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Why The Snowball Nerf ?

rotorblade573rotorblade573 Member Posts: 88 Arc User
edited January 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I see in today's Release Notes (01-08-15) that of all things Snowballs get nerf'ed.

I don’t post a lot and like many long time players I have been very unhappy with the direction this game has taken over the last year....but seriously what prompted this change –

“Snowballs, Unmelting Snowballs, and Half-melted Snowballs no longer have any chance of knocking down snowmen or players of the opposite faction”.

If there are players out there who have a problem with getting hit with a virtual snowball they should seek counseling.
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rotorblade573 wrote: »
    I see in today's Release Notes (01-08-15) that of all things Snowballs get nerf'ed.

    I don’t post a lot and like many long time players I have been very unhappy with the direction this game has taken over the last year....but seriously what prompted this change –

    “Snowballs, Unmelting Snowballs, and Half-melted Snowballs no longer have any chance of knocking down snowmen or players of the opposite faction”.

    If there are players out there who have a problem with getting hit with a virtual snowball they should seek counseling.

    People whined.

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  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rotorblade573 wrote: »
    I see in today's Release Notes (01-08-15) that of all things Snowballs get nerf'ed.

    I don’t post a lot and like many long time players I have been very unhappy with the direction this game has taken over the last year....but seriously what prompted this change –

    “Snowballs, Unmelting Snowballs, and Half-melted Snowballs no longer have any chance of knocking down snowmen or players of the opposite faction”.

    If there are players out there who have a problem with getting hit with a virtual snowball they should seek counseling.

    The problem is people used it to gain advantage in PVP races and to annoy people doing the PVE race.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rotorblade573 wrote: »
    I see in today's Release Notes (01-08-15) that of all things Snowballs get nerf'ed.

    I don’t post a lot and like many long time players I have been very unhappy with the direction this game has taken over the last year....but seriously what prompted this change –

    “Snowballs, Unmelting Snowballs, and Half-melted Snowballs no longer have any chance of knocking down snowmen or players of the opposite faction”.

    If there are players out there who have a problem with getting hit with a virtual snowball they should seek counseling.


    same as alot of things people whining...

    and they will never get counseling. that would be admitting they are not perfect angelic beings who we should be adored for gracing us with their magnificence. :P

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • obliviondollobliviondoll Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    bioixi wrote: »
    The problem is people used it to gain advantage in PVP races and to annoy people doing the PVE race.
    As much as I'm personally not competitive enough to care about it for myself, this does make sense.
  • dongemaharudongemaharu Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rotorblade573 wrote: »
    I see in today's Release Notes (01-08-15) that of all things Snowballs get nerf'ed.

    I don’t post a lot and like many long time players I have been very unhappy with the direction this game has taken over the last year....but seriously what prompted this change –

    “Snowballs, Unmelting Snowballs, and Half-melted Snowballs no longer have any chance of knocking down snowmen or players of the opposite faction”.

    If there are players out there who have a problem with getting hit with a virtual snowball they should seek counseling.
    You might want to get the number of their psychiatrist yourself, as you're clearly upset you can't manipulate other players characters against their will anymore.

    How will you go on? Walk outside and step on some bugs?
  • nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited January 2015
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  • crazyned1066crazyned1066 Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rotorblade573 wrote: »
    I see in today's Release Notes (01-08-15) that of all things Snowballs get nerf'ed.

    I don’t post a lot and like many long time players I have been very unhappy with the direction this game has taken over the last year....but seriously what prompted this change –

    “Snowballs, Unmelting Snowballs, and Half-melted Snowballs no longer have any chance of knocking down snowmen or players of the opposite faction”.

    If there are players out there who have a problem with getting hit with a virtual snowball they should seek counseling.

    I think they should have left them as they were and moved that small army of snowmen across from race starter's station. It was pretty annoyed to get hammered with dozens of snowballs while waiting to run the race.

    Beyond that, I don't know what all the fuss was about.

    ...well getting attacked from beneath by invisible snowmen kinda sucks, too. That was supposedly fixed weeks ago, but it still happens to me regularly.
  • crowley875crowley875 Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    The Winter event ends in 7 days. Why do they bother fixing it..
  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I thought they had already done this

    I was on DS9 a couple nights ago and I remember there was a guy running around the Promenade throwing snowballs at passerbyers which included myself.

    What I never liked about the snowballs was that, there is no way to dodge or avoid them... they have this way of tracking you like a heat-seeking missle (ironic), and it is annoying after awhile of wanting to do something and being pelted with snowballs that you cannot escape. If people complained about Party Amplifiers, this is just as, if not more annoying only because there is no way to dodge or avoid their effects.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    nicha0 wrote: »
    It is easier to destroy fun then to fix a problem

    If interfering in PvE races is fun for you seek help.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    crowley875 wrote: »
    The Winter event ends in 7 days. Why do they bother fixing it..

    It is with the wellspring of hope that Q will miraculously return this coming December!
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  • crowley875crowley875 Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sheldonlcooper wrote: »
    It is with the wellspring of hope that Q will miraculously return this coming December!

    They got 12 months to fix those. Right now more pressing issues are in despirate need of attention. Defera for example.
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    crowley875 wrote: »
    They got 12 months to fix those. Right now more pressing issues are in despirate need of attention. Defera for example.

    To be a pressing issue people would have to be going there.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    crazyned1066 wrote: »
    I think they should have left them as they were and moved that small army of snowmen across from race starter's station. It was pretty annoyed to get hammered with dozens of snowballs while waiting to run the race.

    Beyond that, I don't know what all the fuss was about.

    ...well getting attacked from beneath by invisible snowmen kinda sucks, too. That was supposedly fixed weeks ago, but it still happens to me regularly.

    The upside of that is if you make it to the start podium and the attacking snowmen get you 'held' then you can signal the race official and not receive an opponent during the race.

    Ya, invisible snowmen are a pain, but they die just as easily as the ones you actually see.
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    js26568 wrote: »
    People whined.

    Funny what player feedback becomes when you don't agree with it.
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  • maddscottmaddscott Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    bioixi wrote: »
    The problem is people used it to gain advantage in PVP races and to annoy people doing the PVE race.

    Oh well.. I miss the opportunity the "harrass" a line cutter in the "Fastest Game on Ice" (PvE) Race. I actually thought this was fixed last year ?? :mad:

    :rolleyes: I felt vindicated, after being DQ'd by a line cutter, when I could smack the cutter during their race with a couple of snowballs as they slid into a turn and maybe fell down, and, in the process, slid out of bounds.. Justice was mine.. :D

    Then again, I really hate those folks that pop a "Party Amplifier" just before the start of the Fast and Flurrious.. Come on Cryptic, where's the nerf/null effct for this one ??

    Anywho, the reason for the nerf.. Whinning by a minority of players who PROBABLY deserve to get knocked down by a virtual snowball in a virtual world.. Wonder what they would do or respond if they got hit by a real snowball in the real world !! :eek:
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    maddscott wrote: »
    Then again, I really hate those folks that pop a "Party Amplifier" just before the start of the Fast and Flurrious.. Come on Cryptic, where's the nerf/null effct for this one ??

    At the nearest GPL store. Nullifier device, makes you completely immune to the party amplifier as long as it's in your inventory.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited January 2015
    js26568 wrote: »
    People whined.

    100 people are going to post after me, using 10000 words to say exactly what I just said in those two words.

    Its better to see a troll whine
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    duncanidaho11 wrote: »
    Funny what player feedback becomes when you don't agree with it.

    I'll remember that next time you dismiss negative feedback as the entitled whining of a minority of malcontents.

    Well, I know you wouldn't put it as eloquently as I did, but you get the gist.
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  • balkumbalkum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    snowballin' where!?!;)
  • maddscottmaddscott Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    westmetals wrote: »
    Re: the party amps. There is an item called a Subspace Party Nullifier (or something very similar to that) which will make your character immune to the dancing effect if carried. You still see the light show and balloons and music (unfortunately). You can purchase it from the GPL console at Drozana Station.

    As for the snowballs, it's a very similar idea - preventing another player from forcing you into a certain action.

    Cryptic needs to do something about the line cutters. But allowing other players to immobilize and/or knock down players with snowballs is not it.

    Party Amps - rgr that.. knew there was something to counter that effect. My point was it's activated to cause an affect on other players and possible advantage, just like snow balls..

    So, in Cryptic's nerf Logic, it fit's the profile. How come there's not a "Snowball Nullifier" for the same function.. Wait.. there's a potential dil sink !! (10% finders fee please :D)

    I'd venture to guess that the whinners about snowballs are pretty much the same folks that pop party Amps; just to muck with other players..

    Line Cutters - They make me angry; but, they are a product of our society and the "All about me" attitude. I just zone to another instance, but, they do it in-game 'cause folks can't do anything about it. Another product of Cryptic programming.. We have a gate in the PvP race, why not the same in the PvE ??

    Oh.. one more thing, then I'm done.. WINTER EVENT Livestream - PvP snowball fight ?? How's that gonna work if snowballs have no affect on other players ??..:confused:

    Thanks all.. Have fun..
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    js26568 wrote: »
    I'll remember that next time you dismiss negative feedback as the entitled whining of a minority of malcontents.

    Good, then I hope you'll reflect on what you posted here. Welcome to forums, its all bunk.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ** Yawn **
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    ** Yawn **

    +1
    Ya, I just change instances because 'the man' don't want me playing with my friends, so I stopped playing with everybody else. The WE grind used to be fun, now I'm thinking this year will likely be my last visit to Q's chilly grindville.

    :D
    I did a tides event recently, alone. 270 snowmen got by me and I killed 17. I still got the completion. Who really needs online interaction with other players anyhow.

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  • balkumbalkum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Just turned 30, still nose scanning my own gas anomalies, is that normal?:)
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    If people really want to troll the PvE race, there are plenty of other options. go ahead and drop a cover shield on the track, or invite friends to drop shields to block the entire track. It's quite easy to do, from what I hear, and it gets the job done, not that I'm condoning such behavior, nor am I asking people to PM me in game to find out how it can be done. I will absolutely NOT divulge such information to interested parties (in most cases), so don't even bother asking me (unless you plan on asking politely).

    If you aren't condoning it, why bring it up at all? (in two different threads)
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  • crazyned1066crazyned1066 Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    medalionemissary wrote: »
    I thought they had already done this

    I was on DS9 a couple nights ago and I remember there was a guy running around the Promenade throwing snowballs at passerbyers which included myself.

    What I never liked about the snowballs was that, there is no way to dodge or avoid them... they have this way of tracking you like a heat-seeking missle (ironic), and it is annoying after awhile of wanting to do something and being pelted with snowballs that you cannot escape. If people complained about Party Amplifiers, this is just as, if not more annoying only because there is no way to dodge or avoid their effects.

    Agreed. What's up with the smart snowballs?

    They should be line of sight only, preferably with a realistic trajectory. But I agree it's a little late to be fooling around with them. Besides, any fixes will likely spawn lots of other bugs.
  • rossclansforce1rossclansforce1 Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    js26568 wrote:
    100 people are going to post after me, using 10000 words to say exactly what I just said in those two words.




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