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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Mine used to be DStahl for the continuous lying.

    Now it's whatever faceless entity is responsible for the mess that is DR.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    In game: Gual of course. There's really no contest between him and the "I'll get you next time, Gadget!" style of villains we had prior to DR. Come to think of it Loris (Vorta who attacked DS9) wasn't that bad, though its a shame she practically got upstaged by the "IGYNTG" Jem'Hadar uber-first (who largely set the tone of that series).

    Out-of game: Q.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    1. All of the in-game villains are pretty simplistic and pretty shallow. Then again it's a game, not a full television production that can explore their stories. Because of this, I don't really have a favorite villain in the game.

    2. I always liked Weyoun as a villain. I would say that he's my favorite but I also liked Dukat and other Cardassian characters general use of sarcasm. Gow'ron was either neutral or a villain and I enjoyed his villainous side. Overall, I'd put Weyoun at the top of my list.
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  • snowpig74snowpig74 Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    In STO: Admiral Zelle - You follow her orders, make a complete fool of yourself and at the end she escapes and you can't do anything about it.

    Movies: none which i would consider mentionable
  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    2. I always liked Weyoun as a villain. I would say that he's my favorite but I also liked Dukat and other Cardassian characters general use of sarcasm. Gow'ron was either neutral or a villain and I enjoyed his villainous side. Overall, I'd put Weyoun at the top of my list.

    I've never thought about him as a villain, I mean he doesn't exactly do anything evil, he behaves like the federation, attempts diplomacy many times, resorts to force only when necessary, I would say he's an antagonist instead of a villain.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    In game: Gual of course. There's really no contest between him and the "I'll get you next time, Gadget!" style of villains we had prior to DR. Come to think of it Loris (Vorta who attacked DS9) wasn't that bad, though its a shame she practically got upstaged by the "IGYNTG" Jem'Hadar uber-first (who largely set the tone of that series).

    Out-of game: Q.
    Loriss was interesting because she was basically just doing her job. there wasn't any particular malice or hatred motivating her. Which is why she's so nice to you at the end of the story.
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  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Most of STOs villains are pretty awful, so it's hard to think of a 'best' Villain. Hakeev definitely gets my vote for worst though. I guess I'd vote for Gaul or Loris if I was pressed to provide a name.

    Favorite from the movies would be Khan, Valeris, or Chang.

    From the shows? Weyoun from DS9, Toreth or Tomalak from TNG, the planet killer from TOS, with no preference from VOY or ENT.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    My favorite villain? I do rather like the Elachi. Because they are non speaking. So I don't have to sit through the spittle flying expository tirades Hakeev seems to specialize in.

    I also like Sela. I kinda wish they'd done more with her.

    B'Vat is just fun. To borrow a phrase I have seen from time to time on these forums - Evul Klingon

    Gaul, I think. Unredeemably evil and reveling in it. Every time he appears, he seems to really enjoy doing things which are despicable. And he cares not one bit what the player thinks of him. So I think Gaul is my favorite STO villain.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Most of STOs villains are pretty awful, so it's hard to think of a 'best' Villain. Hakeev definitely gets my vote for worst though. I guess I'd vote for Gaul or Loris if I was pressed to provide a name.

    Favorite from the movies would be Khan, Valeris, or Chang.

    From the shows? Weyoun from DS9, Toreth or Tomalak from TNG, the planet killer from TOS, with no preference from VOY or ENT.
    ENT is easy: Silik.

    Silik is only second to Shran in terms of being a bada-- in ENT.
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  • luckychuckyluckychucky Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    1) Khan (Ricardo Montalban)
    2) Gul Dukat
    3) Lore
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    What Dukat did as occupation leader was very, very light handed. His reprisals were quite moderate, while other Cardassian leaders would have been very heavy handed, very vengeful.
    Allow me to quote you what Rich Burlew said in a similar case regarding Tarquin:
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    Just out of curiosity, who was it that told the story about how Tarquin was a tactical genius and the mastermind behind his party's plot? Was it…Tarquin?
    We have only Dukat's word that his reprisals were moderate compared to what other leaders might have done. Even if they were, that only makes him less bad than the others, like Mussolini was less bad than Hitler. Not something to be celebrated.

    As for me? Favorite STO villain: The ringleader at the end of the "Purity" Foundry mission series. Hakeev's too over-the-top to be believable and everyone else prior to DR is frankly utterly forgettable, and I haven't played enough DR to meet Gaul yet so I can't form an opinion.

    In the shows? The triumvirate of Dukat, Weyoun, and the female Founder.
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  • mainamaina Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited January 2015
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    2)] Excluding Khan, who is your favorite Star Trek villain?[/QUOTE]

    Why bother?

    I don't want to spend the first part of my new year in some trival game on the forum. Seriously, Khan. Why would you even exclude him?

    Simple answer, he wins. Khan is so awesome that not only do you exclude him from your attempt at this thread but even JJ haters have to bring him up.

    He is the man.
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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    In game villain: tough to say. Sela is fairly compelling.

    Trek villain: I'm going to step outside the box here, and say Michael Eddington. His character had an unusual depth and morality for a villain. I like to think of him as the rare INFP villain (for those of you who follow MBTI) He was driven by loyalty and righteousness... and still turned out to be a dangerous, dangerous man.
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