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willamsheridan
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So since DR the optionals are not optional anymore and if you fail them, you fail the whole mission. THats not logical but also not the point
The problem is that there are some issues with Advanced STFs:
In Khitomer ins stasis we failed the Optional and recieved the versy small pack of marks. But the mission didn´t end. We still had the other timer saying that we had several minutes to finish the mission. So we finished it, destroyed the IMRs, killed Tosk but got no additional rewards and got the message that we would get a 1 hour penalty if we left even there was nothing more to do.
In Infected: Manus (ground) i once joined a mission that already had failed but according to the Timer we still had 14 minutes to finish the Mission. But after about 6 Minutes the mission ended and we got the countdown to leave the Map
Another time in Manus we also failed but could still play for several minutes until the countdown appeared.
So there is something wrong with the Advanced missions or the optionals.
The problem is that there are some issues with Advanced STFs:
In Khitomer ins stasis we failed the Optional and recieved the versy small pack of marks. But the mission didn´t end. We still had the other timer saying that we had several minutes to finish the mission. So we finished it, destroyed the IMRs, killed Tosk but got no additional rewards and got the message that we would get a 1 hour penalty if we left even there was nothing more to do.
In Infected: Manus (ground) i once joined a mission that already had failed but according to the Timer we still had 14 minutes to finish the Mission. But after about 6 Minutes the mission ended and we got the countdown to leave the Map
Another time in Manus we also failed but could still play for several minutes until the countdown appeared.
So there is something wrong with the Advanced missions or the optionals.
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Oh and it would be great to see some trigger lines in the "Manus" mission so there is at least a chance to win the mission and stop all those (can´t post that word here) to run into the next room, get killed and allow the Crewmember to be assimilated
still nothing changed. Got a 1hr penalty again today. Don´t know why and how to prevent it if the mission fails.
Anyway, because you are getting the correct cooldown set in either case I'm not sure there is a real functional difference between getting the leaver penalty and having the map end normally (where you get 300 seconds before it boots you) on a failure condition, even if the map-not-ending is technically a bug.
Also: The Optionals are still optionals in advanced STF's. Anything in your mission window that has "Optional - " in front of it is optional to the completion of the mission.
However, anything without that in front of it is mandatory.
Eg, KSA: The optional is now completing it within 15 minutes, I believe. This states "Optional - Complete within 15 minutes", or something very similar.
However, it now also states "Let no Borg ship use the Vortex" (or, again, something similair), without the optional in front of it. This is a mandatory completion condition. If a ship gets through, the mission fails, you warp out, you get an hour cooldown like if you'd completed the mission.
Think you need to have a certain number of posts to make new threads.
I am not sure why but usually, for missions like the undine Infiltration i have 30min cooldown not 1hr.any my Timer for theb Borg missions showed 30 min too.
And btw the Optional in KSA (Khitomer STasis advanced ground) is broken too.
Why?
BEcause you have 15 min to destroy the TRansformers (ISM
Thus making you hit the "instafail" timer wall thus meaning you fail the whole pve and then to add insult to injury you get use cool down timer. . .
This is the problem
No its not. THe "optional" as you call it isnt even called an optional in Khitomer in Stasis anymore.
THe mission requires you to destroy the TRansformers within 15 Minutes. If you fail, you lost, missions over.
You have far more time for the Optional but that doesnt matter because you either have enouth tme to win or you fail after 15 min.
And you don´t get a cooldown, you get a leaver penalty for one Hour. Thats why i am not even playing Khitomer Advanced anymore, i play Undine infiltration Elite and trade the Salvaged Tech for plekton
Same in Infected: Manus". One crewmen gets assimilated ad you loose.
So you lost, end, finished, nothing more to gain.
But you can still run around on the Map and kill all other Borgs, Kill Manus but you don´t get any more rewards and if you beam up you get the message that leaving this mission will result in a 1 hour leaver-penalty.
Advanced is a mess.
They should be restored them to pre-DR to please the crowd, and roll out Elite queues for the Elite minority.
They weren't perfect before, but the current conditions certainly aren't pleasing the masses. Better to go back to where you had some success and come up with a new plan, than to leave them in their current pitiful state.
It's completely baffling to me why Elite players are concerned about the advanced queues and why they aren't pressuring Cryptic to create the true elite queues.
It's also a mystery why Cryptic is so reluctant to take steps to keep the players happy.