Get a ship. Scan this. Kill that. Scan this. Beam down here. Scan this. Run there. Scam that. Run back Kill that. Read this. Scan that. Scan this. Fly there... you might have a seizure in this through sheer repetitive boredom.. sound familiar?
But at least there is a story to read while you are doing it. And you are doing it in a Trek ship and fighting Trek aliens that talk to you.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Get a ship, buy some fish, plot a course to some planet that wants to buy fish. Fly there. Sell the fish, buy some fuel, buy some minerals they sell there, plot a course to some planet that wants to buy minerals. Fly there. Sell the minerals, buy some fuel and a new laser, buy some textiles they sell there, plot a course to some planet that wants to buy textiles. Fly there. Sell the textiles, buy some fuel, buy some grain they sell there, plot a course to some planet that wants to buy grain. Fly there....
And once in a while a Pirate might attack you for your cargo. And once in a while you might take a bounty and go attack a pirate to make some credits. Or maybe you want to go and fly around an asteroid to mine some ore. With your ultimate goal to buy more weapons, a bigger ship, etc. And all the time hoping no one kills you and you have to start over.
Sim games are for people who like mindless activities with no story. ED and SC's fans will be current Eve players. Others might give it a try but then they will be back to an RPG in a month or two when they realize there is no story, the game is full of nerd raging pvpers, and no one told them about insurance until after they had lost their second ship.
Well, its totally up to you how you want to play it. There is alternatives also if you dont want to be a fish trader etc.
But at least there is a story to read while you are doing it. And you are doing it in a Trek ship and fighting Trek aliens that talk to you.
We talking about the same game right? For me the story interest died... how many more years of something bad happening so blame the borg or Iconians should we suffer?
We talking about the same game right? For me the story interest died... how many more years of something bad happening so blame the borg or Iconians should we suffer?
Isn't that always the case even in normal Star trek? If someone wasn't "evil" or misunderstood all the time there wouldn't be an episode.
Well, its totally up to you how you want to play it. There is alternatives also if you dont want to be a fish trader etc.
I want to trade in fish... there's good money in fish... more than in self sealing stem bolts or medical supplies or whatever tradeable TRIBBLE sto has... in fact. .. isn't trading one of the missions????? Wow... I made 60 energy credits... only another 2 million seven hundred thousand to go for my key...
We talking about the same game right? For me the story interest died... how many more years of something bad happening so blame the borg or Iconians should we suffer?
Look, if you think you will love ED then great! Go for it and have all the fun you can. I have been playtesting it for over a month now and I am already bored with it - and I have several hundreds dollars tied into SC and still have nearly a year to wait for that to come out. But if ED is your kind of game, wonderful! Enjoy the TRIBBLE out of it. But I will hazard a guess that come Feb 16th you will probably be back here complaining about ED just as much as you currently do STO.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Look, if you think you will love ED then great! Go for it and have all the fun you can. I have been playtesting it for over a month now and I am already bored with it - and I have several hundreds dollars tied into SC and still have nearly a year to wait for that to come out. But if ED is your kind of game, wonderful! Enjoy the TRIBBLE out of it. But I will hazard a guess that come Feb 16th you will probably be back here complaining about ED just as much as you currently do STO.
I've followed bits of Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen here and there. I was a fan of the glory days of space combat games during the 1990s and early 2000s.
That said, it's nothing at all like Star Trek combat, unless you're aiming for "Peregrine / To'Duj / Scorpion Simulator."
Also OP, realize that STO only exists due to the IP name. The launch and state of the game was terrible and only survives into today solely because of that name.
Anyways, while there have been many starfighter-based games in gaming, stuff showing combat with capital ships is another.
You are right, the combat isnt like in STO, in ED you can fly 360 up and down, left and right. Lol remember old tie-fighter....yes. That good.
But ED is based on piloting skills, its not pay to win. Piloting skills can really make a difference even with a "noob" ship. And did i mention that you can buy every ship with a ingame currency that is easy to come by?
And i dont care if STO lives or dies, ive spend lots of real life EC on it, its totally up to player base how the game does. All im doing is giving an alternative game to play that actually has more to do with Star Trek than Star Trek Online.
Do I need shares in a company to play their games? I have an LTS to DCUO and LotRO as well as STO. Do I need shares to play those games too?
It is OK to not like a game. I think STO is an average game, but I have been gaming for 17 years since Ultima Onlien came out and I have seen this "grass is greener" thing about forthcoming games hundreds of times over those years. There was a time before STO came out that people on the forum called it the WoW-killer. I laughed at them then too. It is OK to play or like more then 1 game. Everything does not need to be black or white.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
You are right, the combat isnt like in STO, in ED you can fly 360 up and down, left and right. Lol remember old tie-fighter....yes. That good.
But ED is based on piloting skills, its not pay to win. Piloting skills can really make a difference even with a "noob" ship. And did i mention that you can buy every ship with a ingame currency that is easy to come by?
And i dont care if STO lives or dies, ive spend lots of real life EC on it, its totally up to player base how the game does. All im doing is giving an alternative game to play that actually has more to do with Star Trek than Star Trek Online.
Do I need shares in a company to play their games? I have an LTS to DCUO and LotRO as well as STO. Do I need shares to play those games too?
It is OK to not like a game. I think STO is an average game, but I have been gaming for 17 years since Ultima Onlien came out and I have seen this "grass is greener" thing about forthcoming games hundreds of times over those years. There was a time before STO came out that people on the forum called it the WoW-killer. I laughed at them then too. It is OK to play or like more then 1 game. Everything does not need to be black or white.
I completely agree... It's not black and white... just you seem to defend it to the hilt. And also the game IS about your toons after all.... ..
I completely agree... It's not black and white... just you seem to defend it to the hilt. And also the game IS about your toons after all.... ..
I am not defending STO. I am saying ED is not the game most people think it is. It is not an RPG at all. It is a simulation game. There is no story, there is no adventure. There is simply you doing things over and over to try and raise credits so that you can buy a 1 million credit ship and gear it up, and then a 2 million credit ship and gear it up, etc. That is great if you like that type of game. But if you like MMORPGs it will bore you to death.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Well, if you don't know either, make sure to report on this when it's out: If it has any of those, I think I'd be interested.
Especially if they found a way to generate this procedurally, so tomorrow I might encounter a Trelane/Q like alien, but the next time an Organian-like or a Cytherian-like alien.
Well there will be factions, that i know. The one i dont know is what someone asked, is if there will be any aliens. Devs responded that they dont want to spoil it all. So we just have to wait and see. " No one knows yet"
But its all looking better than STO, atleast for me.
I am not defending STO. I am saying ED is not the game most people think it is. It is not an RPG at all. It is a simulation game. There is no story, there is no adventure. There is simply you doing things over and over to try and raise credits so that you can buy a 1 million credit ship and gear it up, and then a 2 million credit ship and gear it up, etc. That is great if you like that type of game. But if you like MMORPGs it will bore you to death.
But.... that's sto... seen the exchange? That's any game with its own currency... sto is a cheap knock off that they created in 2 years that is showing it's age nowadays...
Do I need shares in a company to play their games? I have an LTS to DCUO and LotRO as well as STO. Do I need shares to play those games too?
It is OK to not like a game. I think STO is an average game, but I have been gaming for 17 years since Ultima Onlien came out and I have seen this "grass is greener" thing about forthcoming games hundreds of times over those years. There was a time before STO came out that people on the forum called it the WoW-killer. I laughed at them then too. It is OK to play or like more then 1 game. Everything does not need to be black or white.
WOAH! Im just pointing out a game that is more Star Trek than STO is for the fans of ST, no need to be so sentimental.
But.... that's sto... seen the exchange? That's any game with its own currency... sto is a cheap knock off that they created in 2 years that is showing it's age nowadays...
I get that you hate STO, but if you cannot see the difference between an MMORPG and Sim game that is all on you. When I do a mission I read the mission - and hey, I have people in my fleet who just power-through the words to get to the battle. But at the end of the day most of the people I play with care about the story and why they are doing it. I understand you have done it all and you are bored with STO - I have left dozens of games I grew bored with. That is fine if you are ready to move on. But I play STO for the Trek feel and story, not for the pew-pew - which is why I do not PvP here.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
WOAH! Im just pointing out a game that is more Star Trek than STO is for the fans of ST, no need to be so sentimental.
I am sorry, but I do not see how a game that has no story at all, and zero Trek material in it, can be more Trek then STO. By that simplistic logic Eve is more Trek then STO.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I get that you hate STO, but if you cannot see the difference between an MMORPG and Sim game that is all on you. When I do a mission I read the mission - and hey, I have people in my fleet who just power-through the words to get to the battle. But at the end of the day most of the people I play with care about the story and why they are doing it. I understand you have done it all and you are bored with STO - I have left dozens of games I grew bored with. That is fine if you are ready to move on. But I play STO for the Trek feel and story, not for the pew-pew - which is why I do not PvP here.
How did you come up with the idea that he hates the game? Did you check on your miracleball? meh...
I got a feeling you havent even logged in for a long time....meh.
I get that you hate STO, but if you cannot see the difference between an MMORPG and Sim game that is all on you. When I do a mission I read the mission - and hey, I have people in my fleet who just power-through the words to get to the battle. But at the end of the day most of the people I play with care about the story and why they are doing it. I understand you have done it all and you are bored with STO - I have left dozens of games I grew bored with. That is fine if you are ready to move on. But I play STO for the Trek feel and story, not for the pew-pew - which is why I do not PvP here.
I don't hate STO... I hate what it has become. I hate that the potential isn't being realised. I hahate that they spend hundreds of thousands on voice actors as gimmicks rather than spend it on developing it or improving the servers. I hate that it is constantly trying to pry money from you. Bombarding you with suggestive messages that say if you spend money you can get a shiny... want to write a new story? Nah...cheaper to let the fans do it. We will release one every 5 to 6 months to show that we still want their money... It's a con. Pvpers? The system is so archaic now that there is simply no fun... It's all an epic fail... so when a game sugh as SC or ED comes along they may wonder where their fan base has gone...but by then it will be too late...
I am sorry, but I do not see how a game that has no story at all, and zero Trek material in it, can be more Trek then STO. By that simplistic logic Eve is more Trek then STO.
Well, i respect your point of view. I just dont see the Trek in STO. Sure the gimick ships and uniforms etc might give you some boner of ST but behind it layes a greedy Ferengi from China. STO isnt much of Star Trek. But ED has the principall idea of ST.
" To bodly go where no man has gone before"
Now can you claim that STO has 400 billion star systems and you could run them in less than 15mins.?
I am sorry, but I do not see how a game that has no story at all, and zero Trek material in it, can be more Trek then STO. By that simplistic logic Eve is more Trek then STO.
Yeah, the more I read about ED, the less interest I have in playing it....
So what are you saying? What is it that you have been reading, give me/us facts that you dont like about it?
I browsed the wiki and it reminds me a lot of EVE.... where you spend your time grinding to get resources to buy stuff so that you can grind to get more resources. sure it has a lot of places to grind for stuff, but.... why care?
i was replying to this: Originally Posted by loucosta
you cannot compare Elite to STO they are two different games and genre.
And i agreed i cant compare STO and ED. I was just pointing out that ED has lots more to do with ST than STO. Thats about it, up to you what game you want to play. Just a heads up for people who really love ST and space sims where you can explore strange new worlds etc. Surely you know now that STO isnt about anything what ST stands for...prove me wrong.
I browsed the wiki and it reminds me a lot of EVE.... where you spend your time grinding to get resources to buy stuff so that you can grind to get more resources. sure it has a lot of places to grind for stuff, but.... why care?
"Why care?!" Up to you what you care and what not. Now would you like some tofu with your question?
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Well, its totally up to you how you want to play it. There is alternatives also if you dont want to be a fish trader etc.
We talking about the same game right? For me the story interest died... how many more years of something bad happening so blame the borg or Iconians should we suffer?
Isn't that always the case even in normal Star trek? If someone wasn't "evil" or misunderstood all the time there wouldn't be an episode.
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I want to trade in fish... there's good money in fish... more than in self sealing stem bolts or medical supplies or whatever tradeable TRIBBLE sto has... in fact. .. isn't trading one of the missions????? Wow... I made 60 energy credits... only another 2 million seven hundred thousand to go for my key...
Do you have shares in PWE as well?
You are right, the combat isnt like in STO, in ED you can fly 360 up and down, left and right. Lol remember old tie-fighter....yes. That good.
But ED is based on piloting skills, its not pay to win. Piloting skills can really make a difference even with a "noob" ship. And did i mention that you can buy every ship with a ingame currency that is easy to come by?
And i dont care if STO lives or dies, ive spend lots of real life EC on it, its totally up to player base how the game does. All im doing is giving an alternative game to play that actually has more to do with Star Trek than Star Trek Online.
It is OK to not like a game. I think STO is an average game, but I have been gaming for 17 years since Ultima Onlien came out and I have seen this "grass is greener" thing about forthcoming games hundreds of times over those years. There was a time before STO came out that people on the forum called it the WoW-killer. I laughed at them then too. It is OK to play or like more then 1 game. Everything does not need to be black or white.
No more infinite space but only 2 flying...
I completely agree... It's not black and white... just you seem to defend it to the hilt. And also the game IS about your toons after all.... ..
Well there will be factions, that i know. The one i dont know is what someone asked, is if there will be any aliens. Devs responded that they dont want to spoil it all. So we just have to wait and see. " No one knows yet"
But its all looking better than STO, atleast for me.
But.... that's sto... seen the exchange? That's any game with its own currency... sto is a cheap knock off that they created in 2 years that is showing it's age nowadays...
WOAH! Im just pointing out a game that is more Star Trek than STO is for the fans of ST, no need to be so sentimental.
How did you come up with the idea that he hates the game? Did you check on your miracleball? meh...
I got a feeling you havent even logged in for a long time....meh.
I don't hate STO... I hate what it has become. I hate that the potential isn't being realised. I hahate that they spend hundreds of thousands on voice actors as gimmicks rather than spend it on developing it or improving the servers. I hate that it is constantly trying to pry money from you. Bombarding you with suggestive messages that say if you spend money you can get a shiny... want to write a new story? Nah...cheaper to let the fans do it. We will release one every 5 to 6 months to show that we still want their money... It's a con. Pvpers? The system is so archaic now that there is simply no fun... It's all an epic fail... so when a game sugh as SC or ED comes along they may wonder where their fan base has gone...but by then it will be too late...
Well, i respect your point of view. I just dont see the Trek in STO. Sure the gimick ships and uniforms etc might give you some boner of ST but behind it layes a greedy Ferengi from China. STO isnt much of Star Trek. But ED has the principall idea of ST.
" To bodly go where no man has gone before"
Now can you claim that STO has 400 billion star systems and you could run them in less than 15mins.?
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i was replying to this: Originally Posted by loucosta
you cannot compare Elite to STO they are two different games and genre.
And i agreed i cant compare STO and ED. I was just pointing out that ED has lots more to do with ST than STO. Thats about it, up to you what game you want to play. Just a heads up for people who really love ST and space sims where you can explore strange new worlds etc. Surely you know now that STO isnt about anything what ST stands for...prove me wrong.
"Why care?!" Up to you what you care and what not. Now would you like some tofu with your question?
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