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zuse1970
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Out of curriosity whats the opinions out there for what the best federation carriers out there maybe a #1 #2 #3 ect. For a federation tactical officer.
I've been saving thinking of a jem'hadar carrier but I guess before I get to far I thought that I'd get some opinions from others.
Never played a carrier before but they look like they would be a different change from my escort.
Anyway thanks.
I've been saving thinking of a jem'hadar carrier but I guess before I get to far I thought that I'd get some opinions from others.
Never played a carrier before but they look like they would be a different change from my escort.
Anyway thanks.
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Its an Escort and Carrier in one. I love it on my Tac.
If you trick it out as Photontorpedoboat (With the Torpedo Point Defense) it can be top notch.
I run it as AOE torpedo build. Its not so effective against single targets but when you attack larger groups with it (even better if someone pins them down with a Gravitiy Well) I accomplish insta-wipes with my Torpedospread III.
Currently my Fleet Photons with the Spire Consoles sport 1090 DPS each (from the tooltip & unbuffed)
So yeah others than that theres only the Atrox Carrier that you could consider "Federation"
All other stuff around is not so Federation
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But that cat carrier is pretty TRIBBLE tbh, doesn't even come with it's own frigates.
I am still far away from getting Elite Yellowstone Runabouts, but when I do, I could imagine they will be very nasty on the Akira
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I know the upcoming winter reward has not yet been officially announced, but the signs are there that it will be a playable Sarr Theln.
There are not many carriers to choose from on the federation side since the Klingons are the ones with the best carriers.
There's the Atrox with the stalker fighters, but i have seen few lyrical posts about this ship.
There are the Vesta, Galaxy-X and Heavy Escort Carrier which are a science vessel, cruiser and escort with a single hangar.
Then there's the Obelisk, Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier and Xindi-Aquatic Narcine Dreadnought Carrier and Tholian Recluse.
The Xindi vessel is at this moment probably the most powerful carrier available to federation players and it has a tactical focus which should suit your character well.
Yet, personally i would wait and get the winter event ship.
care to linky please?
But this thing is mostly a science and support ship, not a tactical or engi /tank ship.
Other than this there is the Armitage escort carrier. And to be honest when you got top tier equipment and build there is no significant difference if you use a pure escort or this escort carrier. The pets ar just a gimmik.
There are currently 2 tactical carrier in Game.
Jem Dread and Xindi Aquatic Dread.
Since the Xindi are full members of the federation one would think a xindi ship should be federation like the Catian Atrox.
It will probably be a playable version of this: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Sarr_Theln_Warship
There have been recent changes to Bleth Choas Fighters and why would the developers do that if they are not scheduled to come to the game.
Yet, the hard confirmation i.e. a blog posting has yet to arrive.
I'd say get the Winter Event Carrier and see if it's a style you like. If you do save up for the Narcine or the Jem Hadar. Narcine is way cheaper though as you don't need 500M to get the Jem Hadar Bug frigates.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
From the lockbox/lobi faction of ships, the Recluse is I believe one of the most popular ones. Not sure what builds people use, but I hear a lot about Attack Pattern Beta stacking, which suggests that it's used with a Tactical Commander.
And rumour is that the Winter Event will bring us a Breen Carrier [Tier 6]. (The rumour is based on the fact that the Breen univeral consoles now list a Tier 6 Breen Carrier as potential user of the console, which means its a pretty well-founded rumour for a change.), so you may want to hold your Zen and Dilithium for a while (at least until the stats are announced).
The Jupiter Dreadnought is actually not a carrier. At least it never behaved like one - no fighter pets or anything. Not sure what it was supposed to be. Looks-wise, it certainly would have made sense to make it a Carrier.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Typhon
There's some evidence that the winter ship will be a breen t6 carrier:
1) breen fighters were listed among the fighter pets nerfed.
2) the breen set from the Chel Grett and Plesh Brek on holodeck now show an addition to the set with a t6 ship.
Off course this doesn't confirm w.o. a shred out doubt that a T6 Breen carrier will be the winter reward. It may be a future lockbox or lobi store item.
Given the history of the winter events though I'd say there's a strong possibility.
The Typhon is from Activision's Star Trek: Invasion and unlikely to be appearing in STO ever. Although I agree. A proper carrier for the federation. The Valkyries are excellent fighters too...
But then again. Wont happen ever.
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simple answer the best carrier for all factions by far isn't here yet but it will be when the Christmas event launches.
see this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L93wP9Fxm0
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
No, not that Typhoon. Also not the one formerly called J
A fully remodeled Typhoon as a dual-hangar flight deck cruiser is something I'd love to see, however. A big ship with that basic silhouette but done in the Pathfinder-esque style.
The Akira is a good option if you want an escort with the variable of different hanger slots. You could slot fighters, (my choice), shuttles, runabouts, or repair ships. That utility adds a bit more power to an already powerful ship. I fit mine with the Counter-Command sets, as well as bio-phasers and dual bio-torpedoes (one from the set, of course) to give it an edge against the Undine. It's my go-to ship when fighting them.
My Narcine is more of an all-around damage dealer, using Xindi phasers and quantum torpedoes. The frigates are extremely useful against most enemies, laying down minefields that can surround entire groups of ships, and weakening them at the same time with their cascade ability. I send them out and support them with long range fire, while healing them with my science and engineering abilities. When you're in a tight spot, the Narcine can be quite a tank, as long as you have good resistance consoles and healing abilities. It's my main ship in most situations.
Bleth Choas is mentioned in Geko's List of Affected Hangar and Separation pets for the upcoming hangar pet changes. Also, the Breen Sarr Thein Carrier [T6] is listed in the ship requirement list for the current Breen consoles. Will have to check if this is on Holodeck or not. So no official confirmation, but it is pretty much confirmed that the Sarr Thein will be the next Winter Event ship and Tier 6.
the best federation own carrier? they dont have one.
the best foreign allied carrier and only one the feds have? that blue male thing, the atrox.
apart from that the feds dont have carriers of their own. and escorts and cruisers may have a flight deck but that doesnt make them in a league to be called a carrier.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
oh this.
I have a torpedo layout and with its console its a rain of orange death with photons.
I would however recommend admiralcarter you replace one of your torpedos with the dyson one, its still a photon and the extra GW is a bonus.
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I don't have experience with the Narcine.
that said, the most tactically oriented carrier IS the Jemnaught. the best overall carrier is the Recluse. the worst of the three is the Atrox.
the Atrox is a sci ship with hangars, and doesn't have the mobility that a sci ship needs.
the jemnaught has the fourth weapon slot forward and the tactical boff layout. it can wade into the fight, kick but and take names by itself, where a carrier should be standing off, sending pets in to do the dirty work. that's where the Recluse comes to the front.. and unless you are rich enough to jabe the bug, you don't get the frigate pets a carrier deserves.
She turns well fro a carrier. her frigate class pets are probably the best in the game. that, combined with the ability to change roles on demand make the Recluse an extremely flexible ship to own, but she is best standing off, sending in the pets and using science powers for crowd control, and if the group needs more punch the switch to tac is right there.
if you are focusing on on lockbox ships, the buy one, try it out on tribble, sell it buy the other ones try em on tribble and then decide
You could wait until the winter event carrier but i dont think they are going to make it into a tac carrier. I'm guessing that they will gimp it in some way so that it isnt superior to the JHDC or Narcine.
I was actually trying to decide between the JHDC and Narcine myself about 2 weeks ago and eventually i settled on the Narcine. My main reason for that was the frigate pets for the JHDC is only available if you first get the JHAS lockbox ship which if you look on the exchange are going for 400-500mil EC. IIRC to even be able to use the advanced JHAS hangar pet from the dil store or the elite JHAS hangar pet from fleet you need to buy and unpack the JHAS lockbox ship.
So anyways i went with the Narcine and it moves and turns pretty well for a carrier. I have Tachyonic console and two fleet engineering consoles but only one of them is 20% +turn. I use beam arrays but i could probably get away with using DHC if i wanted to. But i just think that the tac seating is better suited for beam arrays or DBB. I prefer the Narcine over my Kitty carrier and Obelisk (kitty carrier on my other toon). This one is a Romulan and i actually prefer the Narcine over my Scim too. Doesnt matter to me if the Scim can do a tiny bit more dps, but the Narcine is just a lot of fun.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=20692551&postcount=1
Thats my Narcine build...you could do close to the same thing in a JHDC but you'll be a tiny bit slower. Your science boff abilities will also be limited to probably just hazard emitters with the JHDC. If i had gotten the JHDC instead that means i would have no science team for shield healing or science cleansing. It also means i would not have been able to run two EPTW and i would have kept an EPTS for some very minor shield healing. Depending on your playstyle that might not be enough shield healing so you may have to rely on stuff like consoles or special doffs to help with healing. And in exchange i would have been able to run an extra tac team and bfaw2 instead of bfaw1. Now if you are a fed that means you have access to the Reciprocity ship trait. You could build a Narcine with that trait in mind and make the Narcine boff layout slightly more favorable then the JHDC boff layout. But thats only if you can maximize the effect of Reciprocity.
Note that the Plesh Brek is on Geko's list as well. More weight to the Sarr Thein rumors, and pretty much confirmation that it will have frigate pets as well. All we really need to know is the how of it, the if and when are pretty much guaranteed at this point.
Thanks a million guys. I guess I'll save up and wait for the winter event and see what happens.
Again thanks alot guys great community.
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