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aging holograms ? wtf ?

czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
why is voy emh doctor aging ? i can take it get old and get replaced with newer model, but with older face ? lol. why ?
why just dont keep his normal face ?
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    why is voy emh doctor aging ? i can take it get old and get replaced with newer model, but with older face ? lol. why ?
    why just dont keep his normal face ?

    You must keep in mind that this is all Science Fiction...

    It must be because The Doctor must have wanted a older face... To make the older people he's working with more comfortable...
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Well it's better than Seven not ageing at all, AND ignorning Cryptic's own story with her barely having signs of being a former borg back when the game launched.
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  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    so nasicaly, they keep chicks as young as posible (where it make no sense at all - like sela, seven) while when it make sense to not get old, they do it (doctor).
    And yes, doctor should request to make his face older (and body fater:) ), but keeping his same age sound more logical, especialy if you compare it to voy crew - all mens get older, girls not.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    so nasicaly, they keep chicks as young as posible (where it make no sense at all - like sela, seven) while when it make sense to not get old, they do it (doctor).
    And yes, doctor should request to make his face older (and body fater:) ), but keeping his same age sound more logical, especialy if you compare it to voy crew - all mens get older, girls not.
    Sela is half-Romulan. As such she will live an extended life - much like Spock who was 157 when Hobus goes nova.

    B'elanna is half-Klingon. Klingons also have an extended life cycle.

    Seven, like other Borg, probably has some nanites that work on rejuvening her cells.

    The Doctor can look like whatever he wants. He's a hologram. He can look like Picardo on Monday and Riker on Tuesday if he wishes. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • judeconnorsjudeconnors Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    In a game where Server Not Responding happens daily and people get disconnected in droves...

    you're concerned about how the EMH aged?

    Priorities.
  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Data and Doc both wanted to be more than they were, and both became to be accepted just as any human would be. I think Doc wanted his age appearance to change with the years, to make him feel more human. He also designed empathy subroutines, the ability to sing opera, photography, golf, and many more subroutines that made him more and more human. The only other thing he lacked was the ability to age, but that too is easy enough to solve.

    Compare it to the same way Data's age appearance changed over the years. At Farpoint Station, his age appearance was a very metallic golden skin with black hair. In Nemesis, he had become obviously older, his skin now more a dull white, and his hair becoming more and more grey. He also had become much more wise, and much more intelligent overall, as opposed to the clueless child he was at Farpoint Station.

    They both were artificial lifeforms, but they both worked to become more than a simple computer program, and that hard work eventually paid off for both of them.
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  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Sela is half-Romulan. As such she will live an extended life - much like Spock who was 157 when Hobus goes nova.

    B'elanna is half-Klingon. Klingons also have an extended life cycle.

    Seven, like other Borg, probably has some nanites that work on rejuvening her cells.

    The Doctor can look like whatever he wants. He's a hologram. He can look like Picardo on Monday and Riker on Tuesday if he wishes. :)

    Yes, booth romulan and klingons age slower but they AGE, spok from tos look VERY different than spok from hobus supernova time (and no i dont name that ****y movie).
    Even pure klingon - worf LOOKS older in game compared to ds9 episodes. Same for tuvok. For seven it make some sense to keep her "forever young" but it conflickt with sto theme (and some degree voy episodes) in whch seven wanted to get her borg related thing removed if it posible or get them to much limited use.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    Yes, booth romulan and klingons age slower but they AGE, spok from tos look VERY different than spok from hobus supernova time (and no i dont name that ****y movie).
    Because Leonard aged over the course of the 43 years between those appearances. In a game, or in animation, you can stop time to make it fit a alien's physiology - thus Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons can age slowly. In regular movies spanning 5 decades, not so much because human actors age - which is why the new Star Trek is a redo of the original cast with younger actors. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    lindaleff wrote: »
    Data and Doc both wanted to be more than they were, and both became to be accepted just as any human would be. I think Doc wanted his age appearance to change with the years, to make him feel more human. He also designed empathy subroutines, the ability to sing opera, photography, golf, and many more subroutines that made him more and more human. The only other thing he lacked was the ability to age, but that too is easy enough to solve.

    Compare it to the same way Data's age appearance changed over the years. At Farpoint Station, his age appearance was a very metallic golden skin with black hair. In Nemesis, he had become obviously older, his skin now more a dull white, and his hair becoming more and more grey. He also had become much more wise, and much more intelligent overall, as opposed to the clueless child he was at Farpoint Station.

    They both were artificial lifeforms, but they both worked to become more than a simple computer program, and that hard work eventually paid off for both of them.
    Data actually has an aging program which alters his appearance over time. It was mentioned in one of the early episodes to explain why Spiner got older-looking as the series went on.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • gurluasgurluas Member Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Honestly the doctor doesn't really look that aged.

    His hair is still brown and such.

    He'd have grey hair if he had aged.
  • mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    This is why Brent Spiner asked for Data to be killed off. As Brent got older, it would have been harder and harder to explain why Data is getting wrinkly or his hair is falling out (and no, using the "Bicentennial Man" plot device would have been TRIBBLE).
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    This is why Brent Spiner asked for Data to be killed off. As Brent got older, it would have been harder and harder to explain why Data is getting wrinkly or his hair is falling out (and no, using the "Bicentennial Man" plot device would have been TRIBBLE).
    Bicentennial Man came out 5 years after TNG had done its last episode - so basically they stole the plot device from TNG and Data. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    bicentical man device ? tell e more about it, cant remenber anything about it, and yes, i wacthed all st series.
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    edited November 2014
    gurluas wrote: »
    Honestly the doctor doesn't really look that aged.

    His hair is still brown and such.

    He'd have grey hair if he had aged.

    He's not aged at all. Folks are just used to looking at characters with almost zero facial definition because the game launched with a less detailed art style.
  • venkouvenkou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    why is voy emh doctor aging ? i can take it get old and get replaced with newer model, but with older face ? lol. why ?
    why just dont keep his normal face ?

    Link: Data with gray hair.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm upset the EMH never became sexual aroused in my body
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Because Leonard aged over the course of the 43 years between those appearances. In a game, or in animation, you can stop time to make it fit a alien's physiology - thus Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons can age slowly. In regular movies spanning 5 decades, not so much because human actors age - which is why the new Star Trek is a redo of the original cast with younger actors. :)
    Also.... some of the TOS cast are dead.

    It was cool seeing pics of the two people to play Uhura talking about the role though.
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  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Because Leonard aged over the course of the 43 years between those appearances. In a game, or in animation, you can stop time to make it fit a alien's physiology - thus Vulcans, Romulans, and Klingons can age slowly. In regular movies spanning 5 decades, not so much because human actors age - which is why the new Star Trek is a redo of the original cast with younger actors. :)

    I dont argue with real actors aging :) and yes, i know that in compiter time is basicaly frozen. But from where you god ide how old/young there alien races look at which ages ? from movies of course. And you DID have here displayed romulans at different ages, from 20s, up to 60s or even 120s. So you can take from here, and i can say that NONE of these 60+ aliens looked at 20s human (yeah t pol at 72? looked like 30s human, but not 20s).
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    I dont argue with real actors aging :) and yes, i know that in compiter time is basicaly frozen. But from where you god ide how old/young there alien races look at which ages ? from movies of course. And you DID have here displayed romulans at different ages, from 20s, up to 60s or even 120s. So you can take from here, and i can say that NONE of these 60+ aliens looked at 20s human (yeah t pol at 72? looked like 30s human, but not 20s).
    Considering that Jolene Blalock was 26 when she started playing T'Pol it is sad that you think she looked like she was in her 30s. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    well, 26 was realy not my quess :), and dont get it wrong, i know womenst which are 40s and look 30s and are more sexy than many 20s :).
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    well, 26 was realy not my quess :), and dont get it wrong, i know womenst which are 40s and look 30s and are more sexy than many 20s :).
    Well, I can understand that. But my point still stands. They picked a young woman to play a near-middle-aged Vulcan. Mark Leonard was only 7 years older then Nimoy, but he played Spock's father. Even in TOS they tried to make some allowances; but no one at the time expected the series to last this long or that the actors would get 50 years older and still be playing their characters. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Nice that you mentioned scene with spock father - well, he looked as his father (for longvity vulcan) not as his older brother .
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