with the warning window...Cancel Active Project, if this project is cancelled, yadda yadda yadda.
So how are they not projects when everything says they are projects?
And the blog stated that Rep projects get no bonus...vs...the line before saying the E-Marks would.
That's contradiction, that's on Cryptic - creating that confusing scenario; but it's not bait and switch by any means.
edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about it...it's just I was pissed about it yesterday when the blog went up and not pissed about it today by surprise having expected something else. I went my typical pessimist route with Cryptic and figured they were going to TRIBBLE us.
Last dilithium weekend netted me 2.8mil in dil. So someone else please tell me where I can make this much dil in a few days without dumping hundreds of dollars into this game and I'll take it.
a good part of my Dil income is these events while turning in my excess marks and rep things . while people claim better ways to earn dil ,for me this is better than the other . rather than Exploiting DINOS sorry guys its broken and you know it .
events like this should throw a bone at the community for playing the other content outside the norm.
here is the thing , metrics prob show a good majority stopped buying zen . use mostly dil to zen so nerf the most dil for the buck . if you think about it i can run and make my refine limit in a shorter period during this event then running dinos or contra , you have how many reps ? if you have months of excess marks thats alot of dil . to run at once every 8 secs or so . yes its alot of clicking thru the interface not alot of running around , just like crafting and playing the exchange .
im not happy at all
Regardless if it's a bad mistake, aren't posts of any kind with obvious negative impacts on the 2.5 million account holders reviewed at length and approved before posting?
Apparently not. Yay team Cryptic!
BAHAHAHAHA I laughed out loud at this one, I am all for some good forum rage but this one is up there in terms of frustration. That the state of the game drives people to pop off like this should be a good indication that something's wrong.
But as long as you all keep opening lockboxes for your new precious and have ship win announcements zooming across the screen every few minutes, I guess nothing will change :rolleyes:
Fair enough - I don't represent the community.
I was referring to this thread - which went on for some time, and discussed the nerf that was incoming. (To also clarify, I was concerned that they were about to pull mark bonuses as well)
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1367701
Apologies if that caused confusion.
Even if it was a bug, the fact the official announcement didn't include this restriction an now it's been added AFTER the event Go Live is a terrible business decision. You should be honoring your "misprint".
This is only hurting your reputation and giving ammunition to the people who accuse you of lying/cheating/etc. In this case, they are right and you can't possibly spin it any other way.
Big loss of faith in Cryptic here.
DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???