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Enough with the t6 fed ships already

wardcaliswardcalis Member Posts: 1,127 Arc User
Romulan and klingon only have 2 and now federation has 6, this is getting ridiculous.
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    medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Maybe if more people consistently played as factions other than Fed, they would bother but their measuring system shows it is not worth it...

    Legacy of Romulus time is over... and even DR is over... time for the new hotness

    MORE FED SHINY SHIPS to blueball the other factions
    Deep Space Nine in HD, make it so!
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    cannydogcannydog Member Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I totally agree Wardcalis! And only one of the Klingon and Romulan ships is a true 'Intel' ship.

    Now I know they like to justify this by always saying more players are Fed. But it really doesn't convince me at all. Then again those 'Fed Intel' ships are so freaking ugly... Perhaps Klingon and Romulan players should be happy that they at least got ships that look right. :P
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,400 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Maybe if more people consistently played as factions other than Fed, they would bother but their measuring system shows it is not worth it...

    Legacy of Romulus time is over... and even DR is over... time for the new hotness

    MORE FED SHINY SHIPS to blueball the other factions
    But since there are fewer ships, people plays as the non-feds less, which causes a lack of new ships, which causes fewer people to play the non-feds, etc...
    #TASforSTO
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    atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Seriously... 'Double-U Tee Eff' cryptic? LOL. Do you guys know that other factions are in the game? I guess you guys tend to forget very, very often, or you hate my money... That's it you truly hate my money... It's all good. It's going to Star Citizen anyway...

    Feel free to change the direction of my money... It's still time. Lot's of money just sitting here, but KDF gets jack [Beeep!]... Nothing to buy.
    The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    eventually. Before they even think about adding ships for anyone else, they need a new galaxy 500 T6 and a constipation class t6, as well as putting in a relaxing tree and plant sitting area on ESD, and maybe working bathrooms with high tec transporter toilets that beam your business into the sun. After those critical updates, and a fix to the fix for the fix to XP problems, they might think about adding another ship for others.
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    ragnar0xragnar0x Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yes more FED T6 ships .. KDF and ROM are like 1% of overall players so its a waste of time making romulan T6 ships. FED make money.
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    kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The Romulans stole the Prometheus and the Klingons were always boarding ships...why not just the other factions "steal" Federation ships and use them?
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    atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ragnar0x wrote: »
    Yes more FED T6 ships .. KDF and ROM are like 1% of overall players so its a waste of time making romulan T6 ships. FED make money.

    "Yeah TRIBBLE all of my other children, I love 'Syla' only. She gives me money. Them other loser kids can just get lost. I don't love them... I wish I never made them". :rolleyes:.
    See how stupid that sounds? Is the IQ high enough to see how stupid that sounds?

    ...Why have factions then if you're gonna just support one? Why they wasted time creating them just to shaft them?
    The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    tasilatasila Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I do agree we all knew that the T-6 Intrepid would join but i didnt thought so early. The Romulan and Kling Ships are nice but there is missing, The counterparts of Federation Intel- Cruisers Escorts Science Ships. Romulans well never will get a True Science Warbird except for the Hanom Klings well also have the Varanus witch is no Klingon Design. But there at least Should be Escorts/Cruisers/Warbirds witch can have Lt Com- Science(Cruisers-/Escort- Line/Tac(Cruiser-/Science Vessel Line)/Eng(Escort- /Science Vessel Line)

    Romulans and Kling may never get true Science Vessels but at least there should be Ships u can chose witch have as Sub Counter part Always Eng/Sci Hybrid Lt com Setting.

    And T5-U Ships got Obsolete in my Opinnion Except for some Op Ships Like The Scimitar. 13th Boff Seating make most T-6 Superior.
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    norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    atlantra wrote: »
    "Yeah TRIBBLE all of my other children, I love 'Syla' only. She gives me money. Them other loser kids can just get lost. I don't love them... I wish I never made them". :rolleyes:.
    See how stupid that sounds? Is the IQ high enough to see how stupid that sounds?

    ...Why have factions then if you're gonna just support one? Why they wasted time creating them just to shaft them?

    You can't argue with it. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. 1%... lol... go count the scimitars at any given time and get back to me on that. Math is hard. Outside of ESD parking lot, which no rom would ever visit, the claim is that you can count 99 fed ships for ever 1 rom or kdf. Try that and tell me it is true? lol.... not even close. I see a rom ship or a kdf ship in nearly every PUG.
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    phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    atlantra wrote: »
    "Yeah TRIBBLE all of my other children, I love 'Syla' only. She gives me money. Them other loser kids can just get lost. I don't love them... I wish I never made them". :rolleyes:.
    See how stupid that sounds? Is the IQ high enough to see how stupid that sounds?

    ...Why have factions then if you're gonna just support one? Why they wasted time creating them just to shaft them?

    100% correct this, Cryptic launched with 2 factions, now has 3 (well 1 soft faction so to speak) thus they need to properly support them. Obviously more people would play Federation since Star Trek is virtually always about the Federation, good thing DS9 sometimes deviated from that, it was refreshing to see more of the Klingons there.

    I do wish there would be more T6 ships for the KDF and ROM, but I keep the hope up that they'll get a few extra ships with the next "line" of specialized ships, maybe instead of the current Intel theme they'll have... Marauder type ships? Who knows? Can only hope, right?
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    jon1764jon1764 Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I am happy with the number of ships that Federation and Romulans have access to. I prefer to fly canon ships so that may be the reason why. I focus more on the actual look of the ship over the layout.

    To be fair, I don't fly T6 ships. I stick to T5 and they are more than adequate. I have no need to get T5U or T6. Also, the Federation playerbase is much larger, so they focus more on them.
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    zionlythzionlyth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It's one thing that feds have more t6 ships, it was expected to begin with, but...

    Why the heck did they feel the need to add a 3rd t6 science ship, with little to no difference from the others is gameplay, before the other 2 factions even got a 3rd one?

    I don't even play KDF and I'm mad.
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    drasymdrasym Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    PWE understands one thing and one thing only. Money

    Make an impassioned argument. No response.
    Argue for fairness and balance. Silence.
    Demand attention. Nothing


    You want their attention? Cost them money.. OH I don't mean the few that swear they will never spend money on the game again. If they lose a few customers, so what (in their view). Until large numbers of players are not spending money on these new FED ships they will keep it up. (cruise the galaxy and count T6 Intrepids if you doubt they are selling)

    Until you can somehow convince them that they can make MORE money selling a rom or KDF ship, you will see more FED ships. NO not some money, NOT almost as much.. MORE. Developement costs money, PWE corporate only cares about profit. IF they can make a FED ship for the same cost as a KDF or ROM.. and the FED will sell more units.. They will make a FED ship.

    Fairness and equality are not on their profit/loss sheets and never will be.

    Just my $0.02
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    helgmornhelgmorn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    drasym wrote: »
    PWE understands one thing and one thing only. Money

    Make an impassioned argument. No response.
    Argue for fairness and balance. Silence.
    Demand attention. Nothing


    You want their attention? Cost them money.. OH I don't mean the few that swear they will never spend money on the game again. If they lose a few customers, so what (in their view). Until large numbers of players are not spending money on these new FED ships they will keep it up. (cruise the galaxy and count T6 Intrepids if you doubt they are selling)

    Until you can somehow convince them that they can make MORE money selling a rom or KDF ship, you will see more FED ships. NO not some money, NOT almost as much.. MORE. Developement costs money, PWE corporate only cares about profit. IF they can make a FED ship for the same cost as a KDF or ROM.. and the FED will sell more units.. They will make a FED ship.

    Fairness and equality are not on their profit/loss sheets and never will be.

    Just my $0.02

    What I get from this is that you don't want them to make money, am I correct ?

    God help the game from continuing if they make no money!

    I bought, or better yet my wife bought the DR pack for me for my B'day, loving it. Refused point blank at first as i did not like the Fed ships looks, but with the skins they are much better looking now.

    Yes feds have more ships, yes Rom and Klink miss a Sci Ship like intrepid, but they have some awesome ships, the two T6 ships for each are by far better than the 6 T6 ships released for the Feds.

    I cant complain about this, and I can always play the T5U ships I have upgraded such as my Fleet Karfi and Free Dyson Ship at T5u, oh and the Free Varanus which is awesome.

    Talking T6 ships, they are in no way a level above most T5U ships, I have them all, and honestly, I am literally just as competitive in my T5U as the T6 ( Yes fleet T6 will probably push this out, but its not here yet)

    Example, my Tact Oddey upgraded is by far DPS stronger and Hull stronger than both T^ Cruisers.

    Only ships I dont fly, lockbox, because I cant be bothered with the low odds of getting one and spend my EC elsewhere!
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    illyrian2008illyrian2008 Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    phalanx01 wrote: »
    100% correct this, Cryptic launched with 2 factions, now has 3 (well 1 soft faction so to speak) thus they need to properly support them. Obviously more people would play Federation since Star Trek is virtually always about the Federation, good thing DS9 sometimes deviated from that, it was refreshing to see more of the Klingons there.

    I do wish there would be more T6 ships for the KDF and ROM, but I keep the hope up that they'll get a few extra ships with the next "line" of specialized ships, maybe instead of the current Intel theme they'll have... Marauder type ships? Who knows? Can only hope, right?

    Would be nice but don't hold your breath, they are fleecing the largest segment of the population.

    It's the easiest thing to do.
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    bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ITs a catch-22


    Cryptic wants to make money, cant fault them there, so they spend their energy into producing what they know will make them money, fed stuff, WHY? because that's where the players are at.

    They have stated several times that if more kdf played kdf they would produce more for the kdf...

    thus your 22 situation. People don't want to play KDF or ROM because nothing is produced for them, so they go back to fed, because fed gets the shiny.

    So lower numbers with non Fed faction/fractions negating the idea to make stuff for them.
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    pherraspherras Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I just got fed up finally and switched to my Fed alt which is now my main . The thing I finally realized is this will be the norm for future expansions.
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    helgmornhelgmorn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Would be nice but don't hold your breath, they are fleecing the largest segment of the population.

    It's the easiest thing to do.

    How exactly are they Fleecing the largest population?

    Please do explain what you mean here, last time I looked, they were giving you exactly what you purchase.

    I I buy and Oddey bundle, i get the Oddey bundle, If I buy the DR Pack I get everything in it as advertised.

    I see no fleecing here, and you literally do not HAVE to buy a single thing to enjoy literally every single piece of content in STO for FREE!
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    drasymdrasym Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    helgmorn wrote: »
    What I get from this is that you don't want them to make money, am I correct ?

    God help the game from continuing if they make no money!

    I bought, or better yet my wife bought the DR pack for me for my B'day, loving it. Refused point blank at first as i did not like the Fed ships looks, but with the skins they are much better looking now.

    Yes feds have more ships, yes Rom and Klink miss a Sci Ship like intrepid, but they have some awesome ships, the two T6 ships for each are by far better than the 6 T6 ships released for the Feds.

    I cant complain about this, and I can always play the T5U ships I have upgraded such as my Fleet Karfi and Free Dyson Ship at T5u, oh and the Free Varanus which is awesome.

    Talking T6 ships, they are in no way a level above most T5U ships, I have them all, and honestly, I am literally just as competitive in my T5U as the T6 ( Yes fleet T6 will probably push this out, but its not here yet)

    Example, my Tact Oddey upgraded is by far DPS stronger and Hull stronger than both T^ Cruisers.

    Only ships I dont fly, lockbox, because I cant be bothered with the low odds of getting one and spend my EC elsewhere!

    You are horrendously completely incorrect. Try reading my statment again. OR let me boil it down to really really simple:

    FED ships make more money for PWE
    PWE wants to make money
    So they make FED ships.


    WAS it really that hard to follow?
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    n00b1001n00b1001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    What's comes in mind, when you think about Romulans ? Rather sooner than later, the Tal Shiar drops in and that is the point, where I don't understand the game. Maybe the Federation has more players, but come on, we are talking Star Trek here. If someone should have Intel superiority, it's the Romulans, the Klingons are good at war and the Fed are scientists. At least that's my Star Trek impression. Well, not so much in this game.
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    zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    atlantra wrote: »
    "Yeah TRIBBLE all of my other children, I love 'Syla' only. She gives me money. Them other loser kids can just get lost. I don't love them... I wish I never made them". :rolleyes:.
    See how stupid that sounds? Is the IQ high enough to see how stupid that sounds?

    ...Why have factions then if you're gonna just support one? Why they wasted time creating them just to shaft them?

    The KDF has been asking that question for a long time.
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    illyrian2008illyrian2008 Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    helgmorn wrote: »
    How exactly are they Fleecing the largest population?

    Please do explain what you mean here, last time I looked, they were giving you exactly what you purchase.

    I I buy and Oddey bundle, i get the Oddey bundle, If I buy the DR Pack I get everything in it as advertised.

    I see no fleecing here, and you literally do not HAVE to buy a single thing to enjoy literally every single piece of content in STO for FREE!

    Oh goodie, another one of the cheerleaders shuffling her pom-poms.

    Yes, if I sold you a piece of petrified dog dropping in a bag claiming it's great fun, you got exactly what you paid for, not my fault you don't find it fun.

    You don't have to buy anything, just grind your eyes out for a year or two, it's FREE!

    Would you like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick? It's FREE!
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    helgmornhelgmorn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    drasym wrote: »
    You are horrendously completely incorrect. Try reading my statment again. OR let me boil it down to really really simple:

    FED ships make more money for PWE
    PWE wants to make money
    So they make FED ships.


    WAS it really that hard to follow?

    Well I stand corrected. You have hit the nail on the head!

    There is more demand for FED ships, so Cryptic make more FED Ships!

    I see where I went completely and totally wrong....OH Wait, in my post I typed....

    "Yes feds have more ships,"

    Oops looks like I knew that already!

    Cryptic of course are going to make more ships for the most popular faction, because it earns better income on time investment!

    Do we need to fund a three year study into this to confirm 101 economics?

    As a Mult-toon player across all factions, SO WHAT! I still have an awesome choice of ships across all toons!
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    norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    drasym wrote: »
    You are horrendously completely incorrect. Try reading my statment again. OR let me boil it down to really really simple:

    FED ships make more money for PWE
    PWE wants to make money
    So they make FED ships.


    WAS it really that hard to follow?

    it is not hard to follow. But is is only 1/2 the story.

    pwe wants money.
    obviously due to outcry here, ppl want kdf and rom ships.
    I even offered to take a re-skinned graphical model with t6 stats so adding a ship should take like 1 person 1 day to do.
    1 person, 1 day of work. Hundreds, maybe thousands of buyers. Much profit made.

    Or they could make yet another fed ship, I guess. But I do note that a lot of feds often get up in arms over the cosmetics of ships. Most of the rest of us would probably take a cardboard box at this point.
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    illyrian2008illyrian2008 Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    helgmorn wrote: »
    Well I stand corrected. You have hit the nail on the head!

    There is more demand for FED ships, so Cryptic make more FED Ships!

    I see where I went completely and totally wrong....OH Wait, in my post I typed....

    "Yes feds have more ships,"

    Oops looks like I knew that already!

    Cryptic of course are going to make more ships for the most popular faction, because it earns better income on time investment!

    Do we need to fund a three year study into this to confirm 101 economics?

    As a Mult-toon player across all factions, SO WHAT! I still have an awesome choice of ships across all toons!

    Yippie! Yahoo! Oh golly! Oh gee!

    And your point is that being a minority they can expect crud.

    Don't worry, you'll get to the chopping block sooner or later.
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    kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I personally think part of the problem is they have to design these ships from scratch.

    Consider how many KDF and Romulan ships we've seen on screen. Now consider how many we have in the game.
    Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
    What's my position?
    That people should know what they're screaming about!
    (paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
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    helgmornhelgmorn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Oh goodie, another one of the cheerleaders shuffling her pom-poms.

    Yes, if I sold you a piece of petrified dog dropping in a bag claiming it's great fun, you got exactly what you paid for, not my fault you don't find it fun.

    You don't have to buy anything, just grind your eyes out for a year or two, it's FREE!

    Would you like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick? It's FREE!

    Not once anywhere has Cryptic sold me Dog Poo. Every ship I have bought has been precisely described. Exactly what I knew it would be.

    I have found every ship I have purchased to be Fun! Sorry you think its dog poo, maybe you should have logged on to tribble and tested before you bought that Dog Poo Mate!

    As for Grind, can you explain what piece of content (Besides Elite Que which you can enjoy on normal or advanced) requires two years of grind?

    Really I am honestly interested in this amazing hidden locked content I have not found due to me not completing TWO YEARS OF GRIND.


    Did you poke yourself in the eye with that stick, I see you are crying.
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