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hatchetl4dhatchetl4d Member Posts: 130 Arc User
Replace the project leader with someone who thinks about consequences before acting. My fleet is down to 25% activity and my friends list as well. Save this game so I can happily open my wallet again!
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    nxmikenxmike Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    hatchetl4d wrote: »
    Replace the project leader with someone who thinks about consequences before acting. My fleet is down to 25% activity and my friends list as well. Save this game so I can happily open my wallet again!

    You are going to have to go way higher up the chain.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    inb4 the lock :)
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    iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm personally a fan of, "Make better decisions."

    But different strokes...
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    sitheachsitheach Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    alaric63 wrote: »
    Complete nonsense.


    have you read the reviews on steam?

    hahaha nonsense huh
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    carcharodon1975carcharodon1975 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    sitheach wrote: »
    have you read the reviews on steam?

    hahaha nonsense huh

    I did...the negative reviews far outweigh the positive ones,and the two most mentioned negative aspects of the game...game breaking bugs and the heavy monetization of the game with Delta Rising.Calling Star Trek Online 'free to play' is considered a bad joke in even worse taste.
    The PWE/Cryptic sweatshop...not where the game is made,but where the game is played!

    Take back your home,end the grind!


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    bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I honestly think its more of an issue of group think, just shift the employees around a bit between their other games.


    Of course, im willing to take Dan Stahl back if he can promise us 100 things and deliver 20 of them. :D
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    ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited November 2014
    I now have complete confidence in the management of Star Trek Online.

    They set out to thin the player base, and improve sales. Apparently they've had a resounding success.

    If it makes for better content, and the ability to explore strange new worlds, I'm all for it.
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    i wrote one of the reviews on steam, one of those reviewers responded mid point of this year just to give me a misguided attempt at tell me what my review was about, i didnt bite and deleted the rather silly comment. it wasnt the first fanboy either to try it, apparently within a few days got marked down more then one should. so yeah, dont trust steam for a fair review.

    as for the team leader of the development team, geko. he does as he is told and goes out to do it and then gets paid for it. but the op is attacking the wrong person for change, because essentially it would be like blaming the gun for firing when really its the person who loaded it up and pressed the trigger in the first place.
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    When I'm in agreement with Harvey, you know the OP is wrong
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm voting for Kurland to take over! =3

    If he can run a space station with no problems and no hostile invasions, then Kurlands our man! Or Tovan. :P

    Kurland here, this is Kurland! :D
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    as for the team leader of the development team, geko. he does as he is told and goes out to do it and then gets paid for it. but the op is attacking the wrong person for change, because essentially it would be like blaming the gun for firing when really its the person who loaded it up and pressed the trigger in the first place.

    I am pretty sure Geko is calling the shots when it comes to STO.

    Comments from other devs clearly indicate, that if Geko says no, it's a no, regardless of what everyone else thinks.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    I am pretty sure Geko is calling the shots when it comes to STO.

    Comments from other devs clearly indicate, that if Geko says no, it's a no, regardless of what everyone else thinks.

    dunno what the organisation tree is like in cryptic for sto, d'angelo is the EP its his position and neck as to what comes. i doubt geko has free reign without control. it would be like giving a civil servant free use of the company bank balance without oversight.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    dunno what the organisation tree is like in cryptic for sto, d'angelo is the EP its his position and neck as to what comes. i doubt geko has free reign without control. it would be like giving a civil servant free use of the company bank balance without oversight.

    It's pretty clear, to me at least, that D'Angelo is EP only of name... A figure to keep the fact from the players that Geko, a person who has insulted players as a group on several occasions, was given control.
    Geko couldn't hit the Enterprise J, while in space dock, unpowered and unmaned, on a Tuesday with any of his shots.

    Well I can't speak to that... He did bring us "Dinozaurs with fricking lazors", and I still think that zone is one of the more enjoyable zones. But other things...
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    It's pretty clear, to me at least, that D'Angelo is EP only of name... A figure to keep the fact from the players that Geko, a person who has insulted players as a group on several occasions, was given control.

    and there it is, an assumption. can you confirm that? :P
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    and there it is, an assumption. can you confirm that? :P

    Yes, I can confirm that it is clear to me... In fact, it says so right up there in the comment you quoted.

    Obviously it's a theory (not an assumption as you falsely put it) on my part. It just strikes me, that when direct ideas for wanted species are presented, canon species even, or other ideas, other devs reply "I/we would like that, but Geko said no".

    I won't list the names (don't want a repeat of the Borticus incident on the lockboxes), but a proper search should strengthen my argument.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Yes, I can confirm that it is clear to me... In fact, it says so right up there in the comment you quoted.

    Obviously it's a theory (not an assumption as you falsely put it) on my part. It just strikes me, that when direct ideas for wanted species are presented, canon species even, or other ideas, other devs reply "I/we would like that, but Geko said no".

    I won't list the names (don't want a repeat of the Borticus incident on the lockboxes), but a proper search should strengthen my argument.

    then im open to you finding enough to prove it. takes a bit more then "should" and "clear to me".
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    then im open to you finding enough to prove it. takes a bit more then "should" and "clear to me".

    So you were given the tools to finding said elements, but aren't willing to research? Instead trying to lure me into putting devs in akward, even problematic positions?

    That isn't going to happen... I tend to like one or two of the dev's in question... It's up there in my previous post, but I am not going to write it down for them to trace.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    So you were given the tools to finding said elements, but aren't willing to research? Instead trying to lure me into putting devs in akward, even problematic positions?

    i figured that would be the response. but you dug that hole and im not filling it for you. i asked you to prove if geko is the one in charge or hes just another team member, so far you havent proven anything yet... so when you get around to it, let me know.
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    then im open to you finding enough to prove it. takes a bit more then "should" and "clear to me".

    I think it is reasonable to suggest that as lead developer, all team leads report to Geko and Geko reports to D'Angelo.

    It is also reasonable to suggest that D'Angelo isn't as hands on an EP as Stahl was because that was Stahl's only job and D'Angelo still doubles as Chief Technology Officer.

    I'll go with what their LinkedIn pages say:

    D'Angelo:
    Chief Technology Officer from March 2010 to present. Has responsibility for all software work at Cryptic spanning Neverwinter, Star Trek Online, Champions Online, plus the core engine and new games in development. Also responsible for IT and operational support of the live online games.

    Works as one of three C-level officers to steer the business. Gives management training to employees and works to shape the Cryptic corporate culture to be one that is healthy and productive.

    Executive Producer for Star Trek Online from Dec 2013 to Present. Has responsibility for game business planning, development, and overall leadership of this highly successful MMORPG title. Was also EP from Aug 2011 to Feb 2012 to manage the successful transition of the game from a subscription to free-to-play business model.

    Geko:
    Seasoned Lead Game Designer with over 15 years of Game Development experience and 5 Shipped MMOs

    Over 12 years of MMO Game team management, leadership, team building and training

    MMO specialist. Principal System Designer with an expertise in game architecture, implementation, and tuning of MMO combat mechanics, game systems, and game assets

    Experience strategizing and architecting Free-to-Play (F2P) and Micro-Transaction models for MMO titles.

    Accomplished Designer, Producer, and manager with strong analytical, technical, and mathematic skills

    Specialties: Design and Design Management, tuning, balancing Massively Multiplayer Online Game combat systems, assets (items, powers, NPCs, spells), character development, and related systems. Free-to-Play (F2P).

    As CTO, D'Angelo is "one of three C-level" execs, alongside Jack Emmert (CEO) and Craig Zinkievich (COO).

    Considering Cryptic's manpower shortage during the Atari divestment and prior to launch, it seems unlikely they wouldn't have had a CEO, COO, or CTO double as Executive Producer. However, when Zinkievich was EP, Cryptic still had 3 C-level execs and Zinc was NOT yet an exec. During the Atari divestment, they kept Stahl on as EP.

    I am not going to suggest that D'Angelo doesn't have any managerial oversight.

    What I am going to suggest is that a considerable part of what was once the EP function has been handed to Geko as Lead Developer and that D'Angelo occupies a reduced version of the role or he could not maintain a second job within the company.
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I think it is reasonable to suggest that as lead developer, all team leads report to Geko and Geko reports to D'Angelo.

    It is also reasonable to suggest that D'Angelo isn't as hands on an EP as Stahl was because that was Stahl's only job and D'Angelo still doubles as Chief Technology Officer.

    I'll go with what their LinkedIn pages say:

    D'Angelo:



    Geko:



    As CTO, D'Angelo is "one of three C-level" execs, alongside Jack Emmert (CEO) and Craig Zinkievich (COO).

    Considering Cryptic's manpower shortage during the Atari divestment and prior to launch, it seems unlikely they wouldn't have had a CEO, COO, or CTO double as Executive Producer. However, when Zinkievich was EP, Cryptic still had 3 C-level execs and Zinc was NOT yet an exec. During the Atari divestment, they kept Stahl on as EP.

    I am not going to suggest that D'Angelo doesn't have any managerial oversight.

    What I am going to suggest is that a considerable part of what was once the EP function has been handed to Geko as Lead Developer and that D'Angelo occupies a reduced version of the role or he could not maintain a second job within the company.

    that helps as far as proving me wrong is concerned, there you go i stand corrected but its still not 100% conclusive though but i will take it.
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    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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    jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm in the can Geko department. DR was a major downgrade for the playerbase. They no longer think of making whats fun, its become "How can we stretch the grind, how can we bleed the players wallets."

    Sad thing is if you make a fun engaging game people will naturally spend money on it, because they enjoy it. Players are dropping like flies, my guess if so many are leaving its because they don't enjoy what DR did or they cant afford the insane costs put on things.

    Constant nerfs coupled with very little content added for an "expansion", thrown together with massive resource costs on upgrading gear has turned people away.

    The people in charge need to own up to their bad choices and say, "Ok we f*cked up we are going to fix it." Instead they have chosen to keep throwing nerfs at people left right and center and claim its the best expansion ever.


    Cryptic = Blind and deluded to their own games problems.
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    biersteinbierstein Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Why would you want them to mess with the Tholian mission? It's one of the few in a good place IMO.
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    sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2014
    I'm in agreement with the op. Something needs to change and soon. Because the fiasco surrounding delta rising was nothing short of a disaster and the attempts at the preceding damage control have only served to compound the issues. I think one of the highest ranking reviews on steam was written by the second in command of my fleet. And this coming from a person that will always try and find the best in something. But if he felt the need to wrote such a scathing review then I think that says I all given the way the game has gone and is still heading. Now there is still time to avert disaster but something has got to give. Cryptic won't even admit they've messed up in instances where it's blatantly obvious they have. They just try to cover there tracks with little more than smoke and mirrors or try to divert people's attention to something else. I'm looking forward to priority ones 200th episode with Geko. And hopefully they'll have the ball to ask some direct questions about what has happened for what what reason and what cryptic are planning on doing to correct it and bring back the players they've lost.
    Oh, it's not broken? We can soon fix that!

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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    jtoney3448 wrote: »
    I'm in the can Geko department. DR was a major downgrade for the playerbase. They no longer think of making whats fun, its become "How can we stretch the grind, how can we bleed the players wallets."

    I'm in the "trade Geko for Stahl" department.

    I think Geko's skills lend themselves well to an in-development game and less well to an ongoing service that has to be managed through community interaction, which requires more of a golden tongue. I think Geko is an asset but he's an asset that should be managed more carefully. I also think he tends to get entrenched and should probably be rotated between projects more. Keep him on in-development games and swap him out when they go live.

    Meanwhile, I don't think we have ever seen what Stahl would be capable of with actual resources backing up his vision. Much of his initial tenure was marked by a divestment when Cryptic had less than 20 employees on STO and heavy furloughs. He made big promises but his promises didn't have the resources to back them up.

    We need somebody who has big vision and a talent for communicating now that the resources are in place.

    I don't want anybody to go hungry. I'm not about firing people if it can be avoided. I am about utilizing people effectively. My biggest concern would be that Geko would resist this.
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    glorthoxglorthox Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    There is no incentive to the game no more. It used to be, getting gear per reputation that would help in you in missions and stf's. Now there is none. Upgrading feels like another cash cow or refined dilithium waiting game. There is nothing to strive for once the delta rep is done.
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    taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    I'm personally a fan of, "Make better decisions."

    But different strokes...

    I always picture you look like you signature pic Iconians :D
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    crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,821 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hatchetl4d wrote: »
    Replace the project leader with someone who thinks about consequences before acting. My fleet is down to 25% activity and my friends list as well. Save this game so I can happily open my wallet again!

    Welcome to the new NORM. Same goes for 2 of my fleets as well. As per Cryptic...nothing to see here :D
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