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autumnturning
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Well, to be fair it isn't Fed either.
However, the next batch of Faction T6 ships come out and it's Fed only?...
I'll be honest I am still in shock to why the KDF even got any ships. Although if you look at how the game has been going since DR has launched you will notice how the game was more dead than when people learned all their gear was going to be obsolete with DR.
As far as more KDF ships I don't see how that will happen especially this time since most players just went and bought the pack versus purchasing just the KDF ships. So we aren't really counted if we did it that way in the metrics lol.
Although what would really be a change for the better is when they did this kind of pot luck thing with these special ships. If they would start something up where federation has the ability to get something from a certain race like for example maybe a betazoid fortune teller cruiser or something from the orion, gorn, nausicaan, etc line that is in the game but we never had access to buying lol.
Personally though if this game lasts 6 more months I will be amazed. The whole intel ships and the skill point grind from this expansion which isn't really an expansion but a true grasping at straws just to keep alive looks desperate on their part to stay in business.
Winter 2011 - Jem'Hadar Attack ship
Winter 2013 - Voth Bulwark Dreadnought Cruiser
Winter 2014 - Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruiser
As far as the last ship being Federation, the entire Expansion is about Voyager so it doesn't make sense to not have a Tier 6 Voyager. If Voyager encountered new Romulan and Klingon ships in the Delta Quadrant, then they would have been represented as well.
The idea of a T6 VOY after DR's release I have no issue with.
The idea of nothing at all in terms of Faction T6 Ships outside the 1 intel / 1 non-intel ships for the KDF & Roms is what I have issue with. Esp in contrast to the whopping 6 Fed T6 ships out now.
Obviously Cryptic went overboard with the Federation ships, but since Delta Rising is all about Voyager, a Tier 6 Dauntless and Tier 6 Intrepid were necessary ASAP. Unfortunately, Star Trek is all about the Federation so Starfleet will always get priority. The next Tier 6 Klingon and Romulan ships will be out for the Anniversary in February unless they release C-Store ships in January.
I've never really liked that line of reasoning, "Star Trek was always about the Federation."
Sorry, but not really. It is more that Star Trek was about Starfleet, and to be more specific and true, really it was about individual ships (and one station), along with the main crew on said ships (and station).
But to say that because Star Trek was so focused on that, is justification to say that Feds in STO should always have priority, just is not the right thing at all.
If anything, they should use this to try and really stretch out and make more unique designs for Romulans and Klingons. The huge glut of canon ships really kind of holds the devs back, because so many are just 'set in stone' already.
Despite all that has happened in the game, there are Klingon players who want to support the game, but aren't able to because of the severe lack of ships that they are given, same thing for the Romulan players nowadays as well. Because in the end, everything DOES go to the Fed side. There's cross-faction stuff, yes, but there is always the air of 'feels like Fed' for all of it.
Is it really so wrong for a non-Fed to ask for something they can buy to support the game?
Admiral Dananra Lekall - R.R.W. Teverresh, Deihu-class Warbird
General J'Kar son of K'tsulan - I.K.S. Dlahath, Vo'devwl-class Carrier
The box and lobi and R&D pack ships are also quite good for all 3 factions.
I have NO issues with cross faction ships; I like them. Esp for my roms, who prefer them to the rom lineup which is redundant. If you have ONE tac seated tac console rom gunship, getting a second ship is just more of the same.
We need some faction ships, but I will gladly take cross faction ships of this quality. Esp the free one. If I can earn the dil to open a pack or 3 for the elachi, so be it. No money on it though... no money at all for pwe until kdf or rom get a good t6.
They also encountered a D7. So T6 D7 here we come :P
Heh, I bought that T6 KDF raptor even tho I didn't need or want it, just to support the faction. Isn't that what cryptic expects of us ? No I didn't actually spend any money, but my zen bank is now empty after 2 years.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I bought one too, but I used the MU event dil (and a lot of farmer toons).
Its a pretty good ship. We can complain about # of ships, and be upset at that issue, but the maha is a well made ship and performs its intended role well.
I do have complaints about nine T6 ships divided by three factions somehow equaling 5 Federation ships in the Ops Pack. I do have complaints about there being no faction-specific mini versions of the Ops Pack available for players that don't want or need 5 Fed ships while only getting two for their main faction. I do have complaints about there being six T6 C-Store options for the Federation and only two each for the KDF and Roms.
I have NO complaints about cross-faction ship offerings in and of themselves. Those are available in equal number and capability to any faction. They don't continue bloating one faction's options without contributing anything to another. These, I am just fine with.
Something interesting like a dual-Lt. Comm Tac or the Mirror Negh'Var with a Tac slot bumped to Lt. Comm along with the Lt. Comm Sci it has would be cool in my book.
The Regent's counter part is the Fleet Tor'kaht, BTW. We just happened to get the more-or-less clone before the original came out due to a schedule slip.
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Any particular reason the Shesar would be good for KDF? On Feds, the Reciprocity Ship Trait can bring it on par with at least Falchion variant of the Scimitar, with Tac and Intel traits being able to be knocked down to global in most PvE. Without that, or using an Aux2Bat 1 and 2 stacked build (which may or may not reduce the cooldown on Intel abilities -- had issues with that on an Aux2Bat Qib,) it doesn't seem much more capable than a Bortasqu' unless deploying the bottom half increases the turnrate.
Honestly...
JHAS is an anomaly. First, its not in box or lobi store, so the supply is much, much, much lower than others. Second, its a decent ship in and of itself AND its tied to the carrier for pets, so demand is high. The price reflects this. Most players cannot easily afford a JHAS, this much is true.
Most box ships cost a fraction of the JHAS, and most players can earn one over time. I mean, take a look at the t6 offerings: the benthan is under 70 million, and the t6 lobi ship is the standard 800 lobi or whatever price (did not look but its probably under 100 mil).
It takes 2-3 months to earn 70 million for a modestly active player, sure. But if you want the ship, you CAN earn that, or for a bit longer, 100 mil for the more "average" box ship price for the t5s. I mean, one of the first things I did as a new player was earn 80 mil for my recluse -- granted, I found a nice way to make money (it was at a time when rom SRO officers were 10 mil each, so I sold officers over a month or so). But you can do it now with blue crafting mats, upgrade tokens, certain upgradeable crafted purple weapons at MK2, and a dozen other ways will get you money hand over fist. The Rom officer market crashed, but since DR I have already earned 1 box ship and am close to getting a benthan cruiser --- all that from in-game earnings. I also have a t6 raptor, also from in-game earnings (that being 100% of my take from mirror event across a LOT of chars, but the others, from EC, were just farmed with my main 2 chars).
Its not even close to impossible to own the majority of the cross faction ships. A small # of them are very pricey, but again, EC earning is just a time sink, and if you want it, you will earn it, eventually.
off the top of my head I have earned in game
recluse
JHDC
nicor
TS adapated cruiser (X2)
and probably one or two more
well, yea, absolutely.
Rom is obvious. Count the # of scimitars you see. Multiply by 25$. It a good chunk of change.
KDF is unclear. Factor out the lifers and fed alts ... its hard to say. I mean, I see a millionty karfi carriers, but you can get it free as a lifer, so fed alts in cheap ships abound. Same for half the t5 ship lineup, there are so few, and several can be had for "free" for fed lifer alts. And the DR pack --- you can't count the # of mahas and cruisers because they were "free" to fed alts. Its not as simple as counting scimitars. But someone out there is spending on KDF... theres a KDF in almost every STF I do, and their gear and ships came from some money somewhere (even if originally bought for fed, its a paying customer).
If they make it, someone will buy it. A lot of someones.
I would like a T6 BoP though...
Convert some Dilithium to Zen, and buy the "Cap Increase" from the Zen store.
T6 GORN SUPPORT (science vessel) DREADNOUGHT LETS GO CRYPTIC!
I'm right there with you on this one. We've gotten two nice 'medium' attack-battlecruisers(Mogh and Qib) recently, but I'm still wanting a big, beefy C-store Klingon "battleship" to replace the Neghvar(and Bortasqu, to a lesser extent).
However, KDF doesn't get ships very often and it is in "need" of a T6 Raider and Carrier before anything else. (A new FDC would round off the defensive/support line-up nicely as well.)
I'm hoping they are going to leave their track record in the past and start pushing out stuff we really need. Like the T6 carrier and as well like geko said once about making bops where they had roles this could work out if they push enough of them out.
As well I've been waiting around 2 years since Geko said in a podcast a C-store Negh'var coming very soon lol. Lets hope their lack of KDF development turns out to be a good thing saving room to where we get our c-store ships we should have as T6's instead of T5-U's which they would have been if they pushed out ships like they do the fed side.
One design Idea I wanted to see get done for a true hit and run bop would be one that builds up insane weapons power amounts while cloaked. Then it keeps dropping the longer you stay decloaked where it would put more emphasis on using the battle cloak since in theory being decloaked too long would put you at bare minimum weapons power amounts. Just my 2 cents on this ship issue.
Sighs....this is something I've dreamed about...