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shazia9191
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Look, I know that there is always going to be a higher number of unsavory players in a F2P game. I realize that, and I'm more or less at peace with it, but this is completely ridiculous.
I STOPPED RPing/social gaming in STO a LONG time ago because I was harassed so often by trolls -- and I don't even need to name and shame here, we all know exactly who these idiots are -- and I decided to focus on the game itself instead. Fast forward to DR and the aftermath. I don't care for the increased grind, I stopped spending money on the game in protest of the changes, but I still feel invested in STO, so what do I do? I decide to try my hand in some roleplay, some social gaming, after a long hiatus.
Nothing's changed. Yes, I could (and do) have private events on my starbase/bridge, but is that the norm now? Should we have to vacate the public social zones now because a few players are allowed to run rampant with no repercussions? Cryptic/PWE, you have made this game -- aside from the mission content -- all but unplayable and unejoyable to me (this isn't a point of debate, by the way, as I note that "unplayable" and "unenjoyable" are 100% subjective to my point of view, not objective, so I do not need, nor will I, comment on that further), but you seem to be hell bent on making EVERY SINGLE aspect of this game miserable for the players, except, of course, the few that get some kind of sick enjoyment in others' misery.
Can we actually get a GM, or, I don't know, support ticket staff that actually READS and RESPONDS relevantly to tickets filed? The automatic support e-mail doesn't inspire confidence in the system as it is.
I STOPPED RPing/social gaming in STO a LONG time ago because I was harassed so often by trolls -- and I don't even need to name and shame here, we all know exactly who these idiots are -- and I decided to focus on the game itself instead. Fast forward to DR and the aftermath. I don't care for the increased grind, I stopped spending money on the game in protest of the changes, but I still feel invested in STO, so what do I do? I decide to try my hand in some roleplay, some social gaming, after a long hiatus.
Nothing's changed. Yes, I could (and do) have private events on my starbase/bridge, but is that the norm now? Should we have to vacate the public social zones now because a few players are allowed to run rampant with no repercussions? Cryptic/PWE, you have made this game -- aside from the mission content -- all but unplayable and unejoyable to me (this isn't a point of debate, by the way, as I note that "unplayable" and "unenjoyable" are 100% subjective to my point of view, not objective, so I do not need, nor will I, comment on that further), but you seem to be hell bent on making EVERY SINGLE aspect of this game miserable for the players, except, of course, the few that get some kind of sick enjoyment in others' misery.
Can we actually get a GM, or, I don't know, support ticket staff that actually READS and RESPONDS relevantly to tickets filed? The automatic support e-mail doesn't inspire confidence in the system as it is.
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As for RPing, you carry on your conversation via PM in the chat window, instead of using Local, Zone, and other public channels. Don't give potential trolls and ret@rds any breadcrumbs to follow.
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But, isn't it relatively easy to make a private chat channel where you can RP at will?
Also, logic is only the beginning.
If the answer is no to either I'd kindly suggest you find out before making any assumptions. Let me be very clear - it doesn't matter what fleet you belong to, what group you belong to the forum rules are there for a reason and they will be enforced when we see violations.
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To be fair, you spend hours and hours talking about nothing in ESD zone chat daily, I think you are most likely a bit more desensitized than the OP.
I thought it was so cool that you took that noble route early on there stating that you understood that things were subjective...but before you've even finished that sentence (one Hell of a long sentence) you're already speaking for other players. I just don't get this.
Yes, it is far easier for us that do not want the distraction of what is often the most horrible RP ever done in a game...just to ignore those folks. Those folks on the other hand, well, yeah - they're subject to all sorts of shenanigans from other players.
The thing is, just because a player believes something meets a certain threshold does not mean that it meets the requirement from Cryptic/PWE to be classified as such. Also, you're never going to hear back on any of those reports. But just because somebody does not like something that somebody is doing, doesn't necessarily make it any form of harassment or the like. By going into a public area, one accepts a certain level of the public being there. No one player has a right to be in an area more than another player does.
So if one does not wish to be subject to the whims of the public, well - one shouldn't be in a public place, eh?
So all of that has to be taken into account in any expectations of action being taken...yeah?
If the RPers get forced into the shadows, I'd personally say it takes a lot away from the game's atmosphere. The trolls should indeed be hit with the ignore list, they add absolutely nothing worth a damn anyway to the game. But no RPer should be forced to a private channel/map because they're being harassed into it.
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Get out your pom-poms and start a little cheer, Askray.
I can see why you're angry at Askray for doing his job if this is the kind of post you keep making. How dare he try to keep the forums civil.
Ah yes, the :mad:SOCIAL ITEMS ARE TROLL TOOLS:mad: argument, been a while since we had one of those.
You heard it here first folks, if you have a different game experience from shazia9191 then you're a troll. No wonder he thinks the game is infested.
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Same here. High five!
Complaints of "MY IMMERSION" about this game are hilarious considering this is the franchise that gave us things like Q turning a starship into a Christmas tree ornament.
It might. If you have been a very naughty captain.
Jokes aside, even bloody awful ones like that, why not just use fleet maps?
I'd have guessed they were perfect. You have a space station with bar/social area, you have the embassy and the spire and even the mine for changes of scenery. And of course all these places are invite only so you can keep the rabble out.
Since you can pretend it's all real to begin with, you can pretend that starbase is ESD or any other base in the universe.
I was keeping this one for special occasions.
So what do you *want* cryptic to do about it?
Ban people for talking to you in public channels? Not gonna happen.
Ban people for using party poppers? Not gonna happen.
Ban people for jumping around and acting like a moron in your face? Not gonna happen.
Cryptic gave you all kinds of tools to do your RP.
They gave you private chat channels, where you can talk without seeing any other nonsense.
They gave you a foundry, where you can create a scene.
They gave you private areas to hang out in away from the public (fleet base, ship interiors, to name a couple). There are also areas off the beaten path that are pretty cool, not everything has to go down on earth.
You can work around the trolls easily enough. Unless your RP scenarios ALL demand being on ESD or DS9 where thousands of people come to act like 5 year olds, you should be able to enjoy RP just about anywhere else.
There isnt much more to say about it. What you call trolling (talking to you? using stupid in game toys like balloons? emoting at you? ) is largely within the TOS and not something they can punish the other people for. If the people are not doing something outside the TOS behavior policy, cryptic can't really punish them (well, they can, but it would not go over well). If they are doing something outside the TOS, report them... depending on what they said or did, if it was bad enough, they will be banned or temp-banned or at least get a stern talking to. They can't force people to RP with you. They can't even force ppl to respect your personal space in a public area.
That's only a few examples I saw in this game, and I don't think anything happened. Unless perhaps when a dev gets harassed himself.
Yes, you are not supposed to do that. But in fact, you pretty much can, nobody is going to stop you. There are no CS for this game. Even less GM.
It is like having a set of rules and laws in our society, but no police at all. Good luck with that.
My thoughts. Every time I'm on ESD, I can see him talk. I wonder if he ever sleep or do anything else.
Hard to be trolled when all you do is "debate" on ESD chat.