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lianthelia
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I was wondering if anyone has tried yet...mostly if they have set upgrades or since they're easily obtainable maybe they have random ones?
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Sadly I don't have pics of anything other than deflectors, as those are more important than anything else for my science focused play
Thanks for posting that.
Thanks...I don't suppose you'd know if they're set stats? I just wondering because I'm questioning how good the set would be because the pre UR/Epic stats aren't very good and Fleet or rep items do look better over this set.
Yeah it is...the pieces are extremely weak...even after upgraded to MK XIV Epic.
Doubt it but maybe we'll get lucky and they will do a pass over it sometime during the event.
OH **** YOUR STUPID ****ING 120s POST TIMER...
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
If the set doesn't even get a little bit of a buff then the warp core is kinda pointless...
My only question is would it be WC and Shield or WC and Engine?
I have 3 main issues with the Breen Set:
1. Shields are absolute TRIBBLE.
2. For the Breen, a group reknowned from the Dominion War for their powerful drains, as well as the Breen Set's bonus ability of "Breen Energy Dissipator," it has terrible Flow Capacitors. Breen Set is the absolute worst you can do for any Drain abilities. Jem'Hadar Deflector or even some cheap deflector will come with superior Flow Capacitors. This is another case where it seems there were 2 totally different people working on the stats of a set and had no idea what the other was doing.
3. Looking at the Epic Deflector pic, meh. Doesn't really make your ship tougher, doesn't really make the most useful of Science skills any better, doesn't make you hit more accurately nor harder. The stats are so spread out that nothing is any good.
Yeah but that doesn't change anything...Transphasics will still suck...they're just to weak.
They aren't that fast...still going to want some PWO's.
This needs to find its way onto the Wiki because *someone* will want to know what they are getting for the cost of upgrades.
Is a lot of stuff that should be on the Wiki that isn't...I don't think people care a whole lot about the Wiki anymore...it took them weeks to add some things and even now still is little to no info about upgrades for most ships.
Pretty disappointing. The set definitely needs a buff in all areas IMO. With the current idiotic cost of upgrades, this set or even any of it's pieces are simply not worth bothering to upgrade.
Its purposely not as powerful because of the means of obtaining it. The rep gear is more powerful so if I were to upgrade any item of that rarity it would be rep gear. This was explained a couple weeks back by errm i forget who (i am terrible with names the dev that designed the upgrade system) he explained that gear like that breen set obtained by solo questing is purposely less powerful then say something obtained via the rep system
so basically not all purples are equal and take into consideration the way you obtained it.
If they don't want to make the Mk XII set good, then that's fair enough, but people still put resources into making that XII kit a XIV set, and as such the XIV set should be comparable to other high-end sets. Whilst it doesn't cost marks and dilithium to initially acquire, it does take time (and grinding of the winter event).
All sets, be that Aegis, Jem Hadar, Breen, Nukara, Dyson (etc) should all be comparable, and at the same level balance, especially at the Mk XIV status.
Yeah...it is by far the worst of the non rep sets in the game and beyond that it isn't even good at what its supposed to do...for being a set from a race who is based on draining energy...as we learned in DS9, one of the best in the quadrant. It just flat out sucks...the drain is identical to Energy Siphon 2...except it's weaker since I imagine like all other free powers it has base cooldown.
There is just nothing at all unique to it...they could put some kind of cryoplasma debuff or slow on it but it doesn't, on top of that it has such low flow capacitors it's not even funny.
Thanks for posting this.
I was really gung ho to get the cores for all of my Characters but now I might only pick it up to mess with on a few of them instead.
The Cores and the set on the whole just do not seem worth the investment
Oh well I guess it this just means that I'll be picking up more kit mods.
The argument to have the Breen Space Set suck because of the free means of attaining it is utter TRIBBLE.
Solanae Space Set, even without the Solanae Warp Core is THE go to set for Particle Generator-based SCI builds. Even on TAC oriented ships like Escorts and TAC Cruisers, I have found the hull leech bonus to be great in helping out on repairs. And if you DO have the Solanae Warp Core, it upgrades fabulously with more bonus power, and it even gets the awesome [AMP] mod. Matter of fact, this "free" set in general upgrades very well.
The Jem'Hadar Set isn't the best but it's good for Polaron Builds and most importantly for dedicated Drain Builds due to the high Flow Capacitors Skill bonus. What makes the JH Set work for Polaron & Drain Builds is the actual healthy amount of Flow Capacitors Skill in the deflector. It reinforces:
+ Polaron Proc Drain
+ All drains based on Flow Capacitors, to include the 3 set bonus "Antiproton Sweep."
The JH Set knows what it's about and is designed to support that role.
Of the 3 freebie space sets, 1 is decent, 1 is extremely good, 1 is after all these years, still utter TRIBBLE even after the inclusion of new Breen Ships and Breen-specific pieces. It's not even serviceable.
That is an absolutely horrible core even with UR. My goodness...
Edit again:
Well, I just want to go rant again about another set having no synergy, especially since the Absolute Zero Space Set has gotten the most attention of all space sets over the years. And it STILL sucks! I've already complained earlier how the deflector by default has TRIBBLE-poor Flow Caps. But even more, this set is so all over the place that it does nothing even passable outside of the Transphasic Projectile bonus.
Then you have the Set FOUR (that's an expensive investment of components, BTW) Bonus of an EWP-like ability. Which needs Starship Particle Generator Skill to be effective. Even if you did stuff in the Breen Console Set (Breen Ships only BTW), that too grants NO Particle Generator Skill. Oh, and BTW, yes, the 2 piece console set bonus grants Flow Caps. But the bonus is worth ONE Flow Capacitor Console and not worth the 2 slots required for the console set...
Everything about Breen Space & Console Sets suck. They don't reinforce each other in meaningful ways. It tries to do a lot of things but it all SUCKS. There is just no synergy at all with the set's stats and bonus. It's like 20 different elementary school kids designed it to have "lots of cool abilities" but in reality, is so spread out that it does nothing decently.
there would have to be a seriously mega amount of reduction in the upgrading cost for me to consider upgrading any more in the future and even then it would be a long while before i would even contemplate upgrading this set.
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maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
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Um...I lol'd. I know it's rude and all, but I lol'd all the same.
Something that has a lower cost to start (free) and has a lower cost to upgrade (yes, different sets have different upgrade costs based on their source) should be comparable to items with an actual cost to start and a higher cost to upgrade? So yeah, I lol'd...rude as it may be, I lol'd.
Now on the other hand, if one were to bring up that the Breen set never got the "Jem" boost - and thus the Breen set appears to be a mod behind all the other sets of that classification, well then most obviously the Breen set is behind the Jem and Solanae sets. It needs to be brought up to their levels.
But to suggest that those sets need to be at the same level as the others, when again taking into account their initial "cost" and the reduced cost to upgrade is just silly.
But yeah, compare the Breen to the Jem and Sol...and you can't help but see that each piece appears to be missing some form of "mod" - and thus - the Breen set is lackluster by comparison to those of the same classification...needing a buff in that fashion.
Can anyone else confirm or deny this.
Everything I have seen to this point (various lists/comments) suggests this core gets [Trans] (same with the Obelisk core)
...#LLAP...
On the other hand, having a few "budget" sets with interesting optics is also of some value, I guess.
There are different types of gear with different upgrade costs - not all gear is available at every classification.
You've got Rep consoles, Lobi consoles, Fleet consoles, normal consoles - etc, etc, etc. Same with weapons, etc, etc, etc. You've got Rep Deflectors, Fleet, normal, etc, etc, etc.
Rep gear costs a Hell of a lot more to upgrade than Fleet gear...as far as the TP requirements go. For some reason though, the Mission gear costs more than Fleet gear too...doesn't make sense, imho. But that's a side issue just pointing to some overall inconsistency, eh?
Mission gear has a low starting cost...it's "free" - it's a mission.
Rep gear can have a high starting cost...you've got the Marks, the Dil, needing to have unlocked a certain tier, you may need special items.
Then you have the lower cost to upgrade the Mission gear compared to the Rep gear.
So that's why I can't see why anybody would expect the G14 Breen to be comparable to say G14 MACO. It's like expecting the Pinto to be comparable to the Mustang.
On the other hand, again imho, the G14 Breen should be comparable to the other G14 Mission reward sets, no? Hell, the VR12 Breen should be comparable to the other VR12 Mission reward sets, right? I don't believe it is. It never received the "upgrade" that the Jem did nor what the Sol came with from the start.
So while I'd never try to make the comparison between the G14 Breen and G14 MACO, I'm sitting there looking at the G14 Breen and G14 Jem/Sol and saying, "Hey, Cryptic..."