id just like to thank our friends the devs for the mission argala so we can grind it 900 times to get our 10 toons to level 60 with all the specialization points thank you guys great job and fun content right there IGNORE THE HATERS
My favorite part is when the NPCs sit there and bunch up and just ask to get slaughtered by AoEs. By grinding it 900x, I feel like I'm actually committing genocide and wiping out an entire race! So very Star Trek. I love it.
I suspect that if one looked at the metrics, it would indeed appear that Argala is a huge success. A disproportionately large segment of the player base runs it over and over, so they must be having just a marvelous time.
Somehow, there's a lesson in there about how metrics can be radically misinterpreted. I sure hope that doesn't shatter the bedrock certainty about the overall quality of the DR expansion.
Just 900 times?
Laughable!
I say: They can DOUBLE IT!
Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
Seriously though why are you guys still playing a game where the devs try to social engineer you.
Come play Eve where the players engineer the game, heck of a lot more fun. I got one toon to 60... and said ya see ya. As much as I have found STO fun in the past... it just isn't anymore. Stop with the passive aggression you'll just get ulcers.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
Seriously though why are you guys still playing a game where the devs try to social engineer you.
Come play Eve where the players engineer the game, heck of a lot more fun. I got one toon to 60... and said ya see ya. As much as I have found STO fun in the past... it just isn't anymore. Stop with the passive aggression you'll just get ulcers.
I'd just be another Care Bear in High-Sec. Here, I can be a Care Bear in a Guardian Class starship!
"You shoot him, I shoot you, I leave both your bodies here and go out for a late night snack.
I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
Seriously though why are you guys still playing a game where the devs try to social engineer you.
Come play Eve where the players engineer the game, heck of a lot more fun. I got one toon to 60... and said ya see ya. As much as I have found STO fun in the past... it just isn't anymore. Stop with the passive aggression you'll just get ulcers.
PvP spreadsheets in space, two of my least favorite things in space, yeah, no.
This is my Risian Corvette. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
PvP spreadsheets in space, two of my least favorite things in space, yeah, no.
You obviously haven't played eve in a few years if you ever did.
Really though... being shooed to the "correct" content all the time by the developer is so damn annoying. Enjoy your slaughter of Kazon until the next major patch... when the XP for killing Kazon will get nerfed and the XP for killing the bad guy of the month will get boosted.
You obviously haven't played eve in a few years if you ever did.
Really though... being shooed to the "correct" content all the time by the developer is so damn annoying. Enjoy your slaughter of Kazon until the next major patch... when the XP for killing Kazon will get nerfed and the XP for killing the bad guy of the month will get boosted.
Im barely on here m8 im playin wot at minute, i log on here just to get free ship and troll folk for lolz. I have considered eve but the consensus is a new player vs older player is bigger difference than sto fresh 50 and fully geared specced doffed t6'd lvl 60
As for everyone else yes trolly jokey post. If sto decs have to design the game that u only play what they say the design plan is rather flawed but as has veen stated its their game.
Im barely on here m8 im playin wot at minute, i log on here just to get free ship and troll folk for lolz. I have considered eve but the consensus is a new player vs older player is bigger difference than sto fresh 50 and fully geared specced doffed t6'd lvl 60
Not true. New players in Eve are useful in PvP from day one. I have seen month old toons kill 8 year old players.
The thing there is you train for ship sizes... someone who has been there for 10 years sure they will have 10x the skill points a new person will... however only X number of points will apply to the size of ship there in. To fully kit out the lower tiers and I mean fully its likely around a 5-6 month training plan... to get them to a point of being 90% as good as 90% of the hardcore vets half that time. Skills train in 5 levels and to get to 4 for the base skills takes anywhere from a handful of hours to a day or two. The 5th level doesn't really boost you much power wise if at all it simply allows the training of new lines of skills. With in a month in eve you can have the first line of ships "firgates" trained to a point where you are 80-90% as effective as a 10 year old toon in that size shp. With that size you can scout, explore, or be a PvP tackler for small gangs ect. CCP as in fact done a good job of setting things up so people can be effective pretty much right away. By the time you do the basic intro stuff and tool around a little bit in hi sec for a few weeks you can be ready to head off solo exploring or have enough skill points to be very useful in group pvp. Its about expectations... no your not going to be able to fly a Captial ship right away... really thou in Eve 99% of the PvP will happen in Battle Cruisers and down... and you can push and be in one of those in the first month. (not that you should... pushing for higher tier smaller ships is the way to go early on... and most people stick to those sizes for ever in the game anyway)
Not true. New players in Eve are useful in PvP from day one. I have seen month old toons kill 8 year old players.
The thing there is you train for ship sizes... someone who has been there for 10 years sure they will have 10x the skill points a new person will... however only X number of points will apply to the size of ship there in. To fully kit out the lower tiers and I mean fully its likely around a 5-6 month training plan... to get them to a point of being 90% as good as 90% of the hardcore vets half that time. Skills train in 5 levels and to get to 4 for the base skills takes anywhere from a handful of hours to a day or two. The 5th level doesn't really boost you much power wise if at all it simply allows the training of new lines of skills. With in a month in eve you can have the first line of ships "firgates" trained to a point where you are 80-90% as effective as a 10 year old toon in that size shp. With that size you can scout, explore, or be a PvP tackler for small gangs ect. CCP as in fact done a good job of setting things up so people can be effective pretty much right away. By the time you do the basic intro stuff and tool around a little bit in hi sec for a few weeks you can be ready to head off solo exploring or have enough skill points to be very useful in group pvp. Its about expectations... no your not going to be able to fly a Captial ship right away... really thou in Eve 99% of the PvP will happen in Battle Cruisers and down... and you can push and be in one of those in the first month. (not that you should... pushing for higher tier smaller ships is the way to go early on... and most people stick to those sizes for ever in the game anyway)
Im confused by all the skill tree training business tbh id need to read alot more to understand what ut all means etc etc, wouldnt even know wat ship to look at let alone buy for pvp lol
Im confused by all the skill tree training business tbh id need to read alot more to understand what ut all means etc etc, wouldnt even know wat ship to look at let alone buy for pvp lol
Ya do some reading on it... its hard to grasp till you get in the game though. Hey if you never have first few weeks are free... worth seeing it if you never have.
You can't grind anything in eve is what it comes down to.
You earn skill points ever Second... online or not.
You pick what "skills" you are having the computer upload to your brain. So skills like "Small Energy Turret" Level 1 lets you use such a thing, and gives you 2% dmg with them. it takes like 6min to train. Level 2 gives you 2% more dmg and takes 20min to train... level 3 gives you 2% more and lets you train "Medium Energy Turret" (which is pointless if you are flying a Frigate class ship that loads small turrets... but you train it if you are moving up to a Cruiser class ship that uses medium size guns)....
If that makes sense you can see how new players aren't at a massive disadvantage. Skills train faster at the lower ranks. Rank 1 for core skills is often 5-10min... and rank 2 around 20min 3 around an hour... 4 anywhere from 2-3 hours to a day or so.
Thing is with eve... you need to train stuff to do just about anything. Including selling things on the market (you can sell a few things with no points but a bunch of Trade skills increase that number or let you remote sell from far away locations ect)... You also train buisness skills, Science and Development stuff (crafting) ect ect.
For combat the stuff you train for one class of ship doesn't always apply to another class of ship. There are things people consider "core" Skills like repair skills ect. The Core type stuff you can have all trained pretty early in the game "with in a few months to max almost all of it" at that point your as effective as anyone that has been on for years... cause the skills they will have trained beyond that will be specializing them into a roll of some kind. Some of the most exciting PvP in EVE will happen early in your life in Eve. Like the first time you group up with 2 or 3 "pirate" players in cheap junky Firgate ships and take down some high isk ships. The thing you will hear in Eve a lot is "don't fly anything you can't afford to loose" The small frigate / Destroyer type ships are cheap enough that when they pop on you (and it will happen) its not a big deal and mostly a good laugh.
Indeed, why would an obvious spam topic be closed. There's no need whatsoever for that. (in case anyone missed it, that was sarcasm).
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
Indeed, why would an obvious spam topic be closed. There's no need whatsoever for that. (in case anyone missed it, that was sarcasm).
Still waiting on your explanation on why you're so adamant against one 'spam topic' and silent as a fish regarding another 'spam topic', o "Righteous One". :rolleyes:
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My favorite part is when the NPCs sit there and bunch up and just ask to get slaughtered by AoEs. By grinding it 900x, I feel like I'm actually committing genocide and wiping out an entire race! So very Star Trek. I love it.
10/10 immersion.
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
Somehow, there's a lesson in there about how metrics can be radically misinterpreted. I sure hope that doesn't shatter the bedrock certainty about the overall quality of the DR expansion.
I don't think anyone is at this point. It's for the players and the post I found somewhat amusing.
Laughable!
I say: They can DOUBLE IT!
Seriously though why are you guys still playing a game where the devs try to social engineer you.
Come play Eve where the players engineer the game, heck of a lot more fun. I got one toon to 60... and said ya see ya. As much as I have found STO fun in the past... it just isn't anymore. Stop with the passive aggression you'll just get ulcers.
...thats 90 missions for 10 spec points per toon. Where do I sign up ? Most of us did more than that for 1 piece of Omega gear back in the day.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Don't ever expect a response. But they do glance them over from time to time.
I'd just be another Care Bear in High-Sec. Here, I can be a Care Bear in a Guardian Class starship!
"You shoot him, I shoot you, I leave both your bodies here and go out for a late night snack.
I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
PvP spreadsheets in space, two of my least favorite things in space, yeah, no.
You obviously haven't played eve in a few years if you ever did.
Really though... being shooed to the "correct" content all the time by the developer is so damn annoying. Enjoy your slaughter of Kazon until the next major patch... when the XP for killing Kazon will get nerfed and the XP for killing the bad guy of the month will get boosted.
and yes i love grind argala lol
cryptic can not take the heat
system Lord Baal is dead
Im barely on here m8 im playin wot at minute, i log on here just to get free ship and troll folk for lolz. I have considered eve but the consensus is a new player vs older player is bigger difference than sto fresh 50 and fully geared specced doffed t6'd lvl 60
Not true. New players in Eve are useful in PvP from day one. I have seen month old toons kill 8 year old players.
The thing there is you train for ship sizes... someone who has been there for 10 years sure they will have 10x the skill points a new person will... however only X number of points will apply to the size of ship there in. To fully kit out the lower tiers and I mean fully its likely around a 5-6 month training plan... to get them to a point of being 90% as good as 90% of the hardcore vets half that time. Skills train in 5 levels and to get to 4 for the base skills takes anywhere from a handful of hours to a day or two. The 5th level doesn't really boost you much power wise if at all it simply allows the training of new lines of skills. With in a month in eve you can have the first line of ships "firgates" trained to a point where you are 80-90% as effective as a 10 year old toon in that size shp. With that size you can scout, explore, or be a PvP tackler for small gangs ect. CCP as in fact done a good job of setting things up so people can be effective pretty much right away. By the time you do the basic intro stuff and tool around a little bit in hi sec for a few weeks you can be ready to head off solo exploring or have enough skill points to be very useful in group pvp. Its about expectations... no your not going to be able to fly a Captial ship right away... really thou in Eve 99% of the PvP will happen in Battle Cruisers and down... and you can push and be in one of those in the first month. (not that you should... pushing for higher tier smaller ships is the way to go early on... and most people stick to those sizes for ever in the game anyway)
Im confused by all the skill tree training business tbh id need to read alot more to understand what ut all means etc etc, wouldnt even know wat ship to look at let alone buy for pvp lol
Ya do some reading on it... its hard to grasp till you get in the game though. Hey if you never have first few weeks are free... worth seeing it if you never have.
You can't grind anything in eve is what it comes down to.
You earn skill points ever Second... online or not.
You pick what "skills" you are having the computer upload to your brain. So skills like "Small Energy Turret" Level 1 lets you use such a thing, and gives you 2% dmg with them. it takes like 6min to train. Level 2 gives you 2% more dmg and takes 20min to train... level 3 gives you 2% more and lets you train "Medium Energy Turret" (which is pointless if you are flying a Frigate class ship that loads small turrets... but you train it if you are moving up to a Cruiser class ship that uses medium size guns)....
If that makes sense you can see how new players aren't at a massive disadvantage. Skills train faster at the lower ranks. Rank 1 for core skills is often 5-10min... and rank 2 around 20min 3 around an hour... 4 anywhere from 2-3 hours to a day or so.
Thing is with eve... you need to train stuff to do just about anything. Including selling things on the market (you can sell a few things with no points but a bunch of Trade skills increase that number or let you remote sell from far away locations ect)... You also train buisness skills, Science and Development stuff (crafting) ect ect.
For combat the stuff you train for one class of ship doesn't always apply to another class of ship. There are things people consider "core" Skills like repair skills ect. The Core type stuff you can have all trained pretty early in the game "with in a few months to max almost all of it" at that point your as effective as anyone that has been on for years... cause the skills they will have trained beyond that will be specializing them into a roll of some kind. Some of the most exciting PvP in EVE will happen early in your life in Eve. Like the first time you group up with 2 or 3 "pirate" players in cheap junky Firgate ships and take down some high isk ships. The thing you will hear in Eve a lot is "don't fly anything you can't afford to loose" The small frigate / Destroyer type ships are cheap enough that when they pop on you (and it will happen) its not a big deal and mostly a good laugh.
Indeed, why would an obvious spam topic be closed. There's no need whatsoever for that.
(in case anyone missed it, that was sarcasm).
We were having 17x as much fun in that thread as elsewhere, is why.
Also that we where grouping up and exponentially increasing the amount of fun we where earning was clearly an exploit of the forum system.
Some accounts even needed to be rolled back.
Lol, ya. Before they closed it, I had 1255 posts! :P
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Still waiting on your explanation on why you're so adamant against one 'spam topic' and silent as a fish regarding another 'spam topic', o "Righteous One". :rolleyes:
Even the people who play Argala hate Argala.